QUICK HELP! Better Bike? Better Components? Specialized Sirrus vs. Gary Fisher Wingra
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QUICK HELP! Better Bike? Better Components? Specialized Sirrus vs. Gary Fisher Wingra
I've taken 2/3 bikes I was considering on a test ride (Sirrus, Trek Fx - 7.2 & 7.3, not the Gary Fisher..yet)
I liked the Sirrus better than the Trek 7.2fx though)
First, let me say that all of these bikes are in similar price ranges (which is where i want to be .. $500 or less). Secondly, I know everyone will say "buy what you like/feels the best to you"....well, I can do my best at deciding this, but components, I have NO CLUE on what's good & what's not, so this is where I need your help.
I want a quick bike, reliable, used for fitness, bike paths & want a color that I actually like. I am selling my mountain bike for a hybrid/fitness bike (which is what i should've got in the first place).
2009 Specialized Sirrus..price was lowered to $499.99 this year, but now has Grip Shifts
Colors = Gloss White, Gloss Black & Blue
Specialized A1 Premium Aluminum frame, fully manipulated tubing, compact design, integrated headset, hourglass speedstays
Specialized Comp fork, A1 Premium Aluminum legs, Cr-Mo steerer
Body Geometry Comfort II grips, triple density gel
Shimano 8-speed drivetrain with Sora rear derailleur
Body Geometry Sonoma saddle
Alloy suspension seatpost
FRAME Specialized A1 Premium Aluminum, fully manipulated tubing, compact design, integrated headset, hourglass speedstays
REAR SHOCK N/A
FORK Specialized Comp, A1 Premium Aluminum legs, Cr-Mo steerer
HEADSET Specialized Mindset, 1 1/8" integrated threadless, sealed bearings, alloy 40mm cone
STEM Specialized 3D forged 6061 alloy, 31.8mm bar clamp
HANDLEBARS Specialized Event, A1 Premium Aluminum alloy, 580mm width, 31.8mm
TAPE/GRIPS Body Geometry Comfort II, triple density gel, alloy lock-on feature
FRONT BRAKE Cold-Forged 6061 alloy, 85mm linear pull w/ cartridge pads
REAR BRAKE Cold-Forged 6061 alloy, 85mm linear pull w/ cartridge pads
BRAKE LEVERS Shimano EF-50, EZ Fire, integrated w/ shift lever
FRONT DERAILLEUR Shimano T301, 31.8 clamp, bottom pull
REAR DERAILLEUR Shimano Sora, long cage
SHIFT LEVERS Shimano EF-50, EZ Fire
CASSETTE FREEWHEEL Shimano HG-50, 8-speed 12-25t
CHAIN KMC Z-51, 8-speed
CRANKSET Sugino XD, five arm, polished arms w/ chainguard
CHAINRINGS 48x38x28T
BOTTOM BRACKET Sport cartridge, square taper, 68 x 113mm
PEDALS Composite body, alloy cage w/ toe clips and straps
RIMS Alex S500, 700c, alloy double wall, machined sidewalls
FRONT HUB Specialized forged alloy, 32 hole, double sealed bearings, QR
REAR HUB Specialized forged alloy, 32 hole, double sealed bearings, QR
SPOKES Stainless 14g
FRONT TIRE Specialized All Condition, 700x28c, wire bead, 60TPI w/ Flak Jacket
REAR TIRE Specialized All Condition, 700x28c, wire bead, 60TPI w/ Flak Jacket
TUBES Specialized standard presta tube
SADDLE Specialized Sonoma, 155mm width
SEAT POST Alloy suspension, 27.2 w/ preload adjust
SEAT BINDER Specialized CNC, alloy, 31.8mm clamp
NOTES Chain stay protector, chain catcher, derailleur hanger, clear coat, owners manual
Gary Fisher Wingra $519.99
color = Metallic Black
Frame
Gold Series aluminum
Wheels
Alloy front hub/Shimano RM30 rear hub, Matrix 750 rims, 32h
Componentry
Shimano C102 front derailleur, Shimano Acera rear derailleur, Shimano EF50 shifters, Shimano M361 crank, Tektro V brakes | (Full Specs)
Suspension
Cromoly straight blade
MSRP
$519.99*
Sizes
SM (15.5") | MD (17.5") | LG (19") | XL (21") | XXL (22.5") | (Sizing)
Color(s)
Metalic Black
Sizes SM (15.5") | MD (17.5") | LG (19") | XL (21") | XXL (22.5") (Sizing) Frame Gold Series aluminum Fork Cromoly straight blade w/CLIX Headset Aheadset Slimstak, semi-cartridge bearings, sealed Pedals Nylon body, alloy cage Front Derailleur Shimano C102 Rear Derailleur Shimano Acera Shifters Shimano EF50, 8spd Cassette SRAM PG830 11-28T, 8spd Handlebar Bontrager SSR Riser, 25mm rise, 6d backsweep Stem Bontrager Approved, 15d Saddle Bontrager Select City Seatpost Bontrager SSR Wheels Alloy front hub/Shimano RM30 rear hub, Matrix 750 rims, 32h Tires Bontrager Satellite Plus 700x32c, 60 TPI Brakeset Tektro V, Shimano EF50 levers Crank Set Shimano M361, 48/38/28
can someone please help me out...which is the better overall components?
I liked the Sirrus better than the Trek 7.2fx though)
First, let me say that all of these bikes are in similar price ranges (which is where i want to be .. $500 or less). Secondly, I know everyone will say "buy what you like/feels the best to you"....well, I can do my best at deciding this, but components, I have NO CLUE on what's good & what's not, so this is where I need your help.
I want a quick bike, reliable, used for fitness, bike paths & want a color that I actually like. I am selling my mountain bike for a hybrid/fitness bike (which is what i should've got in the first place).
2009 Specialized Sirrus..price was lowered to $499.99 this year, but now has Grip Shifts
Colors = Gloss White, Gloss Black & Blue
Specialized A1 Premium Aluminum frame, fully manipulated tubing, compact design, integrated headset, hourglass speedstays
Specialized Comp fork, A1 Premium Aluminum legs, Cr-Mo steerer
Body Geometry Comfort II grips, triple density gel
Shimano 8-speed drivetrain with Sora rear derailleur
Body Geometry Sonoma saddle
Alloy suspension seatpost
FRAME Specialized A1 Premium Aluminum, fully manipulated tubing, compact design, integrated headset, hourglass speedstays
REAR SHOCK N/A
FORK Specialized Comp, A1 Premium Aluminum legs, Cr-Mo steerer
HEADSET Specialized Mindset, 1 1/8" integrated threadless, sealed bearings, alloy 40mm cone
STEM Specialized 3D forged 6061 alloy, 31.8mm bar clamp
HANDLEBARS Specialized Event, A1 Premium Aluminum alloy, 580mm width, 31.8mm
TAPE/GRIPS Body Geometry Comfort II, triple density gel, alloy lock-on feature
FRONT BRAKE Cold-Forged 6061 alloy, 85mm linear pull w/ cartridge pads
REAR BRAKE Cold-Forged 6061 alloy, 85mm linear pull w/ cartridge pads
BRAKE LEVERS Shimano EF-50, EZ Fire, integrated w/ shift lever
FRONT DERAILLEUR Shimano T301, 31.8 clamp, bottom pull
REAR DERAILLEUR Shimano Sora, long cage
SHIFT LEVERS Shimano EF-50, EZ Fire
CASSETTE FREEWHEEL Shimano HG-50, 8-speed 12-25t
CHAIN KMC Z-51, 8-speed
CRANKSET Sugino XD, five arm, polished arms w/ chainguard
CHAINRINGS 48x38x28T
BOTTOM BRACKET Sport cartridge, square taper, 68 x 113mm
PEDALS Composite body, alloy cage w/ toe clips and straps
RIMS Alex S500, 700c, alloy double wall, machined sidewalls
FRONT HUB Specialized forged alloy, 32 hole, double sealed bearings, QR
REAR HUB Specialized forged alloy, 32 hole, double sealed bearings, QR
SPOKES Stainless 14g
FRONT TIRE Specialized All Condition, 700x28c, wire bead, 60TPI w/ Flak Jacket
REAR TIRE Specialized All Condition, 700x28c, wire bead, 60TPI w/ Flak Jacket
TUBES Specialized standard presta tube
SADDLE Specialized Sonoma, 155mm width
SEAT POST Alloy suspension, 27.2 w/ preload adjust
SEAT BINDER Specialized CNC, alloy, 31.8mm clamp
NOTES Chain stay protector, chain catcher, derailleur hanger, clear coat, owners manual
Gary Fisher Wingra $519.99
color = Metallic Black
Frame
Gold Series aluminum
Wheels
Alloy front hub/Shimano RM30 rear hub, Matrix 750 rims, 32h
Componentry
Shimano C102 front derailleur, Shimano Acera rear derailleur, Shimano EF50 shifters, Shimano M361 crank, Tektro V brakes | (Full Specs)
Suspension
Cromoly straight blade
MSRP
$519.99*
Sizes
SM (15.5") | MD (17.5") | LG (19") | XL (21") | XXL (22.5") | (Sizing)
Color(s)
Metalic Black
Sizes SM (15.5") | MD (17.5") | LG (19") | XL (21") | XXL (22.5") (Sizing) Frame Gold Series aluminum Fork Cromoly straight blade w/CLIX Headset Aheadset Slimstak, semi-cartridge bearings, sealed Pedals Nylon body, alloy cage Front Derailleur Shimano C102 Rear Derailleur Shimano Acera Shifters Shimano EF50, 8spd Cassette SRAM PG830 11-28T, 8spd Handlebar Bontrager SSR Riser, 25mm rise, 6d backsweep Stem Bontrager Approved, 15d Saddle Bontrager Select City Seatpost Bontrager SSR Wheels Alloy front hub/Shimano RM30 rear hub, Matrix 750 rims, 32h Tires Bontrager Satellite Plus 700x32c, 60 TPI Brakeset Tektro V, Shimano EF50 levers Crank Set Shimano M361, 48/38/28
can someone please help me out...which is the better overall components?
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They seem pretty close to me... Don't see anything that would make me pick one over the other.
Sorry if that sounds like a non-answer...
Oh, I can't help it! Go with the bike that feels/fits the best. Honest, that's really what you need to do. The spec is pretty close on these. The Sirrus sounds like the lighter one if that helps at all.
Sorry if that sounds like a non-answer...
Oh, I can't help it! Go with the bike that feels/fits the best. Honest, that's really what you need to do. The spec is pretty close on these. The Sirrus sounds like the lighter one if that helps at all.
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test drove the Wingra today.... EXTREMELY impressed by it. It has the trigger shifting, which is better than the Sirrus grip shift & it rode so much nicer imo....very stable, shifted cleaner than the Sirrus & actually looked better. I LOVED the color of the new '09 Wingra....Metallic Black ftw.
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Are these at different bike shops? Component-wise they are pretty comperable so I would buy from whichever shop you like better. Freindly, helpful LBS staff is every bit as important to the bike-buying process as which saddle is squishier or which tires are 3 grams lighter.
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I know the Sirrus rides great, but the if the Gary Fisher is pretty much as good and comes with trigger shifters, I'd get that.
The shifters are the biggest difference I see between the two.
The shifters are the biggest difference I see between the two.
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I looked at the Sirrus when I was looking, I decided on the crosstrail because I ride more gravel trails and dirt trails than road at the present time. I know I was looking in the 600 to 750 range of bikes but All the sirruss I saw had trigger shifters.
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To the OP- if you haven't picked yet, consider the Jamis Coda. Assuming of course that you have any available locally. If not, go with the G.F.
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I know GF is usually a Mtn Bike company....are their fitness/hyrbid bikes pretty good as well or should I go w/ a brand like Specialized?
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Brands don't really matter when you are looking at bicycles in the price range. All the major manufacterers are having these frames built in the same factories by the same workers and the quality is identical. The geometries may be a little different from one bike to the next but neither frame will be 'better' than the other.
You may be overthinking this- I know it's a lot of money but both options are good bikes.
Most people buy their first bike to figure out what they want from their next bike. Either bike will be a good ride and you can always upgrade components later as you figure out what will be important to your riding style (utility, speed, comfort, reliability, ect.).
You may be overthinking this- I know it's a lot of money but both options are good bikes.
Most people buy their first bike to figure out what they want from their next bike. Either bike will be a good ride and you can always upgrade components later as you figure out what will be important to your riding style (utility, speed, comfort, reliability, ect.).
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Get something with drop bars and brifters! Can't see any advantage (other than marketing) to a flat bar road bike!
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I can't see any advantage to dropped bars unless you are riding more than 25-30 miles at a time on a regular basis. Flat bars keep you in a more comfortable riding position and offer more and less expensive options for shifters and brakes. (trigger shifters > brifters)
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The number 1 advantage of drop bars is that they offer half a dozen hand positions as opposed to the single hand position offered by a straight bar.
I much prefer brifters overs mountain style trigger shifters (grip-shifters are flimsy and unreliable, in my experience,) but this is a matter of preference. Brifters definitely offer higher performance/quicker shifting, but most people aren't out there racing...
I much prefer brifters overs mountain style trigger shifters (grip-shifters are flimsy and unreliable, in my experience,) but this is a matter of preference. Brifters definitely offer higher performance/quicker shifting, but most people aren't out there racing...
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If you are riding 30+ miles you probably need multiple hand positions but if your hands are getting sore/numb/whatever with flat bars on rides less than about 25 miles then your bike is not adjusted/sized correctly. If the majority of your riding is distance then drops/trekking bars are a must but for "around town" riding flats are more comforatble for most folks since you do a lot of stopping/starting and you have to be in the drops to efficiently utilize road style brakes.
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The number 1 advantage of drop bars is that they offer half a dozen hand positions as opposed to the single hand position offered by a straight bar.
I much prefer brifters overs mountain style trigger shifters (grip-shifters are flimsy and unreliable, in my experience,) but this is a matter of preference. Brifters definitely offer higher performance/quicker shifting, but most people aren't out there racing...
I much prefer brifters overs mountain style trigger shifters (grip-shifters are flimsy and unreliable, in my experience,) but this is a matter of preference. Brifters definitely offer higher performance/quicker shifting, but most people aren't out there racing...
I was looking at a flat bar road bike (Sirrus mainly) but went instead with a road bike configuration (Sequoia) instead. You are absolutely right about more hand position choices... +1