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Stronger Frame: Specialized Hardrock v. Gary Fisher Opie

Old 08-22-07, 05:06 PM
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Stronger Frame: Specialized Hardrock v. Gary Fisher Opie

Which do you think has a stronger and more durable frame? The Specialized Hardrock Sport with the A1 Aluminum...probably just the weak temper T0, v. the Gary Fisher Opie, looks like T0 6061 aluminum as well.
Any idea about how strong the chainstay and the seatstays are for each? Strong against high torque (climbing) and big drops and climbing and dropping?

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Old 08-22-07, 08:39 PM
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This is a close-up of the seat stay and the chain stay of the Gary Fisher Opie. For some reason the large welding seems to be weaker than if it were one piece. Does this seem right to anyone?
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Old 08-22-07, 10:02 PM
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Neither bike is designed for what you want. A Wahoo would be a better climber and the gearing on the Hardrock sport should be good for climbing. You need a free style bike or all mountain bike for big drops.

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Thought I would post this up too. The Spec. Hardrock has two sets of holes, one at the derailleur area where the seat stay meets the chain stay, and another on the seat stay. They are used for mounting racks and fenders, they also weaken the frame=holes=weaker frame
Can anyone confirm? Or should I bash the hell out of a Hardrock and hope for the worst?
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I'd roll with specialized for three reasons.

1. I've had an old specialized M2 frame that's taken 10+ years of abuse and feels brand new. My Cannondale lasted maybe half that long before it cracked. (I'm 200+ lbs)

2. Other Clydes here at BF whole-heartedly recommend the new Hardrocks.

3. I've seen a few GF bikes that have come back to the shop with frames that have failed under heavy riders. We're not talking a crack here but massive failures like chainstays ripping away from the bottom bracket shell, etc. Trek warranties them of course, but who wants to risk it?
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Originally Posted by v1k1ng1001 View Post
I'd roll with specialized for three reasons.

1. I've had an old specialized M2 frame that's taken 10+ years of abuse and feels brand new. My Cannondale lasted maybe half that long before it cracked. (I'm 200+ lbs)

2. Other Clydes here at BF whole-heartedly recommend the new Hardrocks.

3. I've seen a few GF bikes that have come back to the shop with frames that have failed under heavy riders. We're not talking a crack here but massive failures like chainstays ripping away from the bottom bracket shell, etc. Trek warranties them of course, but who wants to risk it?
My eyes and ears are open.
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I dunno what your budget looks like but the basic rockhopper comes in at about $500 and it has an m4 frame that is probably nicer than my decade old S-Works M2. Worth it in my opinion.

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