Cyclist appearance and the message it sends
06-11-07, 07:56 PM
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I don't think they go "out of their way" to dress like that anymore than you go out of your way to dress the way you do. It's a taste thing. Their taste is (for lack of a better term) hippy-ish. I'm imagining yours is professional/clean cut? They aren't trying to be something they aren't, they are simply being themselves — its just different than you. No worries.
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06-11-07, 07:57 PM
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I got your message:
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"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
06-11-07, 08:10 PM
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Way to judge people by looks. A-
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I am sure we look just as weird in our standard, multicolored, weirdly patterned, stretchy, padded, cycling garb to non bikers as these two looked to you...
In our society today you have to be tolerent of difference, whether you want to or not, its a simple fact.
America isnt the America it was when I was a kid. Its different, and so are all of us.
You dont have to agree with their hippish style, you just have to tolerate it.
Its a free country afterall...
In our society today you have to be tolerent of difference, whether you want to or not, its a simple fact.
America isnt the America it was when I was a kid. Its different, and so are all of us.
You dont have to agree with their hippish style, you just have to tolerate it.
Its a free country afterall...
06-11-07, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JR97
Conforming to non-conformity.
Originally Posted by Cosmoline
Excellent!
It's funny, I'd love to see people riding the "Dutch bikes" you look down on. Here I see people trying in vain to fit groceries on full suspension mountain beasties.
It's funny, I'd love to see people riding the "Dutch bikes" you look down on. Here I see people trying in vain to fit groceries on full suspension mountain beasties.
This is the kind of bike she was on:
06-11-07, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CAG
I am sure we look just as weird in our standard, multicolored, weirdly patterned, stretchy, padded, cycling garb to non bikers as these two looked to you...
In our society today you have to be tolerent of difference, whether you want to or not, its a simple fact.
America isnt the America it was when I was a kid. Its different, and so are all of us.
You dont have to agree with their hippish style, you just have to tolerate it.
Its a free country afterall...
In our society today you have to be tolerent of difference, whether you want to or not, its a simple fact.
America isnt the America it was when I was a kid. Its different, and so are all of us.
You dont have to agree with their hippish style, you just have to tolerate it.
Its a free country afterall...
Back to the point: It is human nature to judge people. Whether that be by their clothes, the way they walk, the bike they ride, and, yes, their race. Some people overcome this, or at least claim they do, and see everyone neutrally. Others never get on top of it and become bigots. Most of us (I put myself here), eventually learn that stereotypes, even those with some basis in reality, are a poor substitute for understanding the individual.
That said, I pass a poorly-painted rainbow bike on my way to work every day. I love it (though I've never seen the owner).
06-12-07, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by gcl8a
It is human nature to judge people. Whether that be by their clothes, the way they walk, the bike they ride, and, yes, their race. Some people overcome this, or at least claim they do, and see everyone neutrally. Others never get on top of it and become bigots. Most of us (I put myself here), eventually learn that stereotypes, even those with some basis in reality, are a poor substitute for understanding the individual.
06-12-07, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by chipcom
I got your message:
06-12-07, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by vulpes
I disagree that that is human nature. It is learned behavior, not innate nature. Those of us that "overcome" it are simply unlearning what our parents, schools and society in general has taught us. In a saner society we would not be filled with prejudices from an early age to begin with.
06-12-07, 07:06 AM
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To each his own. They bothered you with their appearance and the bikes they ride but they didn't physically bother you. So go easy and mind your own.
06-12-07, 07:26 AM
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I thought this thread would be a little more broad. Can't we all talk about how when we see an OCP in full kit, that he looks retentive? What message do the naked bike riders send to the OP? Why do BMX'ers have silly slogans like "No Fear" written on their clothing; do they need the reminders?
Like Imus says (& I'm paraphrasing) you have to make fun of all groups to keep it from being discrimination. See, that's what I wanted to get out of this thread; can we stretch it a little here folks?
Like Imus says (& I'm paraphrasing) you have to make fun of all groups to keep it from being discrimination. See, that's what I wanted to get out of this thread; can we stretch it a little here folks?
06-12-07, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by slowandsteady
Ever notice that all the nonconformists look alike?
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06-12-07, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
Hot Topic. Where nonconformist kids can go to get the perfect nonconformist look...so they can stand out with the herd.
06-12-07, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by wrafl
To each his own. They bothered you with their appearance and the bikes they ride but they didn't physically bother you. So go easy and mind your own.
Well, one thing did bother me - the very unsafe bike the girl was riding. That bike should be banned! Fork crown snapping makes for plenty of time in the dentist's chair, if you're lucky!
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Originally Posted by vulpes
I disagree that that is human nature. It is learned behavior, not innate nature. Those of us that "overcome" it are simply unlearning what our parents, schools and society in general has taught us. In a saner society we would not be filled with prejudices from an early age to begin with.
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CDCF ... to test your theory that we can know something about a person based on their dress.
Why not post a picture of yourself and we can make guesses at what kind of person you are based on your looks. Then you can let us know how accurate our predictions are.
Why not post a picture of yourself and we can make guesses at what kind of person you are based on your looks. Then you can let us know how accurate our predictions are.
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"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
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Originally Posted by edp773
Someone has taken social studies in college!
). I'd be happy to inflict it on you if you're interested.
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CDCF ... to test your theory that we can know something about a person based on their dress.
Why not post a picture of yourself and we can make guesses at what kind of person you are based on your looks. Then you can let us know how accurate our predictions are.
Why not post a picture of yourself and we can make guesses at what kind of person you are based on your looks. Then you can let us know how accurate our predictions are.