Wal-Marts "Carbon" Bike.
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Wal-Marts "Carbon" Bike.
Wal-Mart is pushing a diffrent brand now (Corsa ) that has good components too. I was impressed. I'm not sure about the $1898.00 price though.
Link: https://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=5751048
Link: https://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=5751048
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Actually,it doesn't sound bad. <$2k for a full-carbon bike. It's Italian instead of Chinese,and it sounds like you have to assemble it yourself,so it might be a good one. Did you notice it was under the catagory 'toys'?
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Looks like its 26 lbs- Ill stick with steel for that weight.
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Seems that Walmart is working to improve its image. Lets hope so.
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I doubt it. They might be bolting parts together in Italy, but I would be shocked if the frame wasn't made in China. The parts are Shimano which, despite what Wal*Mart says, aren't Italian.
Three sizes and no geometry chart makes it a crap-shoot.
I can see why Wal*Mart would be doing this. While the vast majority of bikes are cheapies from Wal*Mart, the majority of the =profits= in bikes are made on the higher end product typically sold in bike shops. If this is an indication that Wal*Mart is getting serious about bikes, BD is going to be toast.
Three sizes and no geometry chart makes it a crap-shoot.
I can see why Wal*Mart would be doing this. While the vast majority of bikes are cheapies from Wal*Mart, the majority of the =profits= in bikes are made on the higher end product typically sold in bike shops. If this is an indication that Wal*Mart is getting serious about bikes, BD is going to be toast.
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haven't you heard? Italy is filled with Chinese immigrants, legal or not. It's made in Italy... but sometimes by Chinese living there :-D
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It is not a bad deal and seems like a decent bike. Carbon frame mostly Ultegra components with 104 for the less important parts. But still not a great deal. You can do considerably better from BD. I just picked up a brand new Bianchi Carbon Lugged 928 with SRAM Rival components and Mavic Kstrium Elite wheels for $1825 plus $50 for shipping on ebay.
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How many time this should be discussed?
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My god, what's this world coming to? Is Walmart now going to be running bike shops out of business? Why not, they ran the mom and pops out of business. Hell in another 25 years there won't be a need for any other store, just Walmart.
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It is not a bad deal and seems like a decent bike. Carbon frame mostly Ultegra components with 104 for the less important parts. But still not a great deal. You can do considerably better from BD. I just picked up a brand new Bianchi Carbon Lugged 928 with SRAM Rival components and Mavic Kstrium Elite wheels for $1825 plus $50 for shipping on ebay.
I don't doubt that Wal*Mart could sell a full carbon bike for under a kilobuck if it suited them to do it.
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How many time this should be discussed?
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...light=Wal-Mart
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...light=Wal-Mart
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...light=Wal-Mart
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I know that, just wanted to point to place where people have better knowledge about road bikes for valuable opinions and not just 'Looks like a great deal' from ones that don't know anything about road bikes.
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Nothing to worry about. It is expensive even at wal-mart for what it is. Even full ultegra would be expensive. Wally world made a huge mistake. Hard core or even avid cyclist will NOT look to wally for anything that has to do with cycling.
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Seriously is this a better deal than a PedalForce for example? Or what about going directly to the CF manufacturer as you can for titanium now. I think Enigma's are beautiful titanium bikes, but I don't know that I would not just go to XACD and tell them I want basically a bike finished to that level.
I think that this will happen to CF too, and the only CF manufacturers that will really get by are those that roll their own and provide noticeable improvements. Sure, there will be people who will continue to buy label CF frames just like they continue to buy chinese made Colnagos, but I think a lot of the more recent CF entries from major brands are not all that different from the cheaper ones direct from the manufacturers.
Walmart can certainly eventually underprice everyone else out there except for the manufacturers themselves, and I doubt they purchase enough CF items to prevent them from marketing other ways. If the CF makers are smart, they won't let themselves get into that position.
I think that this will happen to CF too, and the only CF manufacturers that will really get by are those that roll their own and provide noticeable improvements. Sure, there will be people who will continue to buy label CF frames just like they continue to buy chinese made Colnagos, but I think a lot of the more recent CF entries from major brands are not all that different from the cheaper ones direct from the manufacturers.
Walmart can certainly eventually underprice everyone else out there except for the manufacturers themselves, and I doubt they purchase enough CF items to prevent them from marketing other ways. If the CF makers are smart, they won't let themselves get into that position.
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Wow, not a bad rig for the money. Walmart is really turning up the competitive heat.
Check it out, that Corsa is made in Italy, NOT China.
It used to be that the specialty and niche players didn't have to worry about bumping up against Walmart, but that seems to be changing! This will definately cause the local LBSs grief.
Check it out, that Corsa is made in Italy, NOT China.
It used to be that the specialty and niche players didn't have to worry about bumping up against Walmart, but that seems to be changing! This will definately cause the local LBSs grief.
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I'm really surprised Wal-Mart is offering that bike. Looks pretty good! BUt, for 2 grand, I'd take a Lemond Versailles from a LBS anyday.
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The picture looks good, but the picture of the Denali looks good as well. The reality of the Denali is a another matter. I will have to wait til one comes in and see what they cheaped out on(My guess is the biggie would be the frame)
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The quote is: This bike was assembled by the hands of skilled Italian mechanics. That means it could have been manufactured anywhere.
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I wonder if....................naw,just a coincidence.
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You can do better at BD today, but if Wal*Mart is serious and has some success there's no way BD can keep up with the world's largest retailer. They don't have the purchasing power.
I don't doubt that Wal*Mart could sell a full carbon bike for under a kilobuck if it suited them to do it.
I don't doubt that Wal*Mart could sell a full carbon bike for under a kilobuck if it suited them to do it.