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Country of Origin Disclosure & Deception

Old 01-03-07, 06:56 PM
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Country of Origin Disclosure & Deception

I made a post a few weeks ago about the differences in prices from town to town. Especially interesting was that many people seemed to know you pay less for bikes in Arizona and California than in other areas. Anyway, while shopping I noticed strange practices on marking bike country of origin. And even stranger approaches to resenting it to customers.



Has anyone else noticed this?



Many shops seem to pull the Country of Origin stickers off bikes before they go on the floor.



Some shops only pull that sticker off the Made in China bikes; but leave it on the Made in Taiwan bikes.



Some shops, if you ask they tell you where a given bike is made.



Some shops give you the BS line ‘it was designed in the USA’ and then will not say where it was made. Some will say ‘we can not tell as some bikes are from here and others from there’.



I had a Specialized dealer tell me it was clear that bikes from Taiwan are better as everyone uses Taiwan on the upper bikes and China on the lower level bikes. Plus all the bikes you see in WalMart are from China.



Excluding ultra high end bikes; this makes sense to me that higher priced bikes are from Taiwan. I assume ultra high end hand made stuff can be built well anywhere.



Either way, no matter where a bike comes from, I would think the buyer has the right to know.



What practices do your local shops have? Display Courtney or origin? Hind it? Lie about it? Change the topic?
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Old 01-03-07, 08:38 PM
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OK, here is the thing with COO, coming from someone that is in production.

We use parts made from various countries other than the USA, however whe our products are finished, we are allowed to put the "Made in the USA" COO sticker on it for one reason....the final assy of the product was done in the USA.

This means that "Made in Taiwan" bike might have been assembled in Taiwan, but made orm parts from god knows where....and that's perfectly kosher. Or that China bike could have been made from American components.

The smart consumer looks at the parts on the bike, and the build quality of the frame, and then makes a decision from there. Using country of origin to make a decision is not going to make any difference.

Keep in mind China makes a large portion of the parts found on the bikes. Nothing against them, the Shanghai fab for my company is actually really good (I'm in electronics), the point being that just because one country makes a certain brand of junk, doesn't mean that all they make is junk.

Even here in the US we find junk products being made.....doesn't mean we can't make top notch goods either, just means a company or two are making crap....nothing more, nothing less.

I see the value in buying American made goods....however before anyone preaches this, they need to fully understand what that tag really means, and there is a lot of grey area allowed under current definitions of "made in xxxx".
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Old 01-03-07, 11:59 PM
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Well said. About the only US made part on any bike is the frame, and that is rare(much more rare than Trek owners believe)
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Old 01-04-07, 12:10 AM
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Those of you who've been around a while can remember the stuff that was said about "Made in Japan".... Now look at their complete domination of home-electronics and automobiles. Toyota just surpassed Chrysler as the top-3 automaker in the U.S. Honda exports more cars out of the U.S. than anyone else.
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