General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

A Bike path across USA

Old 08-21-05, 10:09 PM
  #1  
will dehne
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: rockford, il
Posts: 2,646

Bikes: Trek 7700, C'dale R2000

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
A Bike path across USA

Please forgive my ignorance if this came up before. I searched but could not find it.

It seems to me that it would be a worthwhile thing to promote a car free bike path across the USA.
Imagine what tourist attraction that would be. Imagine the businesses who could cater to that. Seems to me that a good start has been made in Wisconsin. They almost have one across Wisconsin trail.

I come from Germany which has many very long distance bike trails. For instance there is one to Amsterdam along the Rhine. There is another famous one along the Danube.

We could have one across the USA which could be a magnet for all kinds of activity.
Is this not something this forum could promote?
will dehne is offline  
Old 08-22-05, 04:43 AM
  #2  
Lion Steve
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Springfield, Ohio
Posts: 297

Bikes: '06 Raleigh Cadent road bike,'05 Trek 7200 hybrid,' 83 Schwinn Le Tour SS conversion

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
There is one across Ohio that is very beautiful.

The Ohio to Erie Trail begins in Cincinnati at the Ohio River and ends in Cleveland at Lake Erie.

http://www.ohiotoerietrail.org/OnTheTrail/default.htm


Many sections of the Ohio to Erie Trail are open and in daily use. Of the 453-mile length of the Ohio to Erie Trail, 262 miles are completed and open for public enjoyment, another 54 miles are either under construction or in engineering design, and an additional 137 miles are awaiting final planning, acquisition, and funding.

Last edited by Lion Steve; 08-22-05 at 04:52 AM.
Lion Steve is offline  
Old 08-22-05, 06:08 AM
  #3  
cydewaze
Emondafied
 
cydewaze's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Maryland
Posts: 4,939

Bikes: See sig

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 63 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Interesting idea, although I'd imagine there'd be places where there wouldn't be much in the way of water or food stops, like out west near Nevada where you get long stretches of desert. Perhaps if you ran it along close to a large road (like I-70 or I-80) so you could take advantage of gas stations servicing that, but still, I've seen stretches of road that say, "Next Stop: 60mi" and that's a log way to go if you run out of food or water, or have a mechanical.
__________________

my bike page - my journal
Current Stable: Trek Emonda SL - Trek Top Fuel 8 - Scattante XRL - Jamis Dakar Expert - Trek 9700 - AlpineStars Al Mega
cydewaze is offline  
Old 08-22-05, 07:39 AM
  #4  
supcom
You need a new bike
 
supcom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 5,433
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
http://www.discoverytrail.org/

It's more promise than reality, but someone's working on it.
supcom is offline  
Old 08-22-05, 05:41 PM
  #5  
Machka 
In Real Life
 
Machka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Down under down under
Posts: 51,489

Bikes: Lots

Mentioned: 133 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2917 Post(s)
Liked 100 Times in 71 Posts
There's one across Canada: http://www.tctrail.ca/

It's not in the greatest condition all the way across. I wouldn't have ridden the section nearest to me in Winnipeg with a road bicycle. But at least it is there, and they are working to improve it.
Machka is offline  
Old 08-22-05, 06:50 PM
  #6  
will dehne
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: rockford, il
Posts: 2,646

Bikes: Trek 7700, C'dale R2000

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thank you all for above leads and comments.
I am nearing retirement and frankly I am looking for a pet project. This may be such a one.
Wonder if Lance needs another cause in addition to his interest in cancer? Imagine a Tour the Lance US bike path. I wonder.......
will dehne is offline  
Old 08-22-05, 06:58 PM
  #7  
Guest
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Mentioned: Post(s)
Tagged: Thread(s)
Quoted: Post(s)
The country is too big. I can't see a path that a lot of cyclists could take. Where would it be located? Would I have to go to the northern part of the US to ride across the USA, or would it start in Florida and work its way across the bottom half?

I'd be cool with a network of interconnected trails across the USA, but one trail wouldn't be realistic.

Koffee
 
Old 08-22-05, 07:04 PM
  #8  
Longhorn
Burnt Orange Blood
 
Longhorn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Dripping Springs, Texas
Posts: 825

Bikes: Trek 7200, Lashout Electric Bike, Raleigh Talon

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by koffee brown
The country is too big. I can't see a path that a lot of cyclists could take. Where would it be located? Would I have to go to the northern part of the US to ride across the USA, or would it start in Florida and work its way across the bottom half?

I'd be cool with a network of interconnected trails across the USA, but one trail wouldn't be realistic.

Koffee
According to the above link, it looks like it starts in your backyard!
Longhorn is offline  
Old 08-22-05, 07:16 PM
  #9  
Urban Shooter
Senior Member
 
Urban Shooter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Beaverton, Oregon
Posts: 608

Bikes: 2006 Gary Fisher Opie, 1980's Fuji Grand SE

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by koffee brown
The country is too big. I can't see a path that a lot of cyclists could take. Where would it be located? Would I have to go to the northern part of the US to ride across the USA, or would it start in Florida and work its way across the bottom half?

I'd be cool with a network of interconnected trails across the USA, but one trail wouldn't be realistic.

Koffee

So true, that is one of the drawbacks to being a huge, powerful, world dominating country like the USA. Some of these other tiny, wimpy countries can manage a bike path across but not the world's only super-power.
Urban Shooter is offline  
Old 08-22-05, 07:19 PM
  #10  
LordOpie
Senior Member
 
LordOpie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Denver
Posts: 3,698

Bikes: 2006 custom Walt Works roadie, 2003 Fuji Finest (road), 2002 Giant Iguana (mtb), 1986 BMW K75 (motor)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Colorado is working on their own to kinda parallel I-70. Many of the individual cities are focusing on their own section and arguably the most difficult place to build a path already has one... Glenwood Springs. They figured they might as well build it when the highway was upgraded. Smart people.

But really, who wants to bike through Kansas
LordOpie is offline  
Old 08-22-05, 07:29 PM
  #11  
will dehne
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: rockford, il
Posts: 2,646

Bikes: Trek 7700, C'dale R2000

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by koffee brown
The country is too big. I can't see a path that a lot of cyclists could take. Where would it be located? Would I have to go to the northern part of the US to ride across the USA, or would it start in Florida and work its way across the bottom half?

I'd be cool with a network of interconnected trails across the USA, but one trail wouldn't be realistic.

Koffee
Koffee:
I hear your argument. I see it as an immigrant who is rather enthusiastic about the USA. I have friends in places such as Germany. They have up to six weeks vacation and they do bike in the USA. My Boss biked down Highway #1 on the West coast. The traffic was the big negative.
There are a number of people looking for a challenge. But getting side swiped by a SUV is not fun. You know that many streets are in bad shape as pavement goes. Seldom is there a nice bike lane. A lone single biker is at risk, especially at dusk. Forget it at night.

If we had a bike path to see much of the USA without taking your life in your hands, that would be great. Do you know the bike fatality in the USA? I do not.
Today's lunch conversation was about an almost catastrophic accident in Wisconsin around Mount Horeb. A car nearly plowed into a large group of bikers. Of course there was no bike lane. The bikers were not without fault, they went through a stop sign.
A bike path would get more individuals traveling longer distance. I think that that would be a good thing. You could do all or part of the way.

Think of the Appalachian HIKING path. 2100 miles hiking. It is a busy path. Too busy.
will dehne is offline  
Old 08-22-05, 07:54 PM
  #12  
Machka 
In Real Life
 
Machka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Down under down under
Posts: 51,489

Bikes: Lots

Mentioned: 133 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2917 Post(s)
Liked 100 Times in 71 Posts
Originally Posted by koffee brown
The country is too big. I can't see a path that a lot of cyclists could take. Where would it be located? Would I have to go to the northern part of the US to ride across the USA, or would it start in Florida and work its way across the bottom half?

I'd be cool with a network of interconnected trails across the USA, but one trail wouldn't be realistic.

Koffee
Last time I checked Canada is bigger than the USA ... but we've got a trail across our country.

Admittedly most of our population is in the "southern tier" but from what I've seen, when it comes to touring in the USA, most people seem to talk about the northern tier, a middle tier, and a southern tier. So ... why not start a trail in the middle tier and build on that? Isn't the middle tier roughly the route the RAAM riders go?
Machka is offline  
Old 08-22-05, 09:08 PM
  #13  
Guest
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Mentioned: Post(s)
Tagged: Thread(s)
Quoted: Post(s)
I'm not saying we shouldn't have one. I just think we shouldn't have ONE. One would definitely be limiting.

I like how they have it in Switzerland- a whole network of bike paths that can get you anywhere. If we had a network... even 3 or 4 major paths that give alternatives for travel, I'd be all good. Even if it started in my neck of the woods, if it didn't go to places I wanted to go, that would screw me over. I just want a greater network, that's all. One path is like giving a hungry dog a bone, but then covering it with bleach before you hand it to him. Bleah.

Koffee
 
Old 08-22-05, 09:30 PM
  #14  
roadfix
hello
 
roadfix's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 18,601
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 150 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts
If each and every State provided their own east/west, north/south trails, they'll all interconnect with one another someday, providing an uninterrupted journey across the continent.
roadfix is offline  
Old 08-22-05, 10:06 PM
  #15  
Guest
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Mentioned: Post(s)
Tagged: Thread(s)
Quoted: Post(s)
That's more like what I'm talking about. I network of interconnected bike paths and lanes that get you all the way across the US.

Koffee
 
Old 08-22-05, 11:13 PM
  #16  
Machka 
In Real Life
 
Machka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Down under down under
Posts: 51,489

Bikes: Lots

Mentioned: 133 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2917 Post(s)
Liked 100 Times in 71 Posts
Originally Posted by The Fixer
If each and every State provided their own east/west, north/south trails, they'll all interconnect with one another someday, providing an uninterrupted journey across the continent.

That's basically what they've done across Canada. They've taken cycling routes through cities, combined them with abandonned railway tracks which have been filled in (gravelled, or in some cases paved), and a few quiet roads, I think.

http://www.tctrail.ca/index.php?section_id=8&lang=en
"The Trans Canada Trail is a non-profit, registered charity organization, whose primary purpose is to raise funds to build a recreational trail that will wind its way through every province and territory in Canada, linking hundreds of communities along its route. The target date for completion of the main trunk of the Trans Canada Trail is the fall of 2010.

The Trans Canada Trail was created in 1992 and publicly launched in the summer of 1994. It was conceived by the Canada 125 management as a legacy project. Canada 125 was an organization created to celebrate Canada’s 125th year of confederation in 1992. Individual Canadians are invited to help build the Trail by “symbolically” purchasing metres. A donation of $50.00 builds a metre of Trail and the donor’s name (or the name of anyone they designate) is permanently inscribed in a Trail Pavilion along the route of the Trail.

TRAIL ROUTE:

The Trail makes its way through every province and territory. Given the geography of Canada, it is not a straight line but one that dips and curves to include as much of the population as possible. A water route is being used in the Northwest Territories and part of Northern Alberta."


http://www.tctrail.ca/index.php?sect...c3e8810f1ce878
"Building the longest recreational trail in the world is no easy task. The Trans Canada Trail will be a confederation of existing trails linked together by new construction to forge one contiguous Trail that winds its way through every province and territory."
Machka is offline  
Old 08-23-05, 07:01 AM
  #17  
DieselDan
Senior Member
 
DieselDan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Beaufort, South Carolina, USA and surrounding islands.
Posts: 8,522

Bikes: Cannondale R500, Motobecane Messenger

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
The old rail lines in the US belong to private companies, and some have clauses to turn the property over to the previous landowners. We are having that problem trying to build a railtrail here.

However, I like the idea of a bike path along cross country interstate highways.
DieselDan is offline  
Old 08-23-05, 08:02 AM
  #18  
LordOpie
Senior Member
 
LordOpie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Denver
Posts: 3,698

Bikes: 2006 custom Walt Works roadie, 2003 Fuji Finest (road), 2002 Giant Iguana (mtb), 1986 BMW K75 (motor)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by DieselDan
However, I like the idea of a bike path along cross country interstate highways.
Plus, there are services already established. The furthest I've ever driven between services was the desert of Utah and that was only like 50-60 miles? (If you're riding across the country, 60 road miles shouldn't be an issue.)
LordOpie is offline  
Old 08-23-05, 08:03 AM
  #19  
Gravestone
Unmarked
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Not across the country, but along the whole east coast, is the planned East Coast Greenway.

http://www.greenway.org/

According to the website, it's 20% complete. We have a couple sections here in Maine that are finished, and a quick ride along them will make anyone wish for more and more.
Gravestone is offline  
Old 08-23-05, 08:07 AM
  #20  
KingTermite 
On my TARDIScycle!
 
KingTermite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Eastside Seattlite Termite Mound
Posts: 3,925

Bikes: Trek 520, Trek Navigator 300, Peugeot Versailles PE10DE

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
It would be great....but I don't see this being any kind of reality anytime soon.

There are two huge limiting factors:
1. This country is too big, physically. It's just a HUGE undertaking.
2. Cycling, unfortunately, is not popular enough here like it is in Europe and the rest of the world. There wouldn't be enough support and not enough businesses to cater to it. You would end up with probably HUGE stretches void of any kind of business or people - you get into trouble you are on your own. Might even end up with muggers and such casing the trail for solo cyclist.
__________________
Originally Posted by coffeecake View Post
- it's pretty well established that Hitler was an *******.
KingTermite is offline  
Old 08-23-05, 08:15 AM
  #21  
will dehne
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: rockford, il
Posts: 2,646

Bikes: Trek 7700, C'dale R2000

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Above posts give me ideas. Thanks. Perhaps we can get some busybodies interested as they do in Canada. I can think of lesser things than promoting this idea. Many of my friends are sort of lost what to do with themselves.
I found biking about 10 to 15 years ago. It is the only sustained activity I can do for 10 hours per day with no harm to my joints. But I had two bad accidents. That is what motivates me. That is the message I am trying to get around.
Biking is good for many if not most, but we must make it reasonably safe. Dealing with high speed cars a few feet or inches away from you, is scary.
Is this not a good cause?
will dehne is offline  
Old 08-23-05, 08:24 AM
  #22  
Erick L
Lentement mais sûrement
 
Erick L's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Montréal
Posts: 2,241
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 72 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
The Trans-Canada trail is not a bike path. In many places, it's a hiking trail. I believe there's a trans-USA hiking trail but the north-south hiking trails are more popular. There's a almost-finished trans-province bike route here called the "route verte" (green route). It uses rail-trails, bike paths, shoulder/bike lane and designated low-traffic roads. It's very popular.

Just connecting existing bike route/trail is a big step.

Edit: Route Verte website. It passes in front of my house.
Erick L is offline  
Old 08-23-05, 08:31 AM
  #23  
Litespeed
Senior Moment
 
Litespeed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Lakeside California
Posts: 952

Bikes: Litespeed Blueridge

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
We are having trouble just getting a bike path put in from where I live in Lakeside (near the river) down to Ocean Beach (the ocean), about 25 miles total. One of the parks in between is holding everything up even though there is already a bike path through part of the park. Just this little project like this will probably takes years to settle.
Litespeed is offline  
Old 08-23-05, 09:25 AM
  #24  
FatguyRacer
Mmmmm Donuts!
 
FatguyRacer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Crownsville, MD
Posts: 2,069

Bikes: 1998 IF Crown Jewel

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
http://www.greenway.org/

20% down, 80% to go! I wonder if it will be done in my lifetime.
__________________
John

'09 Cannondale CAAD9 - Team Latitude/ABRT Special.
'04 Lemond Victorie Ti
'98 IF Crown Jewel (dead)
'92 Trek2100 (TT)
'50 something Gino Bartali (fixer)
'02 Ducati ST4s (Moto-Ref mount)

My Blog
FatguyRacer is offline  
Old 08-23-05, 09:46 AM
  #25  
Guest
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Mentioned: Post(s)
Tagged: Thread(s)
Quoted: Post(s)
Originally Posted by KingTermite
It would be great....but I don't see this being any kind of reality anytime soon.

There are two huge limiting factors:
1. This country is too big, physically. It's just a HUGE undertaking.
2. Cycling, unfortunately, is not popular enough here like it is in Europe and the rest of the world. There wouldn't be enough support and not enough businesses to cater to it. You would end up with probably HUGE stretches void of any kind of business or people - you get into trouble you are on your own. Might even end up with muggers and such casing the trail for solo cyclist.
As far as point 3, they'd have to put in those emergency phones along the route and markers along the length of the trail. In the event of an emergency, you'd get to the nearest phone and that phone would be connected to the nearest police department. Since they are phones for emergencies, the police should have a procedure for responding to calls in the event someone gets to a phone but cannot speak or is disoriented.

We'd have problems additionally with trail maintenance, cleaning, bathroom installations, etc. That would need to be worked out.

Koffee
 

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.