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50 Year Old Instructor Dropped Dead Near End of A Spinning Class He Was Leading Tues

Old 10-27-05, 08:52 PM
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50 Year Old Instructor Dropped Dead Near End of A Spinning Class He Was Leading Tues

Good news is that he hit the deck already dead (full cardiac arrest) and because there were 3 nurses in the class (one of them being his wife) they started CPR on him immediately, someone ran for a lifeguard in the pool with a defibrilator and after 5 minutes of keeping him alive with CPR and chest compressions, they shocked his heart back to life.

Here is a link in today's paper on it:

https://www.ottawasun.com/News/Ottawa...80318-sun.html

I went to visit him today in the ICU and his wife and another person who was at the class said the newspaper story got it wrong. While the lifeguard adminstered the defibrilator, it was the class members who kept him alive with the CPR and the compressions. The paramedics said that without it the defib would not have done anything.

The instructor looks great (we were joking and laughing the whole time today) he's going for an angiogram tomorrow and may get angioplasty (baloon out the clot/plaque) and /or a stent or possibly even a bypass.

He says btw that there is nothing on the other side, nada.

His family has a real lousy history of heart problems young, he had been taking statins to lower high cholesterol since 1992, his BP was boderline high and they were considering starting him on meds for it (before all this happened), he was scheduled for a stress test next week. 6ft 210lbs in great shape.

4,000kms on the road bike this summer (short season in Ottawa) and teaching 3 or 4 spinning classes a week (my fav instructor btw). They gave him a cardiac diet plan when I was in the room with him today and he looks at it, hands it to his wife and they both say thats what they eat already, not many changes needed on that end.

He arrested in an instant and hit the deck while still clipped onto the bike with his look shoes and pedals.

He hit his head under the ear on a table and needed 6 stitches but did not hit his head too badly. One of his legs did not release off the pedal when he fell and somehow that resulted in a really nasty bruise in his calf. He is in almost no chest pain from the heart but needs big doses of pain meds for his calf. Plus they have him on blood thinners which is not helping.

You never know what is around the corner in this life.

Just glad he's still here.
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Old 10-27-05, 08:54 PM
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Life is, indeed, finite, and we NEVER know when our time is up... Live like today was your last!
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Old 10-27-05, 09:14 PM
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I'm happy for this fella that all the right peple were in the right place at the right time. I wish him many more years of life in this marvelous world we enjoy.

But I gotta say this is too common a story in this day and age. We have many preventative medical diagnostic procedures for determining the condition of our bodies to help us either anticipate or prevent the above kinds of occurences. Just as an example, now anyone can go get a CAT scan of their cardiovascular system, lungs, and vital organs to determine what level of calcification exists in the arteries, if there are any spots or tumors in the lungs, and if there are any tumors or growths on any of the vital organs.

My father had one of the earliest open heart surgeries because of heart problems, and knowing this, when I was 45, I had a CAT scan done and found out I had what they called the lowest level of calcification of the arteries they had seen for someone my age. When I'm ripping along at 100% MHR in a TT, believe me, that means something! Recently I coaxed my doctor into giving me an ECG(echocardiogram) to determine my heart valve efficiency and heart electrical function. I found out some interesting things.

Obviously, medical science cannot prevent every problem that might occur. But folks, don't take all this for granted. Know thyself.
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Old 10-27-05, 09:57 PM
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See, this is the kind of crap I should be designing.
I'm sure the engineers at philips who makes the AED's go to bed at night feeling like they made a difference and saved a lot of lives. Nooooo... all I do is attend design meetings all day on something no one cares about...

Oh wait, where were we, oh yeah, they should have more stuff like this in cities like NYC where there's so much traffic that it takes forever to get an ambulence to a victim.
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Old 10-27-05, 09:58 PM
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Did he die or not?
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Originally Posted by DieselDan
Did he die or not?
Since he is now alive, he was not dead.
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Originally Posted by MERTON
uh... cat scans are SUPER expensive... or is that MRI..?
MRI is more expensive than CAT scans but more accurate.

https://www.citahealth.com/medical/pr...imaging_ct.asp

An average person will probably put this much $$$ into their car in the next 6 months.
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Old 10-27-05, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BaadDawg
He says btw that there is nothing on the other side, nada.
That's what I suspected all along.
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Old 10-27-05, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by waltergodefroot
MRI is more expensive than CAT scans but more accurate.

https://www.citahealth.com/medical/pr...imaging_ct.asp

An average person will probably put this much $$$ into their car in the next 6 months.

MRI is not always more accurate....it depends on what you are imaging
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Originally Posted by supcom
Since he is now alive, he was not dead.
False advertising.
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Old 10-28-05, 08:46 AM
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UPDATE***********

The bruise (hematoma) in his calf from falling when he had the attack worsened overnight and they transferred him to the Heart Institute (where he was going to have the angioplasty) to do emergency surgery to drain his leg. Angioplasty will be postponed until he recovers from his leg injury.

Poor bugger comes back from the dead and it's his leg injury from falling off a spinning bike while clipped in that's the immediate problem. Just hope this resolves quickly.
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Old 10-28-05, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by supcom
Since he is now alive, he was not dead.
He was resurrected. See, it can happen. I can vouch that there is no other side also. My heart was stopped for 2 hours during bypass surgury, so if I had a soul, it is long gone. (I'm probably having the time of my live with 50 virgins somewhere). My cadaver is going to science, if they will have me.
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Originally Posted by BaadDawg
He says btw that there is nothing on the other side, nada.
That's because he wasn't there.
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BaadDawg, couple of things.

1) very glad your instructor is OK - hope the leg issue doesn't worsen
2) I'm in Orleans and looking for a spinning class and/or ride partner. Mind if I email to ask you some Q's? I went to an intro class in that same room just a week ago. (small world)
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Old 10-28-05, 09:39 AM
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You can email or private message. I have been spinning there for 2 years.
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Originally Posted by skiahh
That's because he wasn't there.
Just like all the people who claim otherwise, Bill Clinton included.
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I need to suround myself with some nurse friends!
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Originally Posted by supcom
Since he is now alive, he was not dead.
Technically "dead" means no heartbeat or breathing. CPR is administered to dead people with the goal of sustaining their body until a defibrilator can bring them back to life.
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Originally Posted by Eggplant Jeff
Technically "dead" means no heartbeat or breathing. CPR is administered to dead people with the goal of sustaining their body until a defibrilator can bring them back to life.
Are you sure that the presence of brain activity is not a factor?
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Originally Posted by supcom
Are you sure that the presence of brain activity is not a factor?
I don't know if anyone ever accused him of having brain activity when he was alive, so the arguement in this case may be a moot point.
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Originally Posted by af895
BaadDawg, couple of things.

1) very glad your instructor is OK - hope the leg issue doesn't worsen
2) I'm in Orleans and looking for a spinning class and/or ride partner. Mind if I email to ask you some Q's? I went to an intro class in that same room just a week ago. (small world)
You're in Orleans... shouldn't you be getting into a rowing class?
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Originally Posted by supcom
Are you sure that the presence of brain activity is not a factor?
Here's a definition, from https://library.thinkquest.org/C01227.../semantics.htm

Clinical Death. No breathing, no circulation, and no brain activity characterize clinical death. But that's only half. The other side, the most integral part which separates clinical death from somatic death, is that clinical death begins at the very onset of the symptoms of death, say right after cardiac arrest has cause the heart to stop. It lasts for about four minutes, and it is the interval in which life can be brought back through CPR.
So apparently brain activity stops when the blood flow stops. However brain death doesn't occur until 3-7 minutes thereafter when "the brain can't be brought back to life by any means available today."

Somatic death is the death-- the permanent, irreversible death-- of an organism as a whole. In humans it is usually after brain death, as the other vital organs are unable to function without the brain. With modern technology, though, one can be brain dead but still have circulation and respiration artificially. In such a case one isn't somatically dead because other organs are still alive.
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Almost like jumping out of a plane and the parachute doesn't work and safely tumbling down the snow-clad side steep slope of a mountain after falling 10,000 feet.
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Originally Posted by wagathon
Almost like jumping out of a plane and the parachute doesn't work and safely tumbling down the snow-clad side steep slope of a mountain after falling 10,000 feet.
I'd like to see that.
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Originally Posted by wagathon
Almost like jumping out of a plane and the parachute doesn't work and safely tumbling down the snow-clad side steep slope of a mountain after falling 10,000 feet.

Originally Posted by operator
I'd like to see that.
First Hand?!
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