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juggleaddict 08-19-08 09:53 AM

messenger bag
 
hey, i originally posted this in regional discussions, but nobody every seems to read those much ^^;

issue: i need a messenger bag, a large one. I've emailed 2 people about custom bags, one out of town (c0urt) and the other (lynn) who makes transit bags hasn't responded in 2 or 3 days.

does anybody know where i can get a custom bag around here (in atlanta)?
i kinda needed one today, it's going to make my ride really awkward with the backpack i have.

I'd rather not look at the big companies, i heard timbuk2's are uncomfortable, and some others are 150 clams, which i simply don't have.

any suggestions? substitutes? people you know?

bikeCarrot 08-19-08 10:11 AM

You need a custom bag in a day? They usually take a little bit to get made...

I have a Chrome Bag. The don't do custom (at least I don't think so0. Their website says that Outback Bikes at 1125 Euclid Ave NE is a dealer. I like my bag a lot.

chiefhoser 08-19-08 10:22 AM

pac designs

juggleaddict 08-19-08 10:51 AM

yea, i know they take a little bit of time to make, but i tried to get the ball rolling a week ago : ( i looked at Chrome, but the bag that works is too expensive (second from largest) checking out pac designs now

juggleaddict 08-19-08 10:55 AM

ugg, pack designs is CRAZY expensive.

why are messenger bags so overpriced? you may think they aren't and they're good bags, but 180 bucks for a bag is a BIT much O.o i could get bags on the bike for that much and not have to worry about it. i simply don't have that kind of cash

bhop 08-19-08 11:09 AM

I used to think they were overpriced too, before I got one (Bailey Works Super Pro). It was worth the $150 I paid for it. I use it every day, it's comfortable while on the bike and off, tons of pockets, water/sweat proof.

juggleaddict 08-19-08 02:32 PM

i found one on craigslist, timbuk2 extra large 3000 cu inches for 45 bucks, they say it's new with tags, it's not the nicest bag they make, but for a poor college student it should do : )

Kimmitt 08-19-08 02:45 PM

Pricing -- if you figure a 100% markup (more or less necessary to fund the retailing section of the operation), that means the bag costs $75 to make.

Figure $30-40 in materials. They use good stuff and a lot of it.

Then figure $30-40 in labor costs. That's 1.5 hours of a skilled US worker's time or a day or so of an Indonesian worker's time. Which is a reasonable amount of time, when you think about all the stitching, double-stitching, etc. etc.

Basically, you're getting something which is 5x as nice as an x-mart backpack, so it costs about 5x as much.

juggleaddict 08-19-08 02:52 PM

that's true, but even jansport and oakley bags aren't that expensive. but breaking it down does make it seem much less harsh.

martianone 08-19-08 06:34 PM

Check out an original DiMartini messenger bag.
I have the largest model, have used it for quite a while-
will hold a suitcase of beer. They are basic functional not
overly expensive bags.

rickyaustin 08-19-08 07:20 PM

Every now and then you can snag a Timbuk2 bag on here for like $40.

http://www.steepandcheap.com/

But it's pretty random and they go quickly.

You'll find cheaper prices with mass-produced bags. 'Custom' is a synonym for 'expensive'.

A buddy of mine just started a bike company and needed to make prototype bags, so I was able to get one of those at cost. $25 for a medium sized custom bag made of finished painter's canvas. If only I had time to paint the sucker.

alhedges 08-19-08 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by Kimmitt (Post 7304003)
Pricing -- if you figure a 100% markup (more or less necessary to fund the retailing section of the operation), that means the bag costs $75 to make.

Figure $30-40 in materials. They use good stuff and a lot of it.

Then figure $30-40 in labor costs. That's 1.5 hours of a skilled US worker's time or a day or so of an Indonesian worker's time. Which is a reasonable amount of time, when you think about all the stitching, double-stitching, etc. etc.

Basically, you're getting something which is 5x as nice as an x-mart backpack, so it costs about 5x as much.

100% markup is typical, but not from the factory. Typically, the factory manufactures the bag and sells it to the distributor for around 10% of the final retail cost. The distributor sells it to the retailer for 40-60% of the final retail cost. The retailer then marks it up to the final retail price. The materials - ballistic nylon, for example - are dirt cheap.


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