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Unknown Cyclist 03-17-09 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by chico1st (Post 8546814)
front wheel. I could be that this isn't causing the flat its just that I looked at my latest 2 tubes and they seem to have punctures in that region.
If you think it is not causing the issue then that is that... what about that other pic with the wierd nipple holes.

Not sure what you mean by weird nipple holes, it looks like part of the edge of the hole is missing ?

If this is the case - is it inline with the spoke ? ie. does the spoke point to the middle of the missing area ?

If it does then the only thing I seen like that is where cheap machine built wheels which have been built on a machine that isn't properly set up for the rim and the tooling has eaten away some of the box when the nipple was inserted.

If this is the case, the wheel shouldn't have passed QC.

Could it be a manufacturing defect of the rim itself ?

:)

jack002 03-17-09 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by Unknown Cyclist (Post 8546603)
Erm...YOU have not 'people' :)

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=520919
Read it again. I actually said you were not a troll. I was wrong. ;)

Unknown Cyclist 03-17-09 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by jack002 (Post 8546916)
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=520919
Read it again. I actually said you were not a troll. I was wrong. ;)

:)

Well, I just wish you would make your mind up.....

chico1st 03-17-09 08:59 PM

so is the majority vote is that the rim is broken and needs to be replaced?

Metzinger 03-18-09 02:51 AM

Mangled, yes.
Broken, no.
Mount your tire and go riding. Keep an eye on the area for cracks maybe.
I've done worse damage to the exterior of my rims on Toronto's unpredictable sewer grates. If you can't get it to stop flatting, show it to your LBS.

seagullplayer 03-18-09 04:25 AM

I would not trash a rim over that. Might take a paint marker and mark the tire where the spot is and even the tube. Next flat look it over pretty good. You could always fill that notch in with a little epox and sand it down, you would never know it was there...

Unknown Cyclist 03-18-09 04:59 AM

I'd risk using it if it was a rear wheel, but not a front.

Damage like that can easily be the start of a fracture in extruded aluminium.

If you do use it, keep a close eye on it. :(

jack002 03-18-09 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by seagullplayer (Post 8550753)
I would not trash a rim over that. Might take a paint marker and mark the tire where the spot is and even the tube. Next flat look it over pretty good. You could always fill that notch in with a little epox and sand it down, you would never know it was there...

+1. JB Weld, thats the stuff. ;)

Retro Grouch 03-18-09 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by Unknown Cyclist (Post 8546871)
Not sure what you mean by weird nipple holes, it looks like part of the edge of the hole is missing ?

If the nipple hole isn't round it's pretty much all over. JB weld or epoxy isn't going to fix it because that's a stress riser. It's like ripping a piece of cloth - once it starts, it tears very easily.

You can fix it right once and be done with it or you can fool around with it. If you decide to fool around with it you'll almost surely be replacing that rim sometime in the future.

Unknown Cyclist 03-18-09 08:12 AM

No way is epoxy or JB weld going to improve the integrity of that rim.

It would simply be a filler.

Only ride on that rim if you are prepared to accept that it mght fail under hard cornering or hard breaking.

seagullplayer 03-18-09 11:55 AM

"It would simply be a filler"

And that is all you need. That is not a stress fracture, it is a dent you made using the wrong tool.

Unknown Cyclist 03-18-09 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by seagullplayer (Post 8552598)
"It would simply be a filler"

And that is all you need. That is not a stress fracture, it is a dent you made using the wrong tool.

erm....."allegedly" ?

jack002 03-18-09 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by Retro Grouch (Post 8551297)
If the nipple hole isn't round it's pretty much all over. JB weld or epoxy isn't going to fix it because that's a stress riser. It's like ripping a piece of cloth - once it starts, it tears very easily.

You can fix it right once and be done with it or you can fool around with it. If you decide to fool around with it you'll almost surely be replacing that rim sometime in the future.

Ok, my comment was not even about the area around the nipples, it was about the dent in the rim. It was to be used as a filler as seagullplayer said. Just a filler.

Re-read posts 31 and 33.

chico1st 03-19-09 02:55 PM

I got another flat with a puncture in the same place yesterday. I didnt epoxy it yet ill admit... I had to ride it somewhere and instantly got a flat.

But do you think that the epoxy will stop the flats or is the goal just to make the bead not pop-out?

I have this epoxy... will it work?
http://www.devcon.com/products/produ...m?familyID=175

Oh yeah and:

I've done worse damage to the exterior of my rims on Toronto's unpredictable sewer grates. If you can't get it to stop flatting, show it to your LBS.
all of my LBSs just want me to buy a new wheel... which i don't really want to do, they always want me to buy new stuff.

seagullplayer 03-20-09 04:37 AM

chico, I think the epox you listed would work, but I think a puddy type might be easier to apply. But if that is what you have I would try it. I did not see that is said it was sandable, but if it flows well you might not have to worry about that.

Is this the spot you are getting the flat? Or do you think the low pressure is the issue?

LBS always what you to buy something...

Unknown Cyclist 03-20-09 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by chico1st (Post 8561107)
I got another flat with a puncture in the same place yesterday. I didnt epoxy it yet ill admit... I had to ride it somewhere and instantly got a flat.

When you say 'in the same place' how do you mean ?

How do you know it's in the same place ?

Photo of the tube ?


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