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Old 07-27-06, 02:59 PM
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Discount on Bike(s) at an LBS

My wife and I are thinking about getting something a bit more current
than our "classic steel" road bikes and I was wondering what if any
discount, incentives we should/could get.

Each bike will probably be 2500.00+. For sake of argument would we expect
any difference between a built up bike (for examples only, Trek or Scott) or
getting a frame and specing it out.


Comments/Insight are appreciated.


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Old 07-27-06, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ken_z
My wife and I are thinking about getting something a bit more current
than our "classic steel" road bikes and I was wondering what if any
discount, incentives we should/could get.

Each bike will probably be 2500.00+. For sake of argument would we expect
any difference between a built up bike (for examples only, Trek or Scott) or
getting a frame and specing it out.


Comments/Insight are appreciated.


Thanks
Ken
Discounts/incentives all depend on the shop. It's pretty customary around here for a shop to offer a free tuneup within a certain number of months and a 10-15% discount on accessories. You could even ask if they'll throw in a water bottle or some of the cheap necessities. Maybe they won't do it, but it doesn't hurt to ask. If they're not willing to offer any incentives at all when you spend $5,000, wish 'em the best and go somewhere else to buy your bikes.

Buying a complete bike will be cheaper than piecing together a frame, but you've got a pretty good budget there (unless you're going the Carbon or Ti route). My Gunnar was a custom build and ended up costing about $2500 (mostly Ultegra parts).

If you know a lot about components and what your needs are, consider a custom build. Otherwise, you'll get the most for your money buy buying complete. My opinion.
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Building a bike is more expensive. You pay retail on each part individually. It's the premium for getting it just the way you want.
If you want a discount on a bike, then buy one on-sale or a 'leftover' from previous years.

When buying a bike from a shop I know and trust, I usually explain my budget, wants, needs, and tell 'em to show me what they have to best suit them. But that's only when buying from an expert. I liken it to being a fan of wine and asking a sommelier to pick something nice for <$100. It usually nets better results--if the guy is a pro.
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Discount off of what price?
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Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
Discount off of what price?
Discount off MSRP. I can find the difference between dealer
cost and MSRP on a new car and have room to negotiate.

If a complete bike costs 2500.00, what % should I expect to save
off MSRP?

If a frame and components costs 3500.00, what % should I expect
to save off MSRP.

If a frame and components costs 7500.00, what % should I expect
to save off MSRP.

Do LBS's typically negotiate? I don't know, hence the question.

I purchased 3 bikes from a LBS and part of the deal
was future savings. LBS went out of business....

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Originally Posted by ken_z
Do LBS's typically negotiate? I don't know, hence the question.
Yes, they should. If not, time to find a new LBS.

Hell, my bike is $539, and they(lbs) threw in a pair of cages+bottles.

For $2,500 I expect better "incentives".
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Yes there is a profit margin on all bikes and some are more than others. The higher end bikes have quite a large margin because they do not move as easy... they probably sell 100 500 dollar bikes for every 7500 dollar one for example. I even was able to get a discount on my bowery, all of 60 or so off.
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Originally Posted by my58vw
Yes there is a profit margin on all bikes and some are more than others. The higher end bikes have quite a large margin because they do not move as easy... they probably sell 100 500 dollar bikes for every 7500 dollar one for example. I even was able to get a discount on my bowery, all of 60 or so off.
Depends on the shop. In the UK we have a few Chains and trying to get any form of deal from these shops would be difficult. They have have the range of bikes and in various sizes, but as to a discount- Forget it.

Now an LBS is a different matter. They would obviously have to carry the franchise for the bike you want- or you buy a bike that they do carry, but 10% discount is the norm from my local. Big advantage of an LBS is the personal treatment and fitting of the bikes.
I have just recently got a new bike and they know me. They know the size I like- Small and compact- and they had the size and model in stock that I eventually bought. They did put me on other size bikes, and even made me try different models- just to make certain the bike fitted and was what I wanted. When a friend of mine went in a week later- he got the same treatment but they did not have the model he wanted, in the size he wanted. They got the size sorted by trying a couple of other models and ordered one in for him. 10 days later it was in and when he tried it- He did not like it. Bar stem was too short- and the wheels were not what he wanted as they had changed the specification. No problem- They sorted the stem length F.O.C. and took the wheels off a different size bike. 2 happy customers and an LBS that will be getting future business from both of us.

On top of that- They Know I am a good mechanic- so I got an extra bottle & cage, tube and Pump thrown in. My friend got the extra tube only and was told to bring his bike back after 6 weeks to get the wheels checked and get any adjustments done as the first free service.
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Knowing what you're currently riding would make this a lot easier, but don't assume that buying a $2500 bike will make you happier. Going from a steel to an aluminum frame might do quite the opposite. Try riding aluminum for a while first. Also don't assume that a weight savings will matter - it depends on your size and how you ride. Nor should "upgrading" from, say, 8-speed Ultegra to 10-speed Ultegra justify spending $5000.

It might make more sense to upgrade your current bikes. And/or buy second bikes for wet and around-town riding, or touring. Or look for a new steel-frame bike. Or consider carbon if you're not huge and can stretch the budget a bit.

If you really want new, some LBSs around here offer lifetime service with an expensive bike, and pricewise I've been offered $600 off a $2500 bike (e.g. Cannondale R1000 that I didn't buy because the ride was so harsh).
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