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Old 09-19-06, 12:13 PM
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My wife needs a specially designed saddle.

She is riding on one of those weird saddles, it is shaped liked 8 inches in width and 4 inches deep. But, the horn only protrudes from the saddle like 1/2 inch. The horn is very short and narrow. .
She had urinary tract surgery from her cancer. She feels she has special needs , and most rides intensify some discomfort to the areas effected by her surgery.
THe present shaped saddle might work fine, if we could find the same shape , but with the ergo hole for women.
Anyone know if specially designed saddles can be found for people with special medical needs.
We can conquer this discomfort after a ride, she would be pleased if she can take up her riding. Now she fears , post ride everyday problems are intensified . I am proud to say, she once thought 2-3 miles a big deal. She has been out for as much as 20 miles. A good start. thanks.

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There are noseless saddles that have no horn at all, just two "pillows" for bum. Stuff like here: http://www.hobsonseats.com/products.htm . They get mixed reviews (a lot of people say the nose is essential for controlling the bike) but it may be worth a try for someone with medical issues.

I saw these seats in a couple of local bike shops. Perhaps you can find a bike shop around the area that carries something like that would let you test-ride it?
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Chephy. It might work. I think the saddle she has would work, if if had the center ergo feature. I wonder how the hobson seat would effect bike control. I long horn would likely place pressure adjacent the surgery. That's the problem. thanks. Will look for the hobson, tho and give it a try.
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Maybe a recumbent would be more suitable for her?
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Originally Posted by chephy
There are noseless saddles that have no horn at all, just two "pillows" for bum. Stuff like here: http://www.hobsonseats.com/products.htm . They get mixed reviews (a lot of people say the nose is essential for controlling the bike) but it may be worth a try for someone with medical issues.

I saw these seats in a couple of local bike shops. Perhaps you can find a bike shop around the area that carries something like that would let you test-ride it?
I've heard the same about the control issues with the hobson saddle. About how one "subconsciously" leans with the thighs to control in turns. I read a review by someone who said that the bike spontaneously slipped from under them during turns.

If there are medical issues involved that will preclude sitting on a saddle, a recumbent may be the way to go. If it's just a problem with a particular kind of saddle (soft squishy gel or foam, anyone?) then maybe she should look into a Brooks leather saddle. I used to be a doubter, but I firmly believe now that the Brooks B-17 may be the finest saddle ever made.
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The present saddle she is riding on is called "The Seat," Ergo , lld. If only it had the cut out in the center, for her it might work . Was hoping someone knew of special saddle manufacturers, who sort of custom builds seats.
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I think I saw one that looked like a junksaver saddle, but with the tip of the nose gone. So it would apply pressure mostly on the sides and rear of the vulva rather than forward, nearer the mons. If I find it I'll PM you.
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The Terry saddles have cutouts. But if you get a Brooks you don't need a cutout since they are designed properly to support the sit bones and keep unmentionables above the horn.
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What about something like this: http://www.ismseat.com/products.htm ?

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Originally Posted by mcastle
What about something like this: http://www.ismseat.com/products.htm ?

I think this might be the one thanks. Sort of similiar to "The Seat" model, but with a cut out. Before you brought our attention to this model, I emailed "The Seat 'people because it's model with a cut out is what we need. They replied back, anatomical studies showed 'cut outs' to increase pressure elsewhere, so discomfort is increased 'elsewhere.'
I emailed him back and said, people with this particular health problem need the pressue relocated 'elsewhere.' thanks.
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You might check this out.

http://www.realseat.com/about.html

It looks like it's based on a design by Dan Henry.

See the Dan Henry hammock on this page at jimlangley.net

http://www.jimlangley.net/crank/bicycleseats.html
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Old 11-21-06, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by cyclezealot
She is riding on one of those weird saddles, it is shaped liked 8 inches in width and 4 inches deep. But, the horn only protrudes from the saddle like 1/2 inch. The horn is very short and narrow. .
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Noseless saddles don't work well on conventional "upright" bicycles, because these bicycles locate the cranks too much under the seat, and the person slides forward off the seat.

I'd suggest she test-ride a RANS Fusion ($950) or another of the RANS Sport Series line (Cruz, Dynamik or Zenetic). They use a big proprietary seat that has a small "nose" area, but it can be angled to greatly reduce such pressure and the frame geometry means that they can still be pedaled efficiently. The RANS bikes use a bigger diameter than normal seatpost (1-3/8") so a normal seat cannot be immediately fitted to them. It certainly wouldn't be impossible, but it's got a custom bracket that holds a custom seat to the custom seatpost.
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Other possible bike choices (that use normal seatposts) are the Lightfoot Surefoot (~$750) and the Sun SunRay (~$425). The main disadvangate these bikes have against the RANS bikes is that the RANS bikes use tall stems and short handlebars, and so you can pull quite hard on the bars to pedal. These cheaper bikes use tall handlebars that wouldn't withstand such pulling, so you might have to put on some shorter bars. .....You notice looking that the photos on the Lightfoot site--those people are sitting straight up with their hands on the bars, almost leaning back a bit. Some BMX bars would fix that easily.

As far as alternate saddles go, there's a bunch of shelf and "dual-pad" types. If you mounted a moonsaddle backwards, it would place no pressure on the central area at all ( http://www.moonsaddle.com/ ).
[Note: the moonsaddle website shows that it is supposed to be mounted "pointing backwards", but I got into a discussion elsewhere if it wouldn't work even better "pointing forwards". I was firmly in the "pointed forwards" camp-]
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At the lower end you have bikes like the Giant Revive and Electra Townies. I do not think much of these bikes, because although they move the cranks forward, they do not move them nearly forward enough. They gain only a minor improvement in comfort and suffer a big loss in pedalling efficiency.
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And then, there are the recumbents, if she might have them. Cycle Genius and Sun both make some cheaper CLWB models for around $600.
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The Easy Seat.

I know five or six ladies that use these and love them. One of them has three, and she rides centuries with me on her easy seat.

http://painfreecycling.com/index.php...d=14&Itemid=27
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buy her a greenspeed trike.
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Before you buy anything, try taking some carpet padding or other dense foam and cutting out a couple of oval shapes to tape over the part of the saddle where her sit bones are and see if there is any improvement in her comfort .

Something to remember on cushy soft saddles is that when her bum compresses that cushioning the uncompressed part is what is now contacting her tender areas. That is one of the reasons many people are more comfortable on hard leather saddles like Brooks
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Before investing in a different seat for your wife consider trying a
sheepskin/wool seat cover for the seat. While high on the geek
scale these sheepskin/wool seat covers (& bedding) have a long
history of comfort for the (beddridden) sore after surgry.

Sheepskin/wool covers & bedding are life saver in the medical
community to baby sensitive or injured tissue. Often healing
isn't possible without the use of sheepskin/wool covers.

Since there are several good places online to buy these covers
suggest you Google to find one to your perference.

Best of luck on your search, mate.
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Even though it was for used for this purpose in healthcare settings for a long time, sheepskin does not provide significant skin pressure relief.
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Which isn't to say that a sheepskin bike seat cover might not be comfortable. I would lean more towards a gel cover, if you want to go that direction.
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Originally Posted by slowandsteady
The Terry saddles have cutouts. But if you get a Brooks you don't need a cutout since they are designed properly to support the sit bones and keep unmentionables above the horn.
So why not use a hornless design then? The Brooks look pretty much like every other bicycle saddle out there.

If you want riding comfort--let me save you the twenty years it took me to figure it out: forget about conventional upright bicycles. Start with LWB recumbents, and work backwards from there.

This situation is difficult beause of the UTI aspects--but if an upright bicycle isn't enjoyable to ride, then spend the money for something different--don't buy the same thing over again, because it's just going to have the same problems.
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My wife like this-Easy seat like above-I turn the nose down

My wife likes this-guess it is the Easy Seat that 2manybikes mentioned. You can laterally adjust both sides independently . I don't care for it, but I guess I could get accustomed to it.
I noticed many years-25 or more-ago that my stream was pretty weak.I think I might have scarred up my urethra from years of riding crummy, hard saddles. Now I ride the softest saddle I can find, and I ride with the nose waaaay down. All that touches is my "butt bones".The soft tissues barely touch and I sure as heck don't have any significant weight on them.
Conventional saddles aren't/weren't designed with human anatomy in mind-at least not THAT human anatomy in mind. Lotta old school guys will say,in response to someone having a problem" it is because they have the saddle adj wrong." Pure BS! Saddles were designed to allow humans to tuck in,go fast, and pedal without being impeded by the saddle. When a saddle is designed to support all the weight on the "butt bones" you will sacrifice some pedaling efficiency since you are kinda "crushing" your gluteal muscles which are involved in pedaling.Designers decided to spread the weight over your perineum for pedaling efficiency. Unfortunately your perineum isn't suitable for this-too delicate with some important nerves and blood vessels.
Performance sells a noseless saddle for about $35.Nashbar sells the Trico sports saddle- the conventional saddle pictured-about $39. Not sure where we bought ther oddball saddle-wife loves it.
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Originally Posted by chephy
There are noseless saddles that have no horn at all, just two "pillows" for bum. Stuff like here: http://www.hobsonseats.com/products.htm . They get mixed reviews (a lot of people say the nose is essential for controlling the bike) but it may be worth a try for someone with medical issues.

I saw these seats in a couple of local bike shops. Perhaps you can find a bike shop around the area that carries something like that would let you test-ride it?
I actually had one of these easy seats and I used it for about a year. The seat is actually from the 1970's.

It's "OK". For me, it was mostly amusing. Now, I ride a traditional style saddle, so you can see that it was not something I thought I could not live without.

The good news is that it is "OK" and not some crazy impracticle idea.
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