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The high price of being smug.

Old 12-07-05, 05:59 AM
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The high price of being smug.

Last night I was at the pub with a few friends when the inevitable London topic of transport entered the conversation. My friends were bitterly complaining about the impending hike in bus and train fares and how they weren't getting anything more for their money.

Naturally I couldn't resist a dig and quipped "What are these new fangled bus fares of which you speak?". Not entertained by my gloating one of my friends responded with "Seeing as you're going to be so much richer than us, I guess it's your round then."

Damn. Evidently foot in mouth is still rife in the UK.
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Old 12-07-05, 08:28 AM
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High price is right, as well. Price of a pint in London is like £3 for something resembling dish water. £4 for anything decent.

Oh well, at least you're fit and you've got rid of excess money which would only weigh you down on the commute!
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~ $7.00 for a pint of beer???!

Damn! I think I'd be brewing my own.
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What? I thought that the saying "a pint's a pound the world round" was HM's law concerning the price of beer.
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dish water? I thought british beer was supposed to be world renowned! It has to be better than american p*ss!
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The dish water he's talking about is normally american or australian branded stuff (albeit often brewed in the UK). That said, Tetley's Bitter is pretty bad, presuming they still make it.
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Originally Posted by PaulBravey
The dish water he's talking about is normally american or australian branded stuff (albeit often brewed in the UK). That said, Tetley's Bitter is pretty bad, presuming they still make it.
WTF? what Aussie branded beer is brewed in the UK? We brew our own AFAIK.

The Brits drink dishwater that hasn'r even cooled down yet, and you poor Americans, there should be a law against that stuff they try to sell you labelled 'beer'.
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while i look forward to the beer whenever i make it to Great Britain, it's mostly because i'm imbibing the local pump ales.

i think the most popular beer (well, lager anyway) in Britain is still Stella Artois. which has been called by some, "Europe's Budwieser." and they weren't being complimentary. heck; Bud, Coors and Miller are all fairly popular in Britain as well.

but the plus side is the relatively large number of local breweries; unlike the US, the market isn't dominated by three big brewers - there's a lot more choice and local flavour available.
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Originally Posted by caloso
What? I thought that the saying "a pint's a pound the world round" was HM's law concerning the price of beer.
That saying is regarding weight... of water, I believe.

Another correspondent quoted a saying that he learned as a kid, "A pint a pound, the world around." This is not strictly true. It IS true to say that 1 ml of water is 1 gram, because it's defined as so. A pound is 454 grams. An American wet pint is 471 grams, which is approximately the same. A British pint is 567 grams, which is definitely more. But this is only talking about water. Since the same amount of different materials will weigh different amounts, this can only be regarded as an extremely approximate conversion. Interestingly enough, the Americans have 16 fluid oz to a pint, while the British have 20 fluid oz to the pint. It turns out that an American dry pint is close to a British pint, while an American fluid oz (wet) is close to the British fluid oz. I don't know if this has any historical significance in the origins of the units!
From https://www.gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/units/volume.htm

As to the quality of British beer... I'll vouch for it... never saw anything close to "diswater" except the American beers I saw in the fridge in one pub. I had to ask why... the reply... "they're for the lasses, they seem to like 'em." Meanwhile I had another Theakstons... ahhhhh.
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just give me a Fuller's ESB or a Batemann's XXXB and I am one happy camper.
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They should calculate the price of their travel fees and calculate how many days of travel equal the price of owning a nice bike. Might be a better deal to finance a bike
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Originally Posted by Cyclaholic
WTF? what Aussie branded beer is brewed in the UK? We brew our own AFAIK.

The Brits drink dishwater that hasn'r even cooled down yet, and you poor Americans, there should be a law against that stuff they try to sell you labelled 'beer'.
Fosters and Castlemaine 4x are the two main aussie brands available in the UK and I remember reading that the Fosters available in the UK was brewed locally under license. I could easily be wrong though.

I almost cried with joy when I found Theakstons Best and Old Peculiar in bottles at the local BevMo. Not quite as good as the draft you can get in Yorkshire but close enough for me
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Originally Posted by PaulBravey
Fosters and Castlemaine 4x are the two main aussie brands available in the UK
Because nobody here will drink the stuff!
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I had a friend visit from Newcastle this spring and all he would drink was Bud and Lone Star. Go figure.
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.... Stella Artois. which has been called by some, "Europe's Budwieser."
That's a good one!
Do a search for original budweiser. Here's just a sample of what you'll find:

In fact Budweiser is a Czech beer brewed to strict beer laws laid down in the middle ages. The upstart American Budweiser is a about as far as you can get from the proper Czech stuff being made as it were with rice and apparently according to recent advertising not requiring much in the way of maturation as its not been made with sensible beer ingredients.
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Originally Posted by Matt Gaunt
High price is right, as well. Price of a pint in London is like £3 for something resembling dish water. £4 for anything decent.

Oh well, at least you're fit and you've got rid of excess money which would only weigh you down on the commute!
Yeah, I was going to suggest that the OP move to Manchester - used to have the cheapest pints in the UK.

I notice you are from St. Helens. I used to live in Liverpool in the early 90s' and miss a good pint of Cain's.
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Yeah, I was going to suggest that the OP move to Manchester
They have to have cheap beer in Manchester, otherwise no one would be able to drink enough to forget that they live there.
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Originally Posted by CardiacKid
I had a friend visit from Newcastle this spring and all he would drink was Bud and Lone Star. Go figure.
If all you had to drink was Newky Brown then I'd drink Bud too
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Originally Posted by Cyclaholic
and you poor Americans, there should be a law against that stuff they try to sell you labelled 'beer'.

I don't know what you're talking about - we have all sorts of excellent beers, from the more exotic american breweries, like...germany.


Actually, there IS good beer here, Shiner, TX being responsible for most of it.
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Originally Posted by Eatadonut
I don't know what you're talking about - we have all sorts of excellent beers, from the more exotic american breweries, like...germany.


Actually, there IS good beer here, Shiner, TX being responsible for most of it.
LOL... If Shinerbock is the "best" Texas has to offer, they have a long way to go... Go stop in at the UFO in Fort Worth and take a look at their offerings. Shinerbock is but a drop in the big beer bucket. 'Course with that heat and the typical Texas attitude, Bud is still number one there.
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A friend of mine used to work in a public health laboratory. He tells me that when Budweiser and Coors first applied to export to the UK, each was asked to send a sample.

After 3 weeks, came the reply. "Neither of these horses is fit to work".

By the way, the reason that English beer is not served chilled is that you don't need to refrigerate your taste buds before drinking it.

Return insults from Yanks and Aussies looked forward to.
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Originally Posted by atbman
By the way, the reason that English beer is not served chilled is that you don't need to refrigerate your taste buds before drinking it.
Forgive me for asking, but I was under the impression that the reason was the Lucas refrigerators-?

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Ok, this is my sort of thread now!

A relative of mine once told me that if I could name the beer, it was probably rubbish unless you knew of it locally, from the trade etc. It's a good rule to follow. I do live near Manchester, and it's not so cheap any more. St. Helens is ok if you find the real ale pubs but there are very few of them but at least the average stuff is really cheap. In Leicester (I live here when at university) it's quite expensive but there are some really good real ale pubs.

Favourite real ale: tough, but it has to be Black Sheep. Basically, any beer that is brewed in the National Parks of the Lake District or Yorkshire Dales is way better than any Australian or American brewery can churn out because they don't do it for maximum profit, they do it for maximum quality. The fact that is usually costs well under £2.50/pint is a bonus.

And just to brighten everyone's spirits: I have a friend who lives in Sweden, where the average cost per pint of beer is........ £9.00!!! Yes, the sharp end of $20 for a pint of wifebeater (Stella). Nice.
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I brew my own beer. Good clean fun (unless you have a boil over) and downright tasty. I like a good chewy bock or an Irish stout.
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