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Telescoping baton? Isn't that what an old fasioned frame pump with a Silca metal valve head is?

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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh

Telescoping baton? Isn't that what an old fasioned frame pump with a Silca metal valve head is?

It certainly is and probably would be as effective.

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Originally Posted by Bikes-N-Drums

It certainly is and probably would be as effective.

I own both, and having "field tested" an ASP, I can assure you that is not the case. A baton is heavier, much more sturdy, and has its weight nicely distributed for beating purposes. Batons are purpose built for fighting, whereas bike pumps are purpose built tubes for pumping air, yes even the heavier steel ones from the 70's. Using a bike pump as a club is about as clever as pounding 16 penny nails with your wife's favorite flower vase.

On the other hand, I will admit that I have carried a frame pump filled with loose bird shot, and that would have certainly been an effective weapon. In places like Kalifornia or DC, its an attractive option.

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Originally Posted by Flamingmb

thats what I am worried about. I dont know if I can carry a knife or a baton or even pepper spray. And it dosent help things that I am under 18. I live in portland oregon and I dont know what the law is here about batons.

Oregon is a very liberal state. They look down at armed citizens. You might want to change your route. Definitley check your states laws though. Good luck.

Tim