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Old 09-21-05, 05:20 AM
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That's good to know. What I don't like about HAC 5 is it's a watch. I don't want to wear 2 watches.

I found the .de site had more current info, you just have to struggle thru rough translations of the german. I wonder if babblefish will translate pdf files.
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Cranks,

I saw the software in the store today so I bought it - the DVD version so one disk holds all the normal data. I've just been playing around with it, trying to figure out altitudes. With Google Earth, I can actually see landmarks as a guide for where to put my cursor to get the right altitude - the problem is, many of the readings are just wrong. I mean, I can be moving my cursor along a road where I know it is going downhill, but the elevation keeps increasing! I'm guessing things just aren't lined up right.

Anyway, this software seems to not have that problem, though I don't have satelite photos of buildings, etc, to guide me. I have to slowly move the cursor along the area of a road where I know the high point or low point is and follow the readout.

I'm don't know how accurate it is. For example, if you have a steep slope, you see those elevation lines as usual, but the road may be cut into the side of the mountain - so who knows whether or not the altitude is actually correct in those cases. After all, if the road is cut into the mountain side 30 feet, that may cut down the elevation of that specific spot by quite a bit. But I do think this is giving me a pretty good estimate.

Still trying to figure out how to do a route. It does give specific locations, but it doesn't seem to give me the precise location I want in every case. For example, instead of accepting my address, I had to accept a location in a range of addresses. For finding that one location, it narrowed it down fairly well. But for routing, I didn't seem to have as good a list of choices.

Ideally there would be a way where I could just click on a spot on the map, continuing to click each key location until I reach the finish. If this is possible, I haven't found it yet.

Thanks for the suggestion on this software though. I like it.
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Old 09-22-05, 05:53 PM
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If you right mouse on a spot, you should get a pop-up menu that lets you set start, via, and end. Then the software will calculate a route for you. You might need to modify the route - you can do that by going to the Route Tab and clicking on the Advanced button. Then it shows the route, you can select an item, and insert a via before it by choosing insert, or add a via after it by choosing add. It takes a while to get used to it, but it's generally pretty good. The other thing that took me a while was to realize that I can add trails as routes by using the draw tools.
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Old 09-22-05, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Cranks
If you right mouse on a spot, you should get a pop-up menu that lets you set start, via, and end. Then the software will calculate a route for you. You might need to modify the route - you can do that by going to the Route Tab and clicking on the Advanced button. Then it shows the route, you can select an item, and insert a via before it by choosing insert, or add a via after it by choosing add. It takes a while to get used to it, but it's generally pretty good. The other thing that took me a while was to realize that I can add trails as routes by using the draw tools.
I'm gradually getting things to work - have most of the hills figured out. The profile option makes this fairly easy - I just click a segment and if it doesn't highlight enough, I hold down the shift key and click a little further on. Then I move my cursor over the graph to the highest point - making sure the cursor on the map is where I expect it to be (just to double check), then look over on the section on the side of the map that gives the exact number of feet in elevation. I do the same to find the low points of a hill.

Occasionally I'm not so sure about the accuracy, but I would say it has probably been within 10 feet - at least the places I can be pretty sure of.

But I did run into a problem making a route - I have this one spot with roads and ramps to roads going various directions and I can't get the route to continue the way it should - at that spot, the highlighted section goes off someplace totally out of line rather than continuing on the road I'm using. I think it has something to do with one-way roads for the ramps. It must think it can't go straight because of oncoming traffic - but the one-way section actually begins a little further on. I guess, if I can't figure this out, I'll have to end the route at one spot and, to continue, I'll have to create a new route.

But my main interest now is to find out what the formula is for calculating the percent grade of a hill so I can make use of all this data.

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i think most small GPSs give you altitude info? the garmin etrex is a reasonable price
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The Polar s725 has an real time altimeter function. It also records total ascent for a ride too.
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Maps...tis what I use

Don't get me wrong, I love gadgets, but an Altimeter?
TOPO Map does just fine for me.
Course I could not live with out my 10 year old CatEye Astrale
Gotta have that Cadence feature!

Now the years are creepin up, I might need one with a BIGGER READOUT!
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Originally Posted by TheRCF
But my main interest now is to find out what the formula is for calculating the percent grade of a hill so I can make use of all this data.

Bob
When you run the profile, on the lower right you see statistics like latitude, longtitude, etc. If you press the double arrow on the right >> you get a popup with a list of items such as elevation gain, climbing elevation, grade, and average grade. Choose one and that statistic now shows that value. It's pretty slick.
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Originally Posted by FatguyRacer
The Polar s725 has an real time altimeter function. It also records total ascent for a ride too.
That's pretty sweet.
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Old 09-23-05, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Cranks
When you run the profile, on the lower right you see statistics like latitude, longtitude, etc. If you press the double arrow on the right >> you get a popup with a list of items such as elevation gain, climbing elevation, grade, and average grade. Choose one and that statistic now shows that value. It's pretty slick.
Pretty cool! It is amazing all the little things you find along the way!
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