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Old 09-20-05, 06:08 PM
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In my opinion, one reason to add to the myriad so far is that many bicyclists I've met are scary. They're so die-hard, you wonder what's wrong with them. Not so much that they're snobs but that they appear psycho. A non-cyclist wouldn't want to deal with that bicyclist that freaks out about a walker being on a bike path or the one that says "You're not wearing the right clothes to bike."

Yeah, go ahead and flame me but I've seen MANY people on here that fit this.
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Old 09-20-05, 06:22 PM
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Laziness.

People are lazy. Everyone seems to want maximum return for minimum effort, in terms of personal transport that means driving a car/SUV.
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Originally Posted by acorn54
i would like to hear theories on why so few people find bicycle riding a pleasure. i'm surprised by the scarcity of bike riders in my suburban neighborhood. one can ride the streets with little fear of cars, but still very few people around here ride ( long island)
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Maybe they're into something else instead.........like running, golfing, skiing, bowling ( ), boating, fishing, etc.....
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Old 09-20-05, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by FXjohn
A lot of people can never get comfortable on a bike seat and give up
They've never tried a recumbent bike. Nothing but pleasure. But you have to give up your delusions of being Lance Armstrong.
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Originally Posted by Cyclaholic
Laziness.

People are lazy. Everyone seems to want maximum return for minimum effort, in terms of personal transport that means driving a car/SUV.
Of course, one person's "laziness" is another person's "efficiency." I love biking, but I can easily understand why people don't get into pushing their feet around in circles for hours, to get somewhere they could reach far more quickly in a car (with far less chance of dying or becoming paralyzed).
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Old 09-20-05, 08:52 PM
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What is your definition of pleasure? Pleasure, leisure, or play can be just riding around the block to training and racing. If no one finds pleasure in biking, how can the U.S. support so many brands of bicycles? I bet if you look closer you will find bikers in your area. Check a LBS to see when and where people ride. An even better idea would be to get on a bicycle, ride around town, and find pleasure in looking for other bikers.
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Old 09-20-05, 09:09 PM
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I know a LOT of people who have a bias against exercising. I think a lot of folks get traumatized by horrible Physical Education classes in school, and get to thinking that anything that involves effort and sweat is going to just plain be awful.

Also, some people are grossed out by getting sweaty. I am a commuter, so I come to work just dripping in the summertime. I clean up in the Ladies Room as much as I can, but I have a couple of co-workers who think I'm pretty nasty because I come to work sweaty and don't have a shower. I wear deodorant and I change my clothes and do all the nice things commuters do so as not to be offensive to everyone around them all day, but they still view having dried salt on your body as being unclean.

And I know that many people are terrified by traffic. My mom thinks I'm dicing with death on a daily basis. So do a lot of my co-workers. I was trying to teach a neighbor lady how to ride on the streets earlier this summer, but she completely freaked out and froze up whenever there was a car either coming from a side street or passing us. She about had a wreck any time we were passed because she would lock up her brakes and panic. She ended up giving up riding because she felt that the exercise and transportation aspects of it were not going to outweigh the job it was doing on her nerves.

A lot of people are really, really afraid of wrecking or getting hurt, too. I wreck pretty often because I'm a big ol' klutz, and because I often push things a bit further than I should, so I'm often sporting a little roadrash. This isn't great publicity for our sport, because people look at my beleagured epidermis and think, "god that looks painful." They don't realize that most people keep the rubber side down a lot more than I do. I think probably a cautious and sensible cyclist wrecks very rarely, but a lot of people remember the dramatic spills they took as kids, or the hideous crash their brother-in-law had on his mountain-biking vacation three years ago, and think the second they're out there on two wheels, they're going to be going ass-over-teakettle, too.
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Old 09-20-05, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by The Fixer
Maybe they're into something else instead.........like running, golfing, skiing, bowling ( ), boating, fishing, etc.....
Several people I know much prefer the purity of serious walks and hikes--they find the love of bikes (and 'tinkering' as my gf puts it) to be technophilia analogous to car-culture.
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Old 09-21-05, 01:06 AM
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Time constraint, kids, not into the time and effort required, did not have time to develop a relationship with the bicycle as a kid, do not like to exercise, lazy, too busy, and so on. So for all of you that have found the joy in riding, ride on.

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Yea I dont get why people freak out about taking a shower after sweating. There is a reason why we have deodorant/perfume and stuff.

I rather have a gf that sweats than one that is fat and lazy...IMHO
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People hate to sweat. When you start out biking, your ass is going to hurt, and it takes some times to toughen up. Your pants leg can get caught in the chain. There's a fear of traffic. And people are so busy these days, frankly it's hard to fit biking in.
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Old 09-21-05, 02:10 AM
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"People hate to sweat."

Now that's an understatement. I know all these chics that get all dolled up with hair just right, make-up, perfume, some jewelry, nice tight-fitting clothes... to go to the GYM!!! Then they sit on the exercise bikes and read magazines while spinning their legs at about 10rpms. But NO.... if they just barely start to sweat, they'll have to stop!
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Old 09-21-05, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ComPH
Do you really wonder why not too many want to join this type of "friendly" attitude? Not everyone who drives car is a "fat ass", and too many serious bicyclists are condescending snobs, unwelcoming to beginners!
That was a joke. I am one of those "fat a$$es"(In my own eyes)...... So I'm no "condescending snob" by any stretch of the imagination.

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Originally Posted by ovoleg
... you do have to have some common sense and willpower
Unfortunately, that rules out an awful lot of people in this country.
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People that just want exercise find joining a health club or other actvities take less time. People that want the mental getaway do running because it takes less time again and it's cheaper. Cycling involves a larger financial commitment. Many worry about the dangers of cycling as well. If you're in it for fitness and health, getting smacked by a car is counter-priductive.
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I think the real reason is that a lot of people don't like to be outside. Outside is uncomfortable, and we Americans place a very high value on comfort.

We live in climate controlled homes, work in climate controlled offices. Our cars have dual climate control systems. It's more comfortable, more convenient.Why even put in windows that open or go up and down anymore? Why?

We don't have to even leave our houses. We can work from home, play at home, worship at home, order food, movies, games, talk to friends, and have sex (so I'm told), over the internet.

When your outside you're exposed to nasty things like wind, and sunlight, and dust and dirt and bugs, and germs (quick, get out your hand sanitizer). Or snow and rain... what's that stuff called? Oh, right. Weather.

And Nature? What for? I've got all the nature I can stand on TV. If I can't mow it or spread weed killer/fertilizer on it, I'm not interested.

Cycling? No thanks. I'll sit in a gym... or at home in my home gym... and pedal a machine that imitates a bike in every way except that IT DOESN'T FRIGGIN' GO ANYWHERE 'cause I think the treadmill is too... uh... 'high impact.' I'll sit and listen to my ipod, 'exercise', and watch TV.

I've seen people in the gym riding a stationary bike eating potato chips! You can't friggin' do that!

Even camping... I see more people with pop-up trailers and RVs than tents. Sure... I love 'roughing it' as long as I can bring my kitchen, bathroom, and living room with me.

The reason more people don't bike is that biking happens outside. And there are fewer and fewer people left who love the outdoors.

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Originally Posted by KristenGilbert
In my opinion, one reason to add to the myriad so far is that many bicyclists I've met are scary. They're so die-hard, you wonder what's wrong with them. Not so much that they're snobs but that they appear psycho.
I agree. Especially the hardcore roadies, some of them are so intense that it's scary! I think riding 200+ miles per week for extended periods of time can make some people a little insane.
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Originally Posted by acorn54
i would like to hear theories on why so few people find bicycle riding a pleasure. i'm surprised by the scarcity of bike riders in my suburban neighborhood. one can ride the streets with little fear of cars, but still very few people around here ride ( long island)
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When you said Long Island, that's all I needed to here.

For those on this forum who don't know Long Island, it's a surberb of New York City with loads of fast cars and trucks. The entire infrastructure of Long Island is auto based making it quite unpleasant for the cyclist. I've ridden there several times and once you get beyond a certain point, you have ride the highways with little or no shoulder.
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Old 09-21-05, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ovoleg
Alot of people talk crap about lycra or as they call it, "spandex", but they wouldn't have the balls to wear it themselves. People like to trash something that they cannot do.
True story.

I don't consider myself a great looking guy but that Lycra really turns heads! (woman and men) Don't wear it if you can't stand having good looking women/men stare at you! ;-)
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I want to add another to the list. Fear of Poverty.

Too many people don't want to look broke and the bicycle will do exactly that unless it's an expensive model. In the inner city, the bicycle is considered the poor mans motorcar and it's an image most want to avoid at all costs.
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Originally Posted by Dahon.Steve
I want to add another to the list. Fear of Poverty.

Too many people don't want to look broke and the bicycle will do exactly that unless it's an expensive model. In the inner city, the bicycle is considered the poor mans motorcar and it's an image most want to avoid at all costs.

Its like some of the people I know, ( I won't mention who ). They live in the worst apartment, usually 2 families but they all drive BMW's and Mercedes. Its ridiculous. Also, they are probably salvaged because they have a thousand problems. I guess its the image behind it, sad kinda.

Too many people worry about what others think and not enough about how it benefits them.

I'll wear my lycra with pride
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Originally Posted by ComPH
Do you really wonder why not too many want to join this type of "friendly" attitude? Not everyone who drives car is a "fat ass", and too many serious bicyclists are condescending snobs, unwelcoming to beginners!
I have noticed this first hand...waaaaaay too many times. Attitudes like this are unfortunate. If I had run into many of these before I bought my bike, I may never have picked the lifestyle up again. Shame on poeple who wuold make such comments. The reason I ride is not to be such a fat ass...and I used to be one. I am 6'1" 207lbs (down from 296lbs) and don't drive. Negativism towards others is a common occurence in cycling and I, for one, do not like it.

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Originally Posted by rjkresse
I think the real reason is that a lot of people don't like to be outside. Outside is uncomfortable, and we Americans place a very high value on comfort.

We live in climate controlled homes, work in climate controlled offices. Our cars have dual climate control systems. It's more comfortable, more convenient.Why even put in windows that open or go up and down anymore? Why?

We don't have to even leave our houses. We can work from home, play at home, worship at home, order food, movies, games, talk to friends, and have sex (so I'm told), over the internet.

When your outside you're exposed to nasty things like wind, and sunlight, and dust and dirt and bugs, and germs (quick, get out your hand sanitizer). Or snow and rain... what's that stuff called? Oh, right. Weather.

And Nature? What for? I've got all the nature I can stand on TV. If I can't mow it or spread weed killer/fertilizer on it, I'm not interested.

Cycling? No thanks. I'll sit in a gym... or at home in my home gym... and pedal a machine that imitates a bike in every way except that IT DOESN'T FRIGGIN' GO ANYWHERE 'cause I think the treadmill is too... uh... 'high impact.' I'll sit and listen to my ipod, 'exercise', and watch TV.

I've seen people in the gym riding a stationary bike eating potato chips! You can't friggin' do that!

Even camping... I see more people with pop-up trailers and RVs than tents. Sure... I love 'roughing it' as long as I can bring my kitchen, bathroom, and living room with me.

The reason more people don't bike is that biking happens outside. And there are fewer and fewer people left who love the outdoors.

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I agree.

I can't stand it when I see people riding stationary bikes when they could just as easily ride a real bike.

I love the outdoors, but most people just want to sit there and look at their grass and mulch, instead of trees and nature.
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Originally Posted by bike756
I agree.

I can't stand it when I see people riding stationary bikes when they could just as easily ride a real bike.

I love the outdoors, but most people just want to sit there and look at their grass and mulch, instead of trees and nature.
20 minutes on the trainer and I want to quit, its boring and repetitive.

I can do 3-4 hours on a real bike without feeling bored. I enjoy outdoor riding but some people do not have that opportunity through the week
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Originally Posted by ovoleg
I can do 3-4 hours on a real bike without feeling bored. I enjoy outdoor riding but some people do not have that opportunity through the week
I agree. After biking to work every day for a year and a half, buying a road bike and becoming a quasi-serious, but only mildly frightening roadie, I can barely sit in the car for 20 minutes. And with the air conditioning on... forget it. I like fresh air.

How'd that old song go?

Give me land, lots of land 'neath the starry skies above.
Don't fence me in.
Let me ride through the wide open country that I love.
Don't fence me in.

Let me be by myself in the evening breeze.
Listen to the murmur of the cottonwood trees
Send me off forever, but I ask you please
Don't fence me in.

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