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Best Quality Bikes?
Is there a Toyota of the bike world? You know, some compny that makes higher quality bikes than the rest. I was thinking of bikes in the $300 range.
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Many many bikes are made in the same factory under the same parent company. Truthfully, for a nice entry level bicycle of good quality, step that figure up to at least $450. I like Fuji, Felt, and Scott bikes, but you can find perfectly good bikes made by Giant, Trek, Raleigh, Soma, Jamis, Salsa, and many others.
The Fuji Newest 2.0, Scott Speedster 50, and Felt F80 are good entry level bikes.
Many many bikes are made in the same factory under the same parent company. Truthfully, for a nice entry level bicycle of good quality, step that figure up to at least $450. I like Fuji, Felt, and Scott bikes, but you can find perfectly good bikes made by Giant, Trek, Raleigh, Soma, Jamis, Salsa, and many others.
The Fuji Newest 2.0, Scott Speedster 50, and Felt F80 are good entry level bikes.
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The only "good" quality bikes in the $300 range are mountain bikes. Mountain bikes are built in such huge numbers that a reliable bike can be sold for $300.
In that price range, a good neighborhood shop that services their bikes before and after the sale is far more important than the name on the bike.
Buy from the best bike shop in your neighborhood. Never buy from a discount store or a mail order/E-Bay operation. A good shop will make sure you buy the correct size bike, will assemble and tune your bike before delivery, and true the wheels. A good shop will also re-tune your bike and re-true the wheels free of charge after a few weeks of riding stretches the brake cables and shifting cables, and stresses the wheel spokes.
A $300 bike mountain bike that is skillfully assembled and tuned can provide a very high quality riding experience. By replacing the mountain bike tires with lightweight "slick" tires, you will have a bike that is well suited for use for commuting to work or school, and for trips to the grocery store.
But remember, a $300 bike purchased on E-Bay, by mail order, or from a discount sporting goods store is usually a big box of headaches. After you take such a bike to a REAL bike shop to be re-assembled correctly, and re-tuned correctly, you have spent another $75 or $100...buy from a real bike shop and avoid those headaches.
In that price range, a good neighborhood shop that services their bikes before and after the sale is far more important than the name on the bike.
Buy from the best bike shop in your neighborhood. Never buy from a discount store or a mail order/E-Bay operation. A good shop will make sure you buy the correct size bike, will assemble and tune your bike before delivery, and true the wheels. A good shop will also re-tune your bike and re-true the wheels free of charge after a few weeks of riding stretches the brake cables and shifting cables, and stresses the wheel spokes.
A $300 bike mountain bike that is skillfully assembled and tuned can provide a very high quality riding experience. By replacing the mountain bike tires with lightweight "slick" tires, you will have a bike that is well suited for use for commuting to work or school, and for trips to the grocery store.
But remember, a $300 bike purchased on E-Bay, by mail order, or from a discount sporting goods store is usually a big box of headaches. After you take such a bike to a REAL bike shop to be re-assembled correctly, and re-tuned correctly, you have spent another $75 or $100...buy from a real bike shop and avoid those headaches.
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Originally Posted by alanbikehouston
The only "good" quality bikes in the $300 range are mountain bikes. Mountain bikes are built in such huge numbers that a reliable bike can sell for $300.
In that price range, a good shop that services their bikes before and after the sale is far more important than the name on the bike. Buy from the best shop in your neighborhood. Never buy from a discount store or a mail order/E-Bay operation.
In that price range, a good shop that services their bikes before and after the sale is far more important than the name on the bike. Buy from the best shop in your neighborhood. Never buy from a discount store or a mail order/E-Bay operation.
Oh and some decent hybrids. Fuji Crosstown 2.0
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The reason I ask is my Trek 820 mtb ($300) just broke an axel. Its less than a year old. And I did not abuse it. (I have a thread in "bike mechanics".)
I am wanting a hybrid. There is a shop close by that sells Cannondale, I believe.
So, you all are saying I'm going to have to pay around $450 for a decent bike? I thought $300 was a lot a year ago when I bought this Trek as a step up from the $60 Walmart bikes that used to last me 3-6 months.
I am wanting a hybrid. There is a shop close by that sells Cannondale, I believe.
So, you all are saying I'm going to have to pay around $450 for a decent bike? I thought $300 was a lot a year ago when I bought this Trek as a step up from the $60 Walmart bikes that used to last me 3-6 months.
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Fix your Trek and ride it til it breaks again and fix it. You are going to replace a bike because an axle broke?
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Originally Posted by a77impala
Fix your Trek and ride it til it breaks again and fix it. You are going to replace a bike because an axle broke?
My friend has an 820 he HAS abused, and it's stood up to it pretty well. Sure, I have to do repairs on it after every trail we ride, but it at least stays together.
On the other hand, I had a 4300 that I snapped 3 axels on in less than a year. I rode it hard and I weighed 250 pounds at the time, but that's still a little much. I suspect the quality consistency on their lower-end wheels is iffy.
Replace the axel, and try again. Certainly cheaper than a new bike.
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If you want to spend $300 on a new bike, why not spend that money on a better rear wheel? The rest of the bike is in good order, and the rear axle broke. Broken rear axles were commonplace before the advent of freehubs and cassettes, which widen the bearing support. You have a freewheel now, which is screwed onto the rear hub. The axle broke from hard riding or a manufacturing defect. The LBS should replace it under warrenty.
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I don't consider $300 a lot of money for a bike. I don't think I've paid under $300 for a decent bike. My LBS sells the high end cross bike I just bought for $1369
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I've been wanting a second bike for a while. In case something like this happens, and something made more for the road like a hybrid.
I know this bike isn't the best, but $300 ain't no chump change. I had a Schwinn Collegiate that lasted me for decades. I'm just a bit disappointed.
Free axel/ free wheel - huh? I don't understand. Maybe you can help me make a more informed decision if I decide to buy a second set of wheels.
I know this bike isn't the best, but $300 ain't no chump change. I had a Schwinn Collegiate that lasted me for decades. I'm just a bit disappointed.
Free axel/ free wheel - huh? I don't understand. Maybe you can help me make a more informed decision if I decide to buy a second set of wheels.
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If you have a problem with a bike that is only one year old, check with the dealer. You might be able to get the wheel fixed under warranty.
With bikes under $1,000, the wheels are often the weakest link. Unless owners are careful to keep their wheels perfectly trued, and keep the tires at optimum PSI, the chance of a problem with a wheel is fairly high.
I would not buy a new bike because my old bike had a problem with a wheel. That would be like buying a new truck, because your old truck got a flat tire. Tune-ups, wheel truing, and replacement of worn and damaged parts is simply a routine part of owning a bike.
Most of my bikes are twenty or twenty-five years old. And, with reasonable care, they ought to last as long as I will...hopefully for another twenty years or so.
With bikes under $1,000, the wheels are often the weakest link. Unless owners are careful to keep their wheels perfectly trued, and keep the tires at optimum PSI, the chance of a problem with a wheel is fairly high.
I would not buy a new bike because my old bike had a problem with a wheel. That would be like buying a new truck, because your old truck got a flat tire. Tune-ups, wheel truing, and replacement of worn and damaged parts is simply a routine part of owning a bike.
Most of my bikes are twenty or twenty-five years old. And, with reasonable care, they ought to last as long as I will...hopefully for another twenty years or so.
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Originally Posted by sknhgy
Is there a Toyota of the bike world? You know, some compny that makes higher quality bikes than the rest. I was thinking of bikes in the $300 range.
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But if you are after one of the higher quality ones, you won't find one for $300 ... you might be more successful if you're willing to pay $3000! And believe me, bicycles for $5000 and $6000 aren't that unusual.
Around here, $300 will get you a top-end Walmart bicycle. $600 will get you a low-end LBS bicycle. And then they go up ... and up ... and up from there.
If you'd rather just fix your bicycle, which would probably be the least expensive option, take it in to an LBS and see what they can do. Or post a question in the Bicycle Mechanics forum here.
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Originally Posted by sknhgy
Is there a Toyota of the bike world? You know, some compny that makes higher quality bikes than the rest.
When you have a fewer number of parts to fail, the quality and realibility are higher.
For example, this bike has no derailleurs and no brakes.
In reality, all bike companies use the same components.
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Take a look at Fuji
Take a look at the Fuji line. Fuji has been building bikes for 110 years, and they are quality. I recently bought a Fuji Tourer, and it's the best bike I've ever had. I paid $950 for it, but I'm sure they have less costly bikes in their line. My bike was about $200-300 less than a comparable Trek.
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Originally Posted by sknhgy
Is there a Toyota of the bike world? You know, some compny that makes higher quality bikes than the rest. I was thinking of bikes in the $300 range.
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Originally Posted by Barabaika
In reality, all bike companies use the same components.
To OP: This is a good time of year to shop for a 2006 bike. You should be able to find a last years model MB or Hybrid at a reduced price.
Also, you did not mention what type of riding you wanted a new bike for.
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Broken axle?
Spend the $300 on a new wheelset, something "bomb proof". I'm guessing the "stock" wheels on the Trek were skimped on a bit...a lot of bikes do that.
New and high quality wheels will make that bike a "new" bike.
Spend the $300 on a new wheelset, something "bomb proof". I'm guessing the "stock" wheels on the Trek were skimped on a bit...a lot of bikes do that.
New and high quality wheels will make that bike a "new" bike.
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Originally Posted by edp773
Sorry, but I have to disagre with this. Bike manufacturers use components made by the same component manufacturers, but not the same components. Pacific Cycles, for instance, does not normally use Mirage, Alivio, or Sora and above components.
For example, there are two bike companies that have $300 bikes.
How can one company use good components and another bad if they both buy them from Shimano? I understand if the second company uses noname components that can fail.
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Originally Posted by Barabaika
You know the answer.
When you have a fewer number of parts to fail, the quality and realibility are higher.
For example, this bike has no derailleurs and no breaks.
In reality, all bike companies use the same components.
When you have a fewer number of parts to fail, the quality and realibility are higher.
For example, this bike has no derailleurs and no breaks.
In reality, all bike companies use the same components.
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Originally Posted by Barabaika
I wonder how it is possible.
For example, there are two bike companies that have $300 bikes.
How can one company use good components and another bad if they both buy them from Shimano? I understand if the second company uses noname components that can fail.
For example, there are two bike companies that have $300 bikes.
How can one company use good components and another bad if they both buy them from Shimano? I understand if the second company uses noname components that can fail.
You get what you pay for in most cases. My mountain bike, a single speed with no derailleurs and no rear suspension, would cost about $2500-3000 if you paid retail for it. I was working in a bike shop so I didn't pay full retail. I still paid a lot of money, and I couldn't get a deal on the frame which cost me $750. Was it worth it? It was to me. In truth, I could still have fun on a Redline Monocog 29er that cost $550 (the cheapest bike in the category) but it would be heavier, slower, more painful (no front suspension) and break more often.
A $300 bike has lots of cheap parts that will not last. You don't have to spend $2500 but $500-800 is a more reasonable price range for a bike that will be ridden regularly.
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Originally Posted by DieselDan
I don't see any breaks or brakes.
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