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Old 06-05-09, 01:05 PM   #126
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Originally Posted by prathmann View Post
Not in my experience. You seem to be assuming that the line of cars will be moving pretty slowly after the light turns green. At the intersections I'm thinking of that's not the case and the line will soon be going well above typical cycling speeds. The cyclist in the line then has a choice - move over to the right and face the prospect that some of the cars passing him are likely to be turning right as they reach the corner and execute a right hook; or continue to claim his position in the lane and block the cars from passing. The first choice is usually unsafe if there's any significant fraction of right-turners and the second results in a sizable gap opening up - more than enough to let the traffic sensor conclude that it's time to switch the lights.
I'm not assuming anything, I am speaking from decades of actual experience. Unless you are sitting out in a long line of cars on a 50-65mph highway, or in a line of cars backed up a half mile, it's quite easy to match the car in front of you's acceleration from 0 to 25mph or faster. If you are in the two former cases, you should be looking for another route. If you are going uphill...oh well, sucks to be behind you.

Also, I NEVER yield the lane until I am through the intersection and it is safe to do so. If that means the guy behind me is delayed for a second or two, oh freakin safety comes first.
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Old 06-05-09, 01:15 PM   #127
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Originally Posted by Bekologist View Post
I think Heffzilla is a little confused (and maybe worked up) but states. All states allow bikes and cars to share lanes of travel.

splitting lanes is illegal in many states for motorbikes, but bicycles and cars are allowed to share lanes- the sticky wicket is the laws are written assuming the bicyclists would be going slower than the cars.

as traffic congestion rears up and bites american cities, passing congested traffic on the shoulder- illegal to ride a bike on a shoulder of a road? flippin' HILARIOUS! I bet THAT one gets enforced a lot. I can see the scenario, a cop pulls over a bicyclist riding on the shoulder of a 50mph road like those posted by 10 wheels, tickets him, makes him take the travel lane and then follows him for a bit to ensure he is slowing up traffic.

sometimes common sense really does rule the order of the day. if you want to show your solidarity to cars and get stuck in traffic jams go right ahead- Some of the motorists STILL HATE YOU, heffzilla. for riding on the road in the first place.
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