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Old 12-01-06, 04:37 PM
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Bicycle shopping question

Hello,

I'm 39 and I live in Arizona.

I'm shopping around for a new bicycle now and I'm not having much luck finding a bike
that has all the features I want.

The things I want are:

1. Straight handlebars
2. A bike weight of about 20-25 lbs.
3. A large seat, not the pointed road bike type.
4. Some sort of shock absorber for the front and back wheels
5. A frame color I like
6. (optional) gear-changer dials, the ones that encircle the
handlebars.

I want the new bike mostly for paved roads, although there are still a lot of bumps on
the "paved roads" here.

I've been to 7 bike shops and haven't found any bikes that have all these features.

Would you have any ideas about how I could find a bike with the things I want?

Thank you,

John
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Old 12-01-06, 06:30 PM
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I think your weight choice is going to be your biggest drawback. A full suspension bike weighs a good amount. If you forego the rear suspension it might be easier. I assume you are wanting the suspension because you don't want the road shock? How about this;
Go to a bike shop and look at their hybrids (I hate saying that since I don't like hybrids but to each his own)
Most hybrids come with a suspension seat post and suspension fork. the seatpost will absorb alot of shock, and since you are on paved roads you really *don't* need rear suspension
Most hybrids also come with grip shifters which have the dials you are looking for (I think)
They also come with fatter cushier seats and flat bars.
... come to think of it, the Trek 7xxx FX series seems to fit the bill, maybe take a look at those.

This is just my opinion...
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Old 12-01-06, 06:38 PM
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The things I want are:

1. Straight handlebars

Why?


2. A bike weight of about 20-25 lbs.

That's pretty easy to do for a road bike. Not so much for a mountain bike, at least without shelling out lotsa coin.

3. A large seat, not the pointed road bike type.

Not sure what you mean by large. But big plushy seats are for couches, not bikes. Look for something firm, like a Brooks or similar.

4. Some sort of shock absorber for the front and back wheels

Not needed in many cases. How do you plan to ride?

5. A frame color I like

Fair enough.

6. (optional) gear-changer dials, the ones that encircle the
handlebars.

Grip shift? Why limit yourself? Check them all out.


Sound like you have a lot of preconceived notions about a bike. What is your experience level? Perhaps you would be better to research and ask here first before saying what you are looking for.
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Old 12-01-06, 07:08 PM
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For a full-suspension bike at that weight, you might be looking at something like this:

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/bik/237579346.html
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Old 12-01-06, 07:18 PM
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You could buy a bike and switch out to whatever saddle you prefer. I think grip shifts are more work on your wrist than trigger shifting is for your fingers with a flatbar bike. A steel frame will help with shocks.

Why not buy an Xmart full suspension bike and see how you like having the shocks front/back? The bike will be pretty heavy but it'll give you an idea whether this is something you want to spend more money on.
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Old 12-01-06, 09:27 PM
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What city/region in AZ are you if you are willing to say?
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You want incompatible things. You could build a bike like that, but it would cost at least $3000. A full suspension bike on pavement is a terrible idea. When you see a bump, rise up off the saddle a little bit and use your legs to absorb the impact. Suspension will make the bike heavy and sluggish on the road. Heck, I ride at ridiculously fast speeds on serious mountain bike trails with no rear suspension... All you gotta do is STAND UP.

Your weight requirement is waaaaaaaaay too low. But if you have lots of money, here's how you can have the bike you say you want - read the specs for all the full-suspension mountain bikes. Find one that weighs what you want and is a pretty color. Buy it and swap out the shifters to SRAM Grip shift. Swap the tires to slicks or 50/50 tires. Get a big fat saddle.

Good luck!
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Old 12-02-06, 01:00 AM
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You aren't going to find a bike to completely eliminate all road shock. Go troll somewhere else.
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Old 12-02-06, 02:57 AM
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If you are in Tucson go and talk to James at Arizona Bicycle Experts at 2520 E. 6th St.

It's a friendly, well run shop that has excellent customer service, and will help you find the bike that is right for you.

http://abecycling.com/
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Old 12-02-06, 09:34 AM
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The weight thing is killer, although you didn't really specify a price range you wanted to stay within.

With "The Sky's the Limit" pricing, the perfect bike for you is the Turner Nitrous (assuming you are under 165 pounds) built up with full 2007 XTR, a Rockshox SID World Cup, and a WTB Pure V Team saddle. For the wheels, I would recommend the Mavic Speed City wheels with Kenda Kaliente Tires.

Good luck finding a shop that stocks that! I'm sure many shops would be more than happy to build it up for you though
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Old 12-02-06, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DieselDan
You aren't going to find a bike to completely eliminate all road shock. Go troll somewhere else.
+1. That just can't be a serious post.
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Old 12-02-06, 10:23 AM
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I've never been to Tucson and I certainly don't know James, but I agree with Zieman. You need to find the right bike sales person. Once you find the right guy, all of your other conflicts will find a way to resolve themselves.
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You want a bike for riding paved roads.

Suspension forks add alot of weight and are designed for off roading over logs, rocks, ditches and hills. You can get a bike with a suspension seatpost to deal with the comparitively minor bumps on older paved roads. As a consumer you can put whatever seat or seatpost you want on a bike, but suspension seatpost add a few pounds to a bike. All suspensions absorb energy to dampen the force on the body. This absorption of energy slows a biker down. With suspensions some of your force when you pedal hard is taken by the suspension instead of the road. Maybe more comfortable on very bumpy road, but slower on all roads.

The lightest bikes are road bikes. The cross between road bikes and mountain bikes are called hybrids. Some hybrids lean more toward comfort, some more toward mountain biking, and few toward road performance. I recommend you test ride hybrids as the best compromise of features you want. The lightest hybrid that I have had riden is a Marin in their Alps line. The seats on these bikes are like on a road bike, because when you pedal fast you want a seat that allows movement and the wider seats are not compatible with that goal.
http://www.marinbikes.com/bicycles_2...s_ser_alp.html


Your biggest issue will be weight. The more comfort or off-road oriented a bike is the heavier that bike will be. You didn't share your reason for wanting a light bike. If it is to go faster then it is easier to lose the weight on your on body by riding alot and you will get faster. You find a 32lb bike that is great but for the weight and say it is too heavy. Better to just lose 5 to 10 pounds and the effect will be the same.
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1. Straight handlebars
Flat bar road bike
2. A bike weight of about 20-25 lbs.
Flat bar road bike
3. A large seat, not the pointed road bike type.
Never buy a bike with the seat in mind. Buy the seat you want after the fact. It is like buying a particular car because it comes with the kind of fuzzy dice you like. OEM seats are all junk anyway. It is just there because it would look funny without one.
4. Some sort of shock absorber for the front and back wheels
Totally unnecessary for the road unless we are talking cobblestones. What is your previous experience that you think you want this? Suspension adds a lot of weight and robs each pedal stroke of energy, causing you to have to pedal harder to go the same speed as a non-suspension bike. Buying wide tires provides shock absorption without robbing you of energy. And for truly massive potholes, either don't ride in potholes or just stand up or don't ride in potholes. Seriously, stop riding in the potholes.
5. A frame color I like
Not sure how anyone could possibly recommend a bike with such a vague request.
6. (optional) gear-changer dials, the ones that encircle the
handlebars.

These are called grip shifters. Not the most comfortable things around, but fine for weekend warriors and easy to understand.

I am partial to Fujis. Here are some recommendations.

Flat bar road bike. 25 lbs sans the suspension. Steel blue.

http://www.fujibikes.com/2007/bikes.asp?id=323&subcat=


Nicer components, carbon fiber fork that helps to absorb road noise, and 24 lbs Pretty silver.

http://www.fujibikes.com/2007/bikes.asp?id=322&subcat=


But here is a hybrid that has everything you want except the weight requirment. It is 30 lbs.

http://www.fujibikes.com/2007/bikes.asp?id=325&subcat=


Trail bike(whatever that means) basically a hybrid but without fenders, with suspension, 28.7 lbs, gold/black.

http://www.fujibikes.com/2007/bikes.asp?id=333

Also check out their comfort bikes.
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Above a certain price, I'm surprised they don't leave the seat off, just as they do the pedals.

Someday, when I'm real, real, rich, I'm going to have something very much like my Cypress, only titanium framed, of course. The original seat and suspension seat post are long gone, by the way.
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Originally Posted by DieselDan
You aren't going to find a bike to completely eliminate all road shock. Go troll somewhere else.
You've forgotten about the new gel-filled tires & inflatable saddles.
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Snoopy's been a busy boy. Not only has he asked the same question on at least one other cycling website, but he's looking for hot babes in Las Vegas, NV .

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