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I've had it! I'm getting a scooter!

Old 01-14-09, 01:25 PM
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I've had it! I'm getting a scooter!

i need transportation that is faster than a bicycle (and also because my legs get tired ya know) and DEFINATELY faster than the bus (8 hours on the bus on monday could have been turned into 1 hour on a scooter. 2 hours of not getting to where i needed to get to today, as by the time i got to the train station i was already too late, could have been 30 minutes of getting to and from where i needed to be).

so, i'm putting my paintings on ebay and hopefull, just maybe i'll end up with enough money to buy and little 49cc scooter.

i want a 4 stroke model. and i'd like it to have some sort of storage system, or for there to be a storage system of at least 4000 cubic inches available to attach to it.

so, what should i look at?
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Old 01-14-09, 01:43 PM
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and how do you find out if it's legal to use a 49cc scooter without a motorcycle liscence in texas? they seem to info on every kind of scooter but what i'm looking at.
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Old 01-14-09, 01:52 PM
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Motorcycle license shouldnt be too hard to get. My girlfriend just got a scooter last summer and took a class and then passed her test no problem. She has a Genuine Buddy 125CC though she was kinda timid in the beginning and i bet would prefer something a bit bigger now. (125cc maxes out around 50mph but gets near 90mpg )
49cc's are not that fast and you're almost like a bike having to get out of the way of traffic

I like these but i have no need for a scooter at the moment (thats a piaggio mp3)
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Old 01-14-09, 01:55 PM
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Get something larger than 49cc, like a 100 - 150cc, or you'll be back to going as slow as a bicycle.
And get a 2-stroke, it'll keep cars from tailgating you.
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Old 01-14-09, 02:04 PM
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the fastest i want to go is 30 mph.
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Old 01-14-09, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by goldfishin View Post
the fastest i want to go is 30 mph.
then you have no business riding in traffic on a motorized vehicle.
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Old 01-14-09, 02:14 PM
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is the genuine brand rattler any good? is it reliable?

and on a 40mph or less road i do!
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Old 01-14-09, 02:27 PM
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I just came the other way. Bought my new bicycle when the scooter died.

By NY law 50cc and under is a moped. Car license is good enough. Registration is 5$ and insurance about 50$. Anything over is a motorcycle. The moped is supposed to be governed to 25 MPH.

I bought a high performance 2-stroke that the dealer was willing to remove the governor from. I had a top speed of 45+ which is fine. In town I could keep up and really be a vehicle. On the open road I could take the lane until cars could pass safely or I had a wide enough shoulder to move onto. With wise route selection I could go most anywhere safely.

At 25 you're going to be like a bike. Cant keep up. Always in the way. Either p*ssing off the cars or they are practically brushing past you.

A 4 stroke probably wont do much better than 25 even if they take the governor off. I'd go electric bike first. Then at least you get bike advantages. Can ride paths and sometimes sidewalks park in bike racks or against convenient trees close to things, carry it inside sometimes,etc.

Find a 'cheater two stroke' or bite the bullet and go motorcycle.


oops - I'm not deleteing the above but texas sucks:

The state of Texas requires you to register and title your moped, scooter, or motorcycle, and it provides a detailed Web site with all the rules and regulations concerning mopeds and motorcycles.

With the operation of any street-legal moped, scooter, or motorcyle, a motorcycle license is also mandatory. If you are age 15 to 17, you'll need to take a safety course before you can apply for a motorcycle license.

Go electric bike or 65mph motorcycle. I see ZERO benefit in 49cc 4-stroke scooter, very slightly lower gas cost maybe.
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Old 01-14-09, 02:30 PM
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yeah, i'm thinking of going with a more powerful scooter. they're still $1000 cheaper than the cheapest honda motorcycle.

and are bajaj scooters reliable?
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Old 01-14-09, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by goldfishin View Post
is the genuine brand rattler any good? is it reliable?

and on a 40mph or less road i do!
30 in a 40 in town is the WORST. People will do dangerous things to get by you all ***in day!

For me was 40-45 in a suburban 45. Ten people will brush by you then somebody will actually stay behind you and somebody else passes you both!

Unlike a bike(usually) youre going too fast for most shoulders to be safe. One dead woodchuck and you're in bad shape.
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Old 01-14-09, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mackerel View Post
then you have no business riding in traffic on a motorized vehicle.
Oh, but it's OK being out in motorized traffic on a bicycle doing no more than 20MPH???
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Old 01-14-09, 03:06 PM
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Never heard of either of those brands you mentioned. I'm not saying that you might not find a bargain but you are at risk of getting what you pay for. I'm pretty sure you should get more quality and performance for your dollar with a motorcycle. Not saying you shouldn't get what you want just that if a scooter costs less than a motorcycle it's almost certainly lower performance and quite probably lower quality and reliablity.

I've never looked into above 50cc scooters because if I had to have motorcycle paperwork I'd have a motorcycle. I used to ride motocross, just never got into street bikes.

I'd stay with the big 4 japanese makers unless you just know youre getting comparable quality for less money. A friend has a suzuki burgman and loves it.
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Old 01-14-09, 03:08 PM
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check out Modernbuddy.com scooter forum with people who have experience on lots of kinds of scooters.

by the way.. don't go super cheap and get some POS for a couple hundred bucks you see at the car dealers.. cheap ass chinese made things that have like no reliability

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Old 01-14-09, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
Oh, but it's OK being out in motorized traffic on a bicycle doing no more than 20MPH???
Fair point for exactly what was said but I think the real issue is that there is very little to be gained by having a motorized vehicle under you but making it a motor that can't keep up with the other motors. Especially for this person in texas who apparently gets no administrative advantage for a legal 'moped'.

A bicycle is what it is. Where it belongs is arguable.
A 50cc 4-stroke scooter is an unnecessarily slow motorcycle.

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Old 01-14-09, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
Oh, but it's OK being out in motorized traffic on a bicycle doing no more than 20MPH???
I never said that.
And you know it.
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Old 01-14-09, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by goldfishin View Post

and are bajaj scooters reliable?
they're as reliable as an old 2-stroke Vespa.
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Old 01-14-09, 06:00 PM
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Before I got my bicycle, I was going to get a Honda Ruckus. It's 49cc, has a top speed of around 40mph, gets around 100mpg, and looks cool.. for a scooter.. if you want the more traditional 'Vespa style' but without the price, the Honda Metropolitan shares the same engine as the Ruckus. They're both just a little over $2k brand new, and have Honda reliability.

https://powersports.honda.com/street/scooters.aspx
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Old 01-14-09, 07:16 PM
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Did I click a link to Scooterforums.net by mistake?

Ride a bike or put on your big girl panties and get a real motorcycle.
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Old 01-14-09, 07:45 PM
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shouldn't you be asking this on a motorcycle forum? I think you would get better info.
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Old 01-14-09, 08:23 PM
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I have a Vespa, that I converted to burn ethanol/alcohol. 1979 PX200E, fun and can go very fast, I did a significant amount of engine work, I had it up to 100mph and it felt like it had more to give, but i was afraid the tires would go. Off topic, sorry.

I would consider getting an old cruiser and of of those motorized kits, those look fun and most seem to top out at around 35MPH. No special license needed for those here but maybe in texas. i actually know a couple kids who have them with a kill switch rigged up and just cut the enging if they think theyre going to get busted.
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Old 01-14-09, 09:43 PM
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Before I got my bicycle, I was going to get a Honda Ruckus. It's 49cc, has a top speed of around 40mph, gets around 100mpg, and looks cool.. for a scooter.. if you want the more traditional 'Vespa style' but without the price, the Honda Metropolitan shares the same engine as the Ruckus. They're both just a little over $2k brand new, and have Honda reliability.

https://powersports.honda.com/street/scooters.aspx
The Ruckus has a great reputation, unlike the 49cc scooters. Some of my vintage motorcycle buddies (guys who don't mind spending way more time than usual on maintenance) complain about the maintenance on the 49cc scooter - how good are you at maintenance?
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Old 01-15-09, 06:45 AM
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I wanted a scooter for commuting to NYC on days when bike and train are not an option, Instead I bought a 250cc 1998 Honda Rebel for $1100 last year. It was one third the cost of a good scooter and has been very dependable. I don't pay much attention to fuel mileage but I'm probably getting between 70-80 mpg.

One advantage to having a motorcycle are the bigger wheels ride much better and are definitely safer going through NYC potholes.
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Old 01-15-09, 10:18 AM
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how about a small dirtbike? I had one for commuting around town and it was great.
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Old 01-15-09, 11:17 AM
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If you're gonna motorize your cycling it would be money well spent to buy a 250cc motorcycle or
scooter for one person use. The total cost will come out less than a 49cc toy at the end of
the day while being 300% more useful than the toy.
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I've owned and ridden a 49cc Honda Ruckus for the past 2 years and I agree with the comments made here. It's too slow to be safe in most traffic situations and you are severely limited in your choice of roads as much of the time if you are traveling any distance you will need to ride on the shoulder in order not to be wiped off the face of the earth.

In addition, in my case I rode the scooter and neglected my cycling and now my legs have gone to mush. So I am going back to cycling (may commute after I build up my legs some more) and leaving the scoot alone.

If I ride anything like that it will be a larger 250cc minimum scoot or motorcycle.
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