Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > General Cycling Discussion
Reload this Page >

Can you cut a wheel off with a bold cutter?

Search
Notices
General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

Can you cut a wheel off with a bold cutter?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-14-10, 06:35 AM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 346
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Can you cut a wheel off with a bold cutter?

Im gonna use sheldon browns method to lock my bike. Having the ulock around the tire. The only way they could get the ulock off is to cut through the wheel. I got a kryptonite fahgettaboudit mini ulock. Can you cut a wheel off with bolt cutters? I got touring bike wheels if that makes any difference I dont know.

Last edited by slipknot0129; 12-14-10 at 11:46 AM.
slipknot0129 is offline  
Old 12-14-10, 10:25 AM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Northern Nevada
Posts: 3,811
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
If it's a REALLY bold cutter, you shouldn't have any problem.
If you mean a BOLT cutter, a tool that cuts bolts, the answer is yes. It's aluminum with a rubber tire on it; you could probably worry your way through it with a Leatherman tool in a couple of minutes. A thief could also just take the wheel off, leaving it attached to the lock and walking away with the rest of the bike. Always lock the bike through the frame.

Last edited by Velo Dog; 12-15-10 at 12:37 PM.
Velo Dog is offline  
Old 12-14-10, 10:34 AM
  #3  
Cycle Dallas
 
MMACH 5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Land of Gar, TX
Posts: 3,777

Bikes: Dulcinea--2017 Kona Rove & a few others

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 197 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times in 5 Posts
Originally Posted by Velo Dog
If it's a REALLY bold cutter, you shouldn't have any problem.
If you mean a BOLT cutter, a tool that cuts bolts, the answer is yes. It's aluminum with a rubber tire on it; you could probably worry your way through it with a Leatherman tool in a couple of minutes. A thief could also just take the wheel off, leaving it attached the the lock and walking away with the rest of the bike. Always lock the bike through the frame.
The tension on a rim from the spokes makes cutting a wheel very difficult. Also, locking with the Sheldon Brown method, as mentioned involves attaching the wheel right behind the seat tube. The lock is inside the rear triangle. Removing the wheel will not release the frame.
MMACH 5 is offline  
Old 12-14-10, 12:45 PM
  #4  
Pavement Taste-Tester
 
Harutz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 104
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
How would cutting the wheel release the bike? Lock the bike through the frame AND the wheel...
I always lock mine through the frame and front wheel, because it seems the more likely to be snatched up by an opportunist.
Harutz is offline  
Old 12-14-10, 12:49 PM
  #5  
Cycle Dallas
 
MMACH 5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Land of Gar, TX
Posts: 3,777

Bikes: Dulcinea--2017 Kona Rove & a few others

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 197 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times in 5 Posts
MMACH 5 is offline  
Old 12-14-10, 01:00 PM
  #6  
Pavement Taste-Tester
 
Harutz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 104
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanks for the clarification
Harutz is offline  
Old 12-14-10, 01:28 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 346
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Harutz
How would cutting the wheel release the bike? Lock the bike through the frame AND the wheel...
I always lock mine through the frame and front wheel, because it seems the more likely to be snatched up by an opportunist.
I dont think my fahgettaboudit mini would fit on the wheel and frame.
slipknot0129 is offline  
Old 12-14-10, 01:47 PM
  #8  
Banned.
 
Mr. Beanz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Upland Ca
Posts: 19,895

Bikes: Lemond Chambery/Cannondale R-900/Trek 8000 MTB/Burley Duet tandem

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by MMACH 5
The tension on a rim from the spokes makes cutting a wheel very difficult.
I can (and have) cut spokes on a road rim with tin snips within a minute. Boltcuttters vs spokes and a rim? Not long at all!
Mr. Beanz is offline  
Old 12-14-10, 02:10 PM
  #9  
Cycle Dallas
 
MMACH 5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Land of Gar, TX
Posts: 3,777

Bikes: Dulcinea--2017 Kona Rove & a few others

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 197 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times in 5 Posts
Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz
I can (and have) cut spokes on a road rim with tin snips within a minute. Boltcuttters vs spokes and a rim? Not long at all!
Fair enough. I've never had anyone tamper with my locked bike, but I tend to go overboard.

Here is what Sheldon Brown had to say about it:
"Some will object that felons might cut the rear rim and tire to remove the lock. Believe me, this just doesn't happen in the real world. First, this would be a lot of work to steal a frame without a useable rear wheel, the most expensive part of a bike, after the frame. Second, cutting the rear rim is much harder than you might think. Since the rim is under substantial compression due to the tension on the spokes, it would pinch a hacksaw blade tight as soon as it cut partway through. Then there are the wire beads of the tire, also difficult to cut."

From https://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html
MMACH 5 is offline  
Old 12-14-10, 02:14 PM
  #10  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 346
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Im just gonna lock it how sheldon brown shows. If someone got away with it then I know they would have anyways. I do need something to lock my front wheel.
slipknot0129 is offline  
Old 12-14-10, 02:38 PM
  #11  
Banned.
 
Mr. Beanz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Upland Ca
Posts: 19,895

Bikes: Lemond Chambery/Cannondale R-900/Trek 8000 MTB/Burley Duet tandem

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by MMACH 5
Fair enough. I've never had anyone tamper with my locked bike, but I tend to go overboard.

Here is what Sheldon Brown had to say about it:
"Some will object that felons might cut the rear rim and tire to remove the lock. Believe me, this just doesn't happen in the real world. First, this would be a lot of work to steal a frame without a useable rear wheel, the most expensive part of a bike, after the frame. Second, cutting the rear rim is much harder than you might think. Since the rim is under substantial compression due to the tension on the spokes, it would pinch a hacksaw blade tight as soon as it cut partway through. Then there are the wire beads of the tire, also difficult to cut."

From https://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html
Ture! The way I see it, a lock is a deterrent. If somebody wants your bike, they are going to take it, a lock just slows them down. With the way people are nowadays, they'll take the bike with you on it!

Yes, the frame is the most expensive part and the rear wheel the second. Unlike the poster above, I'd lock the rear wheel for sure. A cable allows for the lasso type locking of all parts. But then you have to worry about the seat.
Mr. Beanz is offline  
Old 12-15-10, 02:44 AM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 16,771
Mentioned: 125 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1454 Post(s)
Liked 85 Times in 40 Posts
I loved Sheldon and his advice. But at times, he was off. The expensive parts are always moot, but for me, the second most expensive parts on a bike are the shifters/brake levers. A rear wheel might be $200, including the cluster. The brifters will be $400-$500 at least.

I agree with Beanz -- a small pair of bolt cutters will go through spokes like a hot knife through margarine. If the OP is that concerned, he should invest in a lock that will satisfy his fears... one that will go through the wheel, the frame and the post. Some people even use two locks, so they can secure both wheels without having to remove the front one every time they park the bike.
Rowan is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Darth Lefty
Commuting
14
09-28-16 03:02 PM
bstone
General Cycling Discussion
18
03-20-15 09:38 AM
jrickards
Commuting
8
09-15-12 03:04 PM
Adroitly
Commuting
19
07-02-10 03:14 PM
Noir Lethal
General Cycling Discussion
26
05-27-10 09:31 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.