stapfam

The best and traditional pump to get --- is a frame pump as on panthers bike. But not all bikes can take them. So most pumps are mounted on a bracket next to the water bottle.

Then there is the quality of the pump and the PSI it can reach. On the MTB's I use Blackburn Mammouth pumps. Lots of air at each stroke but getting much above 60psi is a struggle. On the road bikes I use Topeak morphs. The Mini Morph on the lightweight and this will get the tyre to 120psi- but due to low volume on each stroke- takes a long time to get to it. Now have the Road Morph on the other bikes -but yet to use them in anger.

umd

you wouln't expect bike porn to have those things, just as you wouldn't expect to see clothes in regular porn...

HandsomeRyan

Here is what I usually carry on the bike:



The Trixie tool in the center is for my fixed gear/IGH bike w/ non-QR wheels.
The multitool is a generic Nashbar tool w/ a chain breaker and some allen wrenches.
the patch kit also has 2 chain quick links (1/8" for the FG chain and an 8speed link for the other chains and a presta-to-schrader valve adartor.

no motor?

I keep my minipump in the trunk bag. Out of site, but there if I ever need it again.

spinnaker

I would suggest a Topeak Road or Mountain Morph for the pump.

Leave the CO/2 at home (or in the stores) waste of space, weight and money IMHO, unless you are racing or want it as a backup to your pump.

Carry 2 tubes not one.

Carry a tire boot.

Carry a fiber fix spoke.


I question your choice of the Specialized HardRock. Are you planning on doing some actual mountain trail riding and off trail riding? If so, a good choice. If you are only planning on doing only MUP trail riding then bad choice. There is no need for all that extra weight and having something on the bike that could go wrong that you don't really need.

dprayvd

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SteelCity

The HardRock was recommended to me by many members of this forum because of my weight, I need a well built bike and the HardRock seems to be the favorite choice of the Clydesdales.

Most of my riding will be on the road, but those bikes, wheels, and tires seem to be made more for speed than strength like a mountain bike would be. The HardRock seems to be a good choice in stock form for a good price. Later down the line when I lose weight and figure out what type of biking I really want to do I could always buy a second bike.

"and having something on the bike that could go wrong that you don't really need." What else could go wrong on the HardRock and not other bikes?

spinnaker

[QUOTE=SteelCity;9236629]The HardRock was recommended to me by many members of this forum because of my weight, I need a well built bike and the HardRock seems to be the favorite choice of the Clydesdales.

Most of my riding will be on the road, but those bikes, wheels, and tires seem to be made more for speed than strength like a mountain bike would be. The HardRock seems to be a good choice in stock form for a good price. Later down the line when I lose weight and figure out what type of biking I really want to do I could always buy a second bike.

"and having something on the bike that could go wrong that you don't really need." What else could go wrong on the HardRock and not other bikes?[/QUOTE}

The more moving parts you have, the more that can go wrong. A suspension is a moving part. Contact The Historian. He is a Clydesdale and gets along on his FX just fine.

SteelCity

I see what you mean. I'd only have a front suspension tho, no rear.

The Historian is the person who recommended the HardRock to me first

spinnaker

But he rides an FX!

enine

Wouldn't the hybrid bikes with their heavy frame and wide tires support the weight as well as a hardrock?
Why you don't see pumps is they have gotten smaller, I bought this little kit https://www.parktool.com/products/det...=17&item=BTR-1 to get me started.

PaulRivers

1. You can certainly get a spoke wrench, chain tool, and extra chain link. I have that stuff on my road bike. However, I've only ever broken a chain once and never had a need for spoke wrench. Not a terrible idea, just saying. I would never ride without a spare tube, patch kit, etc, but my #1 piece of emergency equipment is my cell phone. There are a number of things that can go wrong on your bike that you really can't carry spares to fix (just try fitting an extra seatpost and rim into your saddle bag!).

2. I would agree with the other people who say to get a pump. I don't know why you don't see pumps in pictures (perhaps they're race bikes where they have a support team? Perhaps they take them off for the pic - does the person have a seat bag in the pic? And sometimes they're just hidden on the other side of the bike as they're mounted under the water bottle cage). A Topeak Mountain Morph pump is the easiest, most reliable, and easiest to use option you can get. There's a lot of things that can go wrong with CO2, especially for a beginner - you can accidentally let all the air out of the cartridge before it gets connected to the tire, I've read people's post who were surprised the outside of the CO2 canister got super cold and froze their hand, you can forget to buy a new cartridge after using it, etc etc. If you want to know all the pros and cons you should be able to search around the forum - there have been several heated threads about the topic just this year. But the bottom line is that a pump is dependable and doesn't run out of air. A tiny pump can be some work to use, but a decent size pump like the Topeak Mountain Morph can still be carried on your frame but is about as easy to use as your pump at home.

3. Regarding wheels and weight, they do make specifically stronger wheelsets fyi - I know the Mavic CXP33 has a reputiation for being a very strong rim that a lot of people use for cyclocross (jumps, offroad, etc). You would need to buy the version with a larger number of spokes (32? 36?).

4. Whatever bike you get, be sure to get slick road tires. I don't mean skinny, I mean the non-knobby kind that's still wide and takes a lot of air. Much better on roads and no problems on gravel, light offroad, etc.

tatfiend 

I carry pumps, spare tubes, tire patch kits and multitools on all of my bikes but am astonished at the number of bikes I recently saw at the local park with none of the above. Same with bikes running around town. The last two times I went to local bike related functions I had people borrow tire repair items. Once my patch kit and the second time my pump.

Per my observations lots of casual cyclists are not prepared to deal with any bike related malfunction while riding.

no_xqcs

This is what i have, It is the pedros chain tool. On one ride two riders rubbed tires and one went out of true so bad it was rubbing the frame, well someone used my tool and got the rim trued enough that it was ridable for the rest of the trip
It is a chain tool, 5mm allen, and has three spoke wrench sizes, also has a flathead on the end of the allen but i wouldn't trust it as it looks brittle
BUT you can't rotate it fully around the nipple without hitting other spokes so it may take a little longer but it still gets the job done

Tigerprawn

Blackburn Airstik SL

I've been very impressed so far. Definitely keep it on my bike (even when taking pictures! )

noglider 

On most rides, the only repair I prepare myself for is a flat tire. I sometimes bring tools for adjustments but not other repairs.

In my 34 years of "serious" cycling, I have never had a chain break on the road. I carried a chain tool when I toured, but I don't feel it's necessary for daily rides.

My usual tool kit bag contains:

- spare tube (for the first flat of the day)
- patch kit (for subsequent flats of the day)
- two tire levers

And I have a frame pump. I have a cheapie short one on my cheapie fixie. I don't know how good it is. I use a Zefal HPX on my other bikes. It's excellent.

I haven't had more than one flat per day in years, but I want to be prepared for that eventuality.

Oh, one more thing. I typically don't equip myself for a flat when riding a 26" inch-wheel bike, because I believe flats are less likely, and I tend to ride those bikes shorter distances.

cyccommute 

For the most part I agree that you'll probably never use a chain tool on the road. However, I've had two instances of having a chain break on someone else's bike. One incident was on a ride in town and it wouldn't have made much of a difference. But the other one would have meant a 5+ mile walk out of the woods in bicycling shoes...not something you really want to do. Trust me...I have the tee-shirt

A chain tool is one of those things that you can't easily work around if you absolutely need one. There are ways of McGuivering the pin in and out but they aren't that easy and the 5 mile walk might be quicker

I just carry one of these



I don't use it much but when you need it, it's there

noglider 

I guess your approach is to weigh the cost of carrying tools that you probably won't need. That's respectable. My approach is to weigh the likelihood of needing a tool. That's also respectable. And the difference explains why we end up with different sets of tools.

Chains breaking on the road is a very rare case. But since you have that nifty tool, there's little reason to prepare for it.

When I took my three month tour of Europe in 1981, I brought all kinds of tools, and I had spare spokes taped to my seatstays. I didn't break a chain or a spoke. I did have a host of tire problems, which turned out to be caused by my own stupidity.

Tigerprawn

I agree you'll probably very rarely need the chain tool, but I carry a multi-tool which has one so I'm happy. Also, if you ride with otheres who carry nothing... Well let's just say I've gotten quite a few "complimentary" beers over the few years I've been biking.

noglider 

Yes, there's that (helping others). I think I'll add a tire boot to my repair kit. Sometimes, tires rip, and I saw someone helping someone out with that on a big organized ride.

Panthers007

I carry a tiny Park Tool GP-2 glueless patch-kit. A VAR Super-Tyre Tool. And a big & heavy Topeak Alien II multi-tool. I doubt I'll ever need that gargantuan paper-weight myself, but it may come in handy for someone else. I want a "complimentary beer" too.

Oh - and my Silca Impero pump, of course.

SteelCity

Where do you get the water bottle holder with a pump mount on it?

umd

You don't. Pump bracket goes between bottle cage and frame.

Tigerprawn

^ UMD is correct

GTALuigi

i'm using this one, simply the best there is
i mounted it on where the normal bottle cage would go, as i prefer to have my actual bottle cage on the handle bar
https://www.topeak.com/products/Mini-Pumps/TurboMorphG