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Thinking about taking bike to Europe. Any information, please?

Old 06-01-03, 08:02 PM
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Thinking about taking bike to Europe. Any information, please?

Flying from Los Angeles/New York - to Amsterdam.

Sorry for such a common question, but what are the policies with bike shipping. How difficult is it?
Someone done it before? What airlines are friendly toward bicycles?
Any special hints need to be considered?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 06-01-03, 09:00 PM
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I thought you were going to cycle across North America?
Here is a good site that will help you.
https://www.bikeaccess.net/touring_db.cfm
 
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First thing to do is check with you're airline see how much they will charge you to take the bike along. Sometimes they will charge you ALOT.
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I have taken my bike three times to Europe.. All I suggest pack it well.. So far, I have always used a bike box. I packed it with items such as sleeping bags. Twice I shipped my bike by British Air and once on Air France. One trip they damaged it both ways- going and returing. Last trip I had to replace a derailleur hanger and several spokes. Other two times, It traveled pretty well, except once it went on to Tahiti without us. Got it back a week later.
Somehow I have been lucky. Not once charged extra, they added it to my aloted weight. I found foreign airlines accept bike boxes more readily than US carriers.
If you are a member of Adventure Cycling, Northwest ships the bike free of charge. Their compatriot airlines is KLM.
Knowing where you are going. I would study and end up in areas favorable to bike touring. Several guides to Biking in Europe are published.. About time I did such again. Been over two years. Biking in Europe is great.
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Originally posted by Gordon P
I thought you were going to cycle across North America?
Here is a good site that will help you.
https://www.bikeaccess.net/touring_db.cfm
Yes, I am still going to do that but in addition I will try to cycle from Amsterdam to Russia, passing Germany, Belgium and probably Finland.

But the question is, what's more practical to carry the bike over the ocean in the airplane or maybe simply buy another one there in Europe? There are THOUSANDS of bikes in Holland, so, they are probably not very expensive and it can be just a plain bike...

That's what I was wonder if anyone knew the prices.
Thanks for the link, I will check it out right now.
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Old 06-02-03, 12:23 PM
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Every time I have biked in Europe. the rentals are just not what I wanted to ride. Like my own stuff. I like road bikes. Friends who went over and rented usually ended up with more of a hybrid. Maybe they did not look hard enough. Go with touring group, often they arrange the bike you want before you get there.
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I meant just buying a used old bike, not renting one...
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If the bike you have is set-up for touring in North America then I see no reason to dump it and buy another one in Europe. If you plan on flying from Canada, most airlines will take the bike for free. Air Transat is an inexpensive Canadian charter that allows un-boxed bikes go for free. I've used them and had no problems at all. Accommodations can be expensive in Amsterdam; so putting a bike together for your tour in Eurupe may get expensive if you spend more then a few days running around preparing.
https://www.airtransat.com/EN/0_0.asp
 
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Wow, this is a great new about Canadian Airlines. It indeed may be more convinient to depart from something like Montreal or Ottawa.
Will consider that too, thank you.
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If you are packing light, consider getting bike luggage at groundeffects.nz (I believe, but do a google search on the company first- Ground Effects in New Zealand). You can get your bike in a soft bag and line it with cardboard, then check it as one piece of luggage. It will be much smaller in size than the luggage limit, but you will have to take your wheels, seat, pedals, and perhaps handlebars off the bike (or at least loosen the handlebars). Surround the luggage with hard, stiff cardboard, and put "FRAGILE" stickers and "BIKE BOX" all over the bag. Then for most of the European airlines, you can check one additional piece of luggage. When you get to point B, simply discard the cardboard and roll up the bike luggage (it's soft and light) and continue on your way, so bring bungee cords so you can roll it up and tie it to your panniers.

The bike should be free in most, if not all, circumstances. As long as you comply with the luggage allowances and keep within the guidelines I specified.

Good luck!


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It will be much smaller in size than the luggage limit, but you will have to take your wheels, seat, pedals, and perhaps handlebars off the bike (or at least loosen the handlebars). Surround the luggage with hard, stiff cardboard, and put "FRAGILE" stickers and "BIKE BOX" all over the bag.
Air Transat was great in that all I had to do was deflate the tires and turn the handlebars. They even had a nice big heavy plastic bag for depature and return and nothing was damaged. Someone told me that a bike is safer in a clear bag, as the baggage goons will put it on the top. Where as a box will get things piled on top of it resaulting in damage.

Montreal and Toronto will be your best bet for a cheep flight.

Koffee how did the $180.00 fee delema work out?
 
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as to buying a bike in Europe: it depends on what kind of bike you want. you can buy a basic heavy city bike with a rack for super cheap in almost any European city, but i perosnally would not want to tour on it - i want a "high-tech" touring or MTB that fits me and has my personal preferences (saddle, stem length, etc)...

as to transporting bikes: it used to be that it was free to fly with a bike on internaitonal flights but in the last year almost all airlines have instituted bike fees (probably because they are losing money and want to nickel and dime to save costs). anyway, airlines are charging between $40 and $85 ONE WAY for a bicycle with some exceptions... my girlfriend bought a ticket from Boston to Munich 2 weeks ago and searched a lot to find an airline that didn't charge: she bought with US airways and they do not charge IF it is in a hard case. so check the airline policy - and don't trust any old information.

as for packaging for flights: a cardboard "bike box" where you remove the pedals and wheels and loosen stem works well - just pad it with clothes or sleeping bag (or buy foam or packing stuff). you can get one for free at a bike shop or buy one for about $15 from the airline.
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Koffee how did the $180.00 fee delema work out?
It worked out fine in the end- I didn't have to pay the $180, since I was exactly 62 linear inches. I took the bike all the way to pieces, and tonight, I'm just finishing the last of putting my bike together. Tomorrow, I have plans for a nice birthday ride around Montreal, so we'll see how that turns out.

Thanks for the concern!

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Montreal that is in Canada?
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Yep. It's in Quebec.
 
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If you really like your bike, take it with you!

Step 1: compare different airlines, if you fligh with Air New Zealand or one of their alliance partners (United, i believe) you`ve got a weight limit of 2 pieces a 32 kg= 64 kg total!

Step 2: Ask your LBS about a bike box, they are probably glad to get rid of , the expensive way is to buy a special bag or box.

Step 3: Use a lot of foam or cardboard to protect the bike and seal the box with duct tape.

Step 4: Ditch the box at the airport, or take a locker for your bikebag

Step 5: don`t forget to pay me a visit on your way North!


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