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Old 12-03-06, 08:46 AM
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would you buy anything by burley?

just wondering if recent events have tarnished the "burley" name and would you buy their only product now?
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Old 12-03-06, 08:58 AM
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Many companies started with just one person. If you're convinced that they're on the ropes & bad people, why not do a start-up & go into direct competition with them? Hella more fun than sour grapes.
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I just bought a Rockpoint jacket last week - that answer your question?
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I bought a nomad trailer this summer. and it was well worth the wait. When they go back to building bikes Yes I will take a hard look at them.
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I"d buy a foxhollow, if i could find one, and it was cheap.
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Old 12-03-06, 09:34 AM
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sour grapes? on the ropes? bitter party of one your table is ready...what are you getting at.
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Old 12-03-06, 09:42 AM
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I have the Burley Flatbed and the Burley Solo.

If I need another trailer and Burley makes what I want, I wouldn't hesitate to buy it from them.

I also like the looks of some of their bikes, particularly the Hudson, but it may be awhile before I'm in the market for another bike.
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Old 12-03-06, 09:56 AM
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cool thats what i wanted to know, love the trailers...also have some stuff for sale if any intrested...frame
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Originally Posted by steelboy
cool thats what i wanted to know, love the trailers...also have some stuff for sale if any intrested...frame
Ahhh, I get it now. You’re just checking to see if there is any interest in used Burly parts. The OP was worded so that most of us thought you were a troll. Obviously, you're an entrepreneur!

Schwinn went belly up twice in a decade. There bikes are pretty desirable on the secondary market. Burly makes a good product and I don't think their troubles will effect on them resale value in the long term. Good luck

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Originally Posted by CommuterRun
I have the Burley Flatbed and the Burley Solo.
How do you like the Solo? Did you consider a double like the d'Lite?

I'm going to pick a trailer up here pretty soon for my daughter and have been going back and forth between a Solo and d'Lite. In all likelihood, she'll be the only kid (though there's always a chance), but lots of people say go for the extra space. Also, the Solo has the smaller tires; does this make towing it more noticeable (assuming you've hauled one with the bigger wheels)? Thanks.
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Old 12-03-06, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by skiahh
How do you like the Solo? Did you consider a double like the d'Lite?

I'm going to pick a trailer up here pretty soon for my daughter and have been going back and forth between a Solo and d'Lite. In all likelihood, she'll be the only kid (though there's always a chance), but lots of people say go for the extra space. Also, the Solo has the smaller tires; does this make towing it more noticeable (assuming you've hauled one with the bigger wheels)? Thanks.
Get the d'Lite. It folds much more niftily so it's easier to fit into the trunk of an ordinary car.
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Well, I don't know about the folding thing, having never had a d'Lite for comparison. My daughter loves the Solo. It has plenty of room for one and it's narrower than the d'Lite, if that's a consideration. I have used the Solo as both a kid hauler and a covered utility trailer. I can easily tow the Flatbed or Solo with any of my bikes. The canoe gets soley towed by my Townie3. It's true that the Flatbed and d'Lite have 20" wheels, while the Solo has 16" wheels. There is noticably more drag when pulling the Solo compared to the Flatbed, but I attribute that to aerodynamic drag of the cover, rather than wheel diameter. At any rate, it's not a great deal more drag, especially not at the speeds I typically ride. It's noticable, but not unmanageable. By comparison I also have a Wike Woody Wagon that I use for towing a 14' 7", 75 lb. canoe, loaded for hunting, fishing or both, around. Now that's drag.

But hey, I'm not out to break Eddy Merckx's TT record with a trailer in tow.

By the way, I use the Flatbed almost everyday.

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Old 12-03-06, 08:19 PM
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Had a d'lite I bought it for $360 new and used it for a couple years then sold it for $270 Great resale value and the product is top notch.
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Would someone mind expounding on the "recent events"?
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Originally Posted by tehdely
Would someone mind expounding on the "recent events"?
And beyond that...what the heck is burley.
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Definition of Burley and summary of recent events: Burley until recently was a worker-owned cooperative in Eugene, OR that made child and cargo trailers for bikes, excellent raingear, interesting bikes and tandems, those trail-a-bikes you attach to grown-up bikes for kiddies who are too big for the trailer and too small to be riding long distances solo, and I'm sure numerous other items I know nothing about. The co-op apparently had some pretty bad apples in high-level positions who squandered money as if they worked for the DoD. Co-op was going to go down the toilet when some guy buys it. He lays off lots and lots of the workers (now employees), and announces they'll only be making the trailers. I can't speak for other areas of the country, but this is a big thing around here. Now you've got tandem afficionados in high mourning, really peeved parents who are scrambling to find a trail-a-bike for their 4 month old's future use, and an extremely altered market for high performance, breathable raingear that has generated locally some of the nastiest arguments of free/fair trade and offshore/domestic production I have ever heard.

My brother and I still plan to pool our resources and purchase a flatbed as soon as we have the resources to do so.
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Originally Posted by knewbike
Had a d'lite I bought it for $360 new and used it for a couple years then sold it for $270 Great resale value and the product is top notch.
Your experience is typical. I used to tell people that over time they paid for themselves. Total cost to you was $45.00 per year and, every time that you used it, you didn't have to pay a baby sitter.
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I got the Nomad trailer this summer, and very recently I bought the d'lite to carry my big dog around in. I will still buy stuff from Burley. To me, they make the best trailers, and the only ones I will buy.
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Took delivery of my Hudson just a few weeks ago. It is a great bike for touring. May be their last production Hudson.
What's up with the Burley website? They still are advertising their complete line of bicycles.
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Sure, why not? I also fly on US Air. I fear nothing.
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Sure, why not? I also fly on US Air. I fear nothing.
I call BS. Ride that 42cm bike of yours with no hands, Braveheart.
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Originally Posted by chipcom
I call BS. Ride that 42cm bike of yours with no hands, Braveheart.
Hah! You got me. But I am not afraid, so much as I don't care for road rash.
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Burley=Quality
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Originally Posted by mudskipper99
I got the Nomad trailer this summer, and very recently I bought the d'lite to carry my big dog around in. I will still buy stuff from Burley. To me, they make the best trailers, and the only ones I will buy.
I bought a Nomad trailer a few months ago. It's great, and I'd buy another even knowing about the company's problems. Sounds like they have a buyer with deep pockets and they're planning to refocus on their trailers which almost everyone agrees are great products. What's not to like?

Yes, with offshore labor at 1/10 the cost, they could be undercut. It's tough making things in the US these days. But I'd hope they'd adapt if they must, not just quit, and that their products and parts would continue to be available.

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Originally Posted by donnamb
Definition of Burley and summary of recent events: Burley until recently was a worker-owned cooperative in Eugene, OR that made child and cargo trailers for bikes, excellent raingear, interesting bikes and tandems, those trail-a-bikes you attach to grown-up bikes for kiddies who are too big for the trailer and too small to be riding long distances solo, and I'm sure numerous other items I know nothing about. The co-op apparently had some pretty bad apples in high-level positions who squandered money as if they worked for the DoD. Co-op was going to go down the toilet when some guy buys it. He lays off lots and lots of the workers (now employees), and announces they'll only be making the trailers. I can't speak for other areas of the country, but this is a big thing around here. Now you've got tandem afficionados in high mourning, really peeved parents who are scrambling to find a trail-a-bike for their 4 month old's future use, and an extremely altered market for high performance, breathable raingear that has generated locally some of the nastiest arguments of free/fair trade and offshore/domestic production I have ever heard.
Thanks donnamb for the summary! If there is a market for anything other than Burley trailers then those laid-off co-op members should set up shop elsewhere. It doesn't seem as if market demand has slackened off but, rather, poor management.
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