kinda stirring the boiling water no?

Personally, I can't stand the informercial. It is so bogus when they show someone on the Landrider smoking someone on a mtb uphill. Cmon, it's about the rider, not the bike.

I don't consider myself a bike snob. I'm all for comfort bikes and riding around the block. However, this bike is nothing but hype designed to lure in people that don't know that much about bikes. I'm sure they sell plenty of them too.

So, it's exercise but the autoshift prevents perspiration? This is truly a miracle machine! :rolleyes:

Molly-o, your last name wouldn't be Popeil, would it?

This thread is 7 months old, and it is still alive.

Nope. I think trolls like this one are hilarious, especially concidering that anyone can go to a real bike shop and buy a bike of MUCH higher quality than the $400 Basic Landrider for the same price (with or without shipping) that will last longer be more comfortable and would actually be worth fixing. Now if you gave me the money for the Elite version ($600) I'd have myself a pretty darn good bike that even the "snobs" here would give kudos for. The fact that anybody would argue that the Landrider was a GOOD bike, and not a X-mart bike with a gimmicky derailieur means they're either a troll, an employee of Landrider's marketing department, seriously delusional, or just the kind of person that believes EVERYTHING they see on TV. (I'd better watch it or I'll have one of the Lawyers from "The Practice" suing me for libel after Joe Friday arrests me) Not everyone here rides "$2000 Treks" in fact many of our members ride bikes in the $600-$800 range and under (myself included) However the bikes that we ride have QUALITY components and more importantly the backing of a real bike shop that provides service BEFORE and AFTER the sale to include fitting the bike to the person.

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from the Landrider website as are the rest of the quotesThe LandRider frame is designed to fit most people. If you are between 4'10" to 6'5" you will have no problem. If you are not in that height range, you should call Customer Service for assistance at 1-888-***-****

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Quality bikes have more than ONE SIZE frame and the bike shop will swap handlebars stems etc to achieve a proper fit as well. A real bike shop will offer free adjustments to fine tune the bike as the cables stretch (you know minor tweeking).

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We are so sure that you will love your LandRider, we offer a risk-free, 30 day money-back guarantee if you are not completely satisfied. Try your bike - ride it for 30 days, and if you don't think it's right for you, it can be returned for a full refund of the purchase price, less shipping and handling.

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A real bike shop will let you test ride the bike BEFORE you buy it, so you KNOW what you're getting. Not give you some bogus 30-day guarantee that you end up losing money on anyway. You lose shipping and handling BOTH WAYS you get to pay to send the bike back if it isn't what you like. I'll even go so far as to say that any of the shops I've dealt with they'll honor a 30-day return policy as long as the bike isn't torn to pieces.

I really didn't want to get started. I was hoping someone else would make the case for me. I'm sorry to say this because I'm glad you're at least riding(?), but as far as the Landrider goes molly-o you got robbed and you don't even know it. Hopefully you'll wander into a bike shop someday, strike up a conversation with an employee, discuss the kind of riding you do and at least ASK what the guy recommends then have him explain why (s)he would recommend it over the Landrider. Just a thought.

Sadly yes

Raiyn, dude calm down take a few deep breaths.
Feel better?
Good.

Now, who made you the head of the cycling gestapo?
Why does it bother you so much?
Its their money, let them spend how they want.
What really matters is THAT they are riding.
Not WHAT they are riding.
Kevin

The WHAT comes into play whenever the only impression people have of bikes comes from actors on some infomercial instead of from someone who actually rides a bike. Personally I'd rather she ride an X-mart bike she'd have the same bike for 1/4 the price. Besides I made the "what matters is that they are riding " point in the last paragraph.



This is mild stuff. If you want to see me going off look at some of the stuff I wrote on SUV's. You'd think I was off my meds (like I actually take 'em anyhow)

I have to agree on the fact that the LandRider is promoting cycling. We may not agree with the way they're doing it ... the commercial is laughable and the price is astronomical, but if people can walk into a LBS and smack a sales person with $1600 for a "beginner's" road bike (I've seen it done), I don't think $400 is a big deal for these people.

Everyone, listen up. Leave Raiyn alone. Once in a while, it's nice to have someone riding around in a black leather coat, concealing an iron rod and takin on the mantle of Bike Gestapo. Sometimes we need someone to say, "vee haf vays of making you ride your bike. You vill buy quality or ve vill haf you shot or verse, we vill make you own a Landrider.".

Just a hunch. I have one myself.

I run the Cannondale Gestapo Unit. You won't believe how many non-Cannondale riders I've had to shoot this year.

$600?? I guess I missed that part of the thread....

sheesh why wouldn't somebody buy a giant or something for the same amount of money... oh well:rolleyes:

Hi,
Thanks for saving me from the LandRider. I drive a manual transmission car, so not sure why this bike appealed to me. BUT, I do want a new bike since my Univega touring bike is gathering rust in the basement. And as someone pointed out the bad LandRiders appeal to those over 50. Actually, I am over 60 and very active. I've biked all over the place and for fairly long distances. I think the new category is "comfort" bikes. I want to sit more upright and have some sort of shock absorption. I am not afraid to shift gears, but I may not need 50 of them. So give me some recommendations, and get me on the road again. I also don't want to spend a thousand bucks.

Annie:

My wife recently bought a Cannondale 400 comfort bike. Nice upright position with front shocks and a shock seatpost. Good quality components from a very reputable brand. She's very happy with it. You might want to go to a local bike shop and check one (or a similar bike) out for a test ride.

Good luck and welcome to BF.

If you ask me?

This bike is very ugly...

Auto? Are people that lazy? really?

Thanks to everyone who responded. As always the place to go is your local dealer for help and that's what I have done. Not sure what the final decision is but there are some good options. Thanks again.

Just flipped to QVC and I see a bike, a Landrider.......nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!! I hope people realize that the bike is a hunka junk, but the counter bar is probably in the thousands already:(

Let it die! Please?

Those landriders are for people who have never riden a bike. or at least not ridden since they got a drivers license. My sister and brother in law recently got new bikes, comfort bikes, and at first they were going to buy one speed cruisers. My brother in law said that 21 or 24 speeds were too many. They did get 21 speed bikes and are riding around town a lot, and using the gears! But most people don't have a clue about gears or bike fit or bikes in general. Yhat's why landriders will stay in businsess and peolpe will think they're great bikes.

While on my bike trip this weekend (I will post details later in the Rec forum) I ended up at the lbs near William & Mary to get a fix for my seat tube problem. Right after I get there a woman walks in with a landrider bike. I am evil, nosy and want to know why she was bringing it in. I ask her how she likes the bike, she says she loves it especially when it works. She then goes on to tell me the rear derailler just stopped working. I ask her how long she has had the bike, and she tells me a month. At that point I shut my mouth, but she continues on saying she called customer service and instead of replacing the bike, they replace the derailler.

Customer service called the shop to make the arrangements for the repair, which I thought was nice. But after looking at the bike I can't help but that it is a monstrosity. She had the hardest time getting it into the shop and then had to twist the handbars 360 degrees to untangle the cables. In my opnion the bike is a straight mess. I don't buy the fact that people forget or are to stupid to learn how to shift. But atleast she is/was riding, and maybe next time she goes in to the shop for repairs or a tuneup, she will take a look at the nice shiny Bianchis on the floor and decide to take one home.

Now the thread can die.

Thanks for all the responses and good advice. I get the picture!

I think shifting is part of the experience of riding a bike. I always like working my way up a hill, shifting gears as I progress. Sometimes I purposely leave the bike in a lower gear to get a better workout. It is similar to using a camera with an automatic setting versus one where you have to set the shutter speeed and aperture. You tend to learn more about how to compose a picture. Another example would be driving a sportscar with an automatic transmission. I don't think it would be as much fun.

There are better bikes out there for $400 and shifting is not really that hard to master. Maybe someone with arthritis in their hands might find it easier to operate.