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chipcom 08-20-06 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
Annually I buy a can of Silicone Spray for $2 and a new chain for $5, and never get dirty hands.

Now if we could just get you to bathe at least annually....

chipcom 08-20-06 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by kf5nd
Helmet Head suggested motor oil, because he wants to always think that he's a motor car.

Yup, if ya wanna be VC ya gotta use motor oil. You can get away with the regular stuff, but to be an uber-vehicular cyclist you should use the latest synthentic oils. Don't forget your personalized license plate too!

I-Like-To-Bike 08-20-06 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by chipcom
Now if we could just get you to bathe at least annually....

I prefer white-outs for a good cleansing.

Nachoman 08-20-06 10:26 PM

Personally I prefer antifreze to lube my chain.:p

Waxbytes 08-20-06 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by slowandsteady
I would like to thank the person(s) who recommended using motor oil as a chain lubricant.

First of all, I would like to thank you for the mediocre lubrication it provided.

Secondly I would like to thank you for the massive amounts of dirt, grime, grit, scum, swill, and funk that appeared on my chain within a week and began to take over my life by week two.

Thirdly, I would like to thank you for the semi-permanent and reapplied daily chain tatoo on my right calf.

Fourthly, I would like to thank you for the copious amounts of black splatter on my nice new rims.

Finally, I would like to thank you for the fumes that permeate my house as I had to use car engine cleaner to remove said funk from my chain.

I was a fool to stray from KryTech dry wax lubricants. Motor oil should stay in motors.



OH MY ! You got the rims dirty on your bike!... Horrors...:eek:

wagathon 08-21-06 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by spinnaker
Some guy on the internet told me that I could cure my headache by plunging an ice pick into both eyes. I did it, now I have blood all over the floor, I am bind in both eyes and my head hurts worse than ever! Thanks guy on the internet.

Brutal. Maybe take this rant to P&R where some rich, commie ***** paws the earth with her hoof to educate us on the mathematics of oil economicss or get a more sympathetic ear by blaming all of this on Bush or Zionists. :)

maximusvt 08-21-06 09:22 AM

If you search bikeforums on "motor oil" there are a lot of threads discussing its use as a chain lube, and in those threads nobody reacts to it with the horror that some of you guys are right now.Personally, I can say that I went to a shop three weeks ago and asked for a lube- I got Pedro's Ice Wax at the salesperson's recommendation and it only took me a day or two to realize that it was the totally wrong kind of lube for the riding I do and the frequency with which I am willing to lube my chain (every friggin ride? give me a break!)
After reading up on it some more I just decided to wipe off the ass wax and try some synthetic motor oil I had in the trunk of my car- WOW, it worked! It did not get my rims dirty. Yeah, I got a chainring tattoo, but I don't give a crap about that. I would guess that you used way too much on your chain and didn't wipe off the excess. Yeah, it collects dirt, but only when I'm doing some seriously dirty riding and I would normally have to clean off the chain anyway.
The 3/1 mineral spirit/motor oil thing sounds interesting. I might try that out next time. One things for sure, the motor oil is a helluva lot better than the "specialized bicycle wax lube" the LBS sold me which lasts about 25 miles. So don't knock the homebrew!

grolby 08-21-06 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Waxbytes
OH MY ! You got the rims dirty on your bike!... Horrors...:eek:

Ever try to slow down when your braking surface has a nice splattering of oil or other lubricant? Not fun.

Waxbytes 08-21-06 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by grolby
Ever try to slow down when your braking surface has a nice splattering of oil or other lubricant? Not fun.

I use the front brake the most, and I can't see how that rim could get covered with chain oil.

I-Like-To-Bike 08-21-06 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by grolby
Ever try to slow down when your braking surface has a nice splattering of oil or other lubricant? Not fun.

Yep. Just like snow/slush buildup in the winter, no problem with coaster brake bikes. My golden advice: Forget chain lube advice; forget about your rims, get coaster brakes.

DataJunkie 08-21-06 11:22 AM

the heck with brakes. flintstone it

Besides in winter I tend to use snowdrifts as braking devices but that is a whole other issue.

BlazingPedals 08-21-06 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by maximusvt
If you search bikeforums on "motor oil" there are a lot of threads discussing its use as a chain lube, and in those threads nobody reacts to it with the horror that some of you guys are right now.

'Tis true... but OTOH, proponents usually mix something with the motor oil to thin it down, and they don't try to present it as being 'clean.' I find it slightly amusing that the OP seemed surprised that motor oil was oily. Maybe thinning it down with WD-40 would do the trick! :o

CastIron 08-21-06 04:23 PM

Garbage in=garbage out.

KrisPistofferson 08-21-06 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by wagathon
Brutal. Maybe take this rant to P&R where some rich, commie ***** paws the earth with her hoof to educate us on the mathematics of oil economicss or get a more sympathetic ear by blaming all of this on Bush or Zionists. :)

Or he could be like you and come off as an idiot no matter where he posts. :bday:

wagathon 08-21-06 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by KrisPistofferson
Or he could be like you and come off as an idiot no matter where he posts. :bday:

I better not slow down too quick; I'll get your nose up my a$$

randya 08-21-06 10:00 PM

Dirt on the outside of your chain might be unsightly, but it makes no difference. It's what's inside and between the chain rollers and plates that's important. I don't use motor oil, but I also don't worry about the normal dirt that accumulates on my chain. It may not be aesthetic or cosmetic, but it makes no difference in the performance or longevity of your chain.

ollo_ollo 08-21-06 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by Eatadonut
why? works great!

(regarding using gasoline as a cleaner)
Gasoline may clean well but it is highly volatile & easily forms an explosive mixture with air. I personally saw the results of a kid cleaning motorcycle parts with gasoline in his apartment: Static discharge or a spark from some switch ignited the mix in his room, killing him & starting a sizeable blaze. Cleaning parts with gasoline just isn't worth the risk when there are safer solvents available Don.

DMF 08-22-06 12:07 PM

No one advocated doing it indoors. That's not bright. Darwinian maybe, but not bright.

Why has no one mentioned the amount of lubricant used? You don't pour it on. Measure it out with an eyedropper. Literally 2-3 drops (maybe more if the chain is really dry). Motor oil isn't great, but it doesn't have to make a mess, either.

pigmode 08-22-06 01:08 PM

My recent web search on this subject seems to indicate that Spermaceti may very well be the ultimate wax-based bicycle chain lube. Any feedback on Queequeg's Curio Shoppe up in Nantucket?

MyPC8MyBrain 08-22-06 01:37 PM

Wax based lube.
Lubes great, and no goopy gunky black stuff builds up on the chain.

I know everything.. this is the only correct answer :)

ron m 08-22-06 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by MyPC8MyBrain
Wax based lube.
Lubes great, and no goopy gunky black stuff builds up on the chain.

I know everything.. this is the only correct answer :)

Wax-based lubes (I've always used White Lightning) have been my choice. However, I dropped by bike off for service last week before I left for vacation and when the LBS asked whether he can do what he believes is needed, I answered "Yes". When I returned I found a new chain on my bike despite the fact that the chain replaced had less than 3,500 miles on it. I've always lubed my chain at least every 50 miles. My LBS suggested switching to a dry lube. So now I'm reconsidering choice of lubes.

caloso 08-22-06 02:17 PM

For Eddy's sake, people! Wipe your chains!

Nermal 08-22-06 02:28 PM

WD-40 is a really good cleaner, RobCat. I've used it on all kinds of babbit bearings while working in the power plant. Like someone else said about the lube oil, though, fine if you're using gallons.

Actually, I do clean the chain with a toothbrush and solvent. The solvent is intended as the final prep before automotive painting. It doesn't seem to damage anything but grease, and evaporates slowly enough that it cleans and runs off, instead of evaporating in place. Electrical contact cleaner is probably even safer.

Now, of course, you are going to test any solvent before getting it on paint or plastic parts, right?

Svr 08-22-06 03:48 PM

This thread has become quite entertaining. I guess the "best" chain lube really depends on the rider and riding conditions.

I'm still using 90wt gear oil and loving every minute of it. My 2nd choice would be Finish Line Cross Country, which is a wet, oil type lubricant.

bedian 08-22-06 06:11 PM

I've been using Tri-Flow for years with no problems on my road bike. Just don't over-do it.


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