Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > General Cycling Discussion
Reload this Page >

Fear of falling with clipless pedals

Search
Notices
General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

Fear of falling with clipless pedals

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-02-06, 12:16 AM
  #1  
Antelope Valley cyclist
Thread Starter
 
MicheleC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Palmdale, California
Posts: 128

Bikes: Lynskey, Brompton, Public

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Fear of falling with clipless pedals

I've tried to adjust to clipless pedals.

With the 1st set of shoes and pedals I bought at LBS when I bought the road bike, I had trouble getting my right foot out of the pedal before falling. I've fallen countless times.

My friend took me to another bike shop, where they told me that the shoes were not stiff enough and that the pedals were MTB pedals, not road pedals, so I bought a new pair of shoes and Speedplay pedals. In the shop, they seemed really easy to get in and out of.

Well, on the street, while they aren't as difficult to get my right foot out of as the previous shoe/pedal, I still have trouble and I've already fallen once at an intersection.

Now, when I know I need to get my foot out, I'm getting apprehensive and scared.

Today, when I had to ride to a meeting, I rode my folding bike that has platform pedals, rather than ride the road bike. Well, not just because of the pedals but also because I can put stuff on the rack in the back instead of in a bag on my back. But, I noticed how much more comfortable I was when I had to come to a stop and when I had to walk for any distance. It's really difficult walking in the new shoes.

I've been trying to get used to clipless since October. Granted, I've been sick the past few weeks and didn't have a chance to practice since I got the new pedals, but is there something wrong with me that it is taking me so long to adjust?

Is there some technique that will help?
MicheleC is offline  
Old 02-02-06, 12:31 AM
  #2  
Flowbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: NorCal
Posts: 318
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Assuming that the pedal and cleat are in good condition,(i.e. not broken) the only thing that will help is practice. Lean up against a wall and clip in and out with both feet. Get it down so that you can clip out without thinking that you're clipping out, rather, that you're putting your foot down. Then move on to the ubiquitous grassy field and practice some more at various speeds, and "sudden"stops.If you get this far, riding out in the world is easier. You usually know when you need to stop, prepare for it, clip out one (or both)when you see a need to stop.I usually unclip one side if I'm in slow traffic or on a MUP with unpredictable traffic(read dogs&kids) Don't go back into traffic unless you're confident in your ability to get in and out. No sense in getting killed over these things.

Apart from that,many pedals have some tension adjustment for the pressure needed to clip out, make sure yours are set to light for now. Read the manual that came with them. Eh, that and the occasional drop of lube on the cleat to keep things smooth.
Sasquatchula is offline  
Old 02-02-06, 12:31 AM
  #3  
RacingBear
 
UmneyDurak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: NorCal
Posts: 9,053
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 280 Post(s)
Liked 68 Times in 36 Posts
As with anything else, practice helps. Find some place with no sharp objects, etc and practice clipping in and out while the bike is still moving. Actually by the sound of it, you tried to unclip when the bike came to a stop. Try unclipping before that, while the bike is still moving and you are slowing down.
UmneyDurak is offline  
Old 02-02-06, 01:43 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 604

Bikes: LeMond Zurich

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
When you are coming to a stop, unclip one side first and lean slightly to the unclipped side. You may have to slide forward off the saddle, so that your foot can touch the ground as you roll to a stop. Above all, relax! Practice loosening your grip on the handlebars and relaxing your shoulders. Breathe in deeply and let the air out as slowly as possible. Tension is the enemy of balance.
__________________
I’m not familiar precisely with exactly what I said, but I stand by what I said whatever it was.
Poppaspoke is offline  
Old 02-02-06, 02:00 AM
  #5  
In Real Life
 
Machka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Down under down under
Posts: 52,152

Bikes: Lots

Mentioned: 141 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3203 Post(s)
Liked 596 Times in 329 Posts
Do you own a trainer? If so, put your bicycle up on the trainer and practice clipping in and out. While you are doing that, if you find you are still having difficulty, make some adjustments to your pedals to make them looser.

BTW - I've got mtn bike shoes, and the SPD pedals, and they are just fine for clipping in and out ... I've got literally thousands of kilometers with the pedals and shoes, and I've clipped in and out probably thousands of times too. I've never heard of someone needing stiffer soles to make that process easier!! All I had to do was to loosen off one screw. You can get them so loose you're almost stepping out of them ... and then you need to tighten them just a little bit.

My mtn bike shoes are also much easier to walk around in than my roadie shoes ever were.
Machka is offline  
Old 02-02-06, 03:08 AM
  #6  
mac
They see me rollin'
 
mac's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 784

Bikes: 2005 Cannondale T2000

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Dude, I learned how to use LOOK pedals on a sidestreet outside of my LBS many years ago.

Okay, try this - put your bike parallel to a wall, get on, use your arm to support you, and clip in with both feet. Now clip in & out with your foot on the opposite side of wall until comes natural. Get off, turn around the bike and do the same thing with your other foot.

Maybe the tension is too tight? When I got my new LOOK pedals last summer, I made them as tight as possible. Oops, I almost fell over at a light and had to forcefully jam my foot out.
mac is offline  
Old 02-02-06, 03:32 AM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
DannoXYZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Saratoga, CA
Posts: 11,736
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 109 Post(s)
Liked 9 Times in 6 Posts
Originally Posted by MicheleC
Is there some technique that will help?
Practice hundreds of times. Set your bike up next to the couch when you'd normally be watching TV or something and just practice clipping in and out. About 30-45 minutes a day should do it. The rotation motion of the foot really isn't natural, so you'd need to make it automatic through lots of repetitions.
DannoXYZ is offline  
Old 02-02-06, 08:20 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
curt in denver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Englewood, Colorado
Posts: 458

Bikes: Giant Ocr limited (carbon) Redline Conquest (cross)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
You might, But you will probably live.
curt in denver is offline  
Old 02-02-06, 08:27 AM
  #9  
Dances With Cars
 
TRaffic Jammer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 10,527

Bikes: TBL Onyx Pro(ss converted), Pake SS (starting to look kinda pimped)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Just swing your heel to the outside and twist the cleat out. Like the above as well just relax, I think we've all fallen at least once. Practice at home, makinging adjustments if you need to.

'mmmm it is your fear that stops you now young Skywalker'
TRaffic Jammer is offline  
Old 02-02-06, 08:34 AM
  #10  
Banned.
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: ny
Posts: 1,764
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 36 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
On the other hand some people never get use to clipless pedals, Toe clips and straps still work just fine. You can even still get the retro-cool stainless steel and leather ones.
Cyclist0094 is offline  
Old 02-02-06, 10:46 AM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
Coyote2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,393
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Falling is just part of this learning process, unfortunately. I've been riding these pedals for years and still occasionally fall while daydreaming.
Coyote2 is offline  
Old 02-02-06, 11:23 AM
  #12  
Antelope Valley cyclist
Thread Starter
 
MicheleC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Palmdale, California
Posts: 128

Bikes: Lynskey, Brompton, Public

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thank you, everyone, for your replies. I'll keep practicing.
MicheleC is offline  
Old 02-02-06, 11:32 AM
  #13  
hello
 
roadfix's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 18,692
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 193 Post(s)
Liked 115 Times in 51 Posts
I think what's going on in your head rather than your physical ability to click out is causing you problems. Have a couple of beers, and practice riding in an empty golf course...
roadfix is offline  
Old 02-02-06, 11:47 AM
  #14  
Senior Member
 
barba's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,083
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
+1 on the trainer idea if you have it. Got to build that muscle memory...

Relaxing and thinking calmly is the biggest trick. The moment you panic, your instinct is to lift your foot off the pedal to put it down. When it won't let go you get more panicked and shortly after flop over. Clip out one side well before you anticipate a stop. You can rest a different part of you foot over the pedal for stability without engaging the clip. Stay with it, though. They are great.

Stay out of traffic until you get it down. Falling over in you yard is embarrassing. Falling over at an intersection full of cars is terrifying (from experience).
barba is offline  
Old 02-02-06, 02:07 PM
  #15  
Mad bike riding scientist
 
cyccommute's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 27,342

Bikes: Some silver ones, a red one, a black and orange one, and a few titanium ones

Mentioned: 152 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6200 Post(s)
Liked 4,202 Times in 2,358 Posts
Originally Posted by barba
Stay out of traffic until you get it down. Falling over in you yard is embarrassing. Falling over at an intersection full of cars is terrifying (from experience).
Falling in front of a rush hour bus is far more embarrassing then terrifying (from experience).

'Course we were both stopping for a light and I happened to be in front of it. I am glad that I could provide a small amount of entertainment to lighten their day.
__________________
Stuart Black
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Old School…When It Wasn’t Ancient bikepacking
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!



cyccommute is offline  
Old 02-02-06, 03:57 PM
  #16  
Sensible shoes.
 
CastIron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: St. Paul,MN
Posts: 8,798

Bikes: A few.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Falling while clipped in is a right of passage. Accept it.
__________________
Mike
Originally Posted by cedricbosch
It looks silly when you have quotes from other forum members in your signature. Nobody on this forum is that funny.
Originally Posted by cedricbosch
Why am I in your signature.
CastIron is offline  
Old 02-02-06, 04:37 PM
  #17  
Huachuca Rider
 
webist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 4,275

Bikes: Fuji CCR1, Specialized Roubaix

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I have never been able to figure out why this helps, but it seems to. My LBS manager told me when I first purchased mine to look down at the foot I was planning to disengage. It helped!

It does also help greatly to have the tension on the release as loose as you can without having the shoe disengage when pulling straight up. As mentioned by an earlier poster, you can always tighten it later.
__________________
Just Peddlin' Around
webist is offline  
Old 02-02-06, 04:54 PM
  #18  
Up on the Down Side
 
CyLowe97's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Chicago(ish)
Posts: 6,334
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by CastIron
Falling while clipped in is a right of passage. Accept it.
This should read: "Falling while clipped (while at a stop light where several onlookers gape at your slow-motion drop to the ground) is a right of passage. Accept it."



Been there, fallen like that.

It's to the point now, though, that riding w/o clipless pedals on other bikes feels un-natural, un-stable, un-secure.

MicheleC, Keep on practicing!!
CyLowe97 is offline  
Old 02-02-06, 05:41 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
DannoXYZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Saratoga, CA
Posts: 11,736
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 109 Post(s)
Liked 9 Times in 6 Posts
I was pretty bad at this in the beginning too because I used the AeroLite pedals which required a bizarre roll-to-the-outside-and-yank motion to free myself. I actually practiced catching my fall with one hand and easing into the ground gently. Woudln't recommend this unless you've got some upper-body strength... could break your wrist and collarbone..
DannoXYZ is offline  
Old 02-02-06, 06:16 PM
  #20  
Taking "s" outta "Fast"
 
AfterThisNap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Zoo York City
Posts: 1,989
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
All these suggestions are really good. As for commuting, I would (and do) use MTB pedals and shoes.
Next time you go out spray your cleat and pedal down with some chain lube to free up the mechanisms a bit and give you a better feel.
Also, if subtle ankle movements aren't working for you, try hugely exaggerated movements to try to clip out (while on a trainer or leaning against a wall). Throw your leg out like you're six years old and gliding through a giant puddle. It will help get the motion down.
AfterThisNap is offline  
Old 02-02-06, 06:25 PM
  #21  
Conquer Cancer rider
 
Boudicca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Toronto
Posts: 6,039

Bikes: Fun bike, city bike, Bike Friday, Brompton (also fun bikes)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Keep trying, eventually it will become so automatic you won't know you are doing it. Last time I rode a bike WITHOUT clipless pedals I kept twisting my foot when I slowed to a stop.

And the golf course idea is a good one. It doesn't hurt so much when you fall. Parks work as well.
__________________
Zero gallons to the mile
Boudicca is offline  
Old 02-02-06, 06:35 PM
  #22  
Dances With Cars
 
TRaffic Jammer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 10,527

Bikes: TBL Onyx Pro(ss converted), Pake SS (starting to look kinda pimped)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Make sure you practice on the REALLY nice greens near the hole...leave loads of weird indentations..... lol
TRaffic Jammer is offline  
Old 02-02-06, 08:41 PM
  #23  
Senior Member
 
DieselDan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Beaufort, South Carolina, USA and surrounding islands.
Posts: 8,521

Bikes: Cannondale R500, Motobecane Messenger

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 11 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by CastIron
Falling while clipped in is a right of passage. Accept it.
Break a cleat while you're at it, you get double bonus points.
DieselDan is offline  
Old 02-02-06, 08:50 PM
  #24  
totally louche
 
Bekologist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: A land that time forgot
Posts: 18,023

Bikes: the ever shifting stable loaded with comfortable road bikes and city and winter bikes

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times in 9 Posts
Remember when SPD first came out?

THAT was a tough summer of biking!!

I remember, fondly, watching my buddy Jeff, get slowed up on a technical trail bit and teeter right over into a tree, *****ing and screaming he couldn't unclip....

And I did the same a few times as well! I think we were trying to keep them dialed real stiff, like ski bindings - for some reason, we didn't trust the concept of SPD keeping you on the pedals....

Last edited by Bekologist; 02-04-06 at 07:51 AM.
Bekologist is offline  
Old 02-02-06, 08:52 PM
  #25  
Barbieri Telefonico
 
huhenio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
Posts: 3,522

Bikes: Crappy but operational secondhand Motobecane Messenger

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Go for it ... leave them as loose as possible at the beggining.

Just like straps, bend your heels outwards so to unclip.

I can clip and unclip at +- 100 pedal rpm without trouble at all, it is a matter of getting used to, like in ten minutes.
__________________
Giving Haircuts Over The Phone
huhenio is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.