Cycling and hours spent in the Sun: Your reaction..
07-06-10, 01:51 PM
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I swear by it.
Now if only someone would make tights from the same material...
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I decided to go with a pair of SPF jerseys from Boure. I have not even tried them on or ridden in the past month due to a variety of factors including what I suspect is the flu.
07-06-10, 06:24 PM
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Lucky, I'm not allergic to anything so I just use lots of sunblock (SPF 50-75) and wear a hat or bandana. But I want to check out those long sleeve shirts and hats with neck protection.
Oh and yeah, light colored shorts, black Lycra is a no go in this heat.
Oh and yeah, light colored shorts, black Lycra is a no go in this heat.
07-06-10, 06:36 PM
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Ok, stay out of the sun, wear sunscreen, etc., etc, but what about this??
Symptoms and Health Risks of Vitamin D Deficiency
Symptoms of bone pain and muscle weakness can mean you have a vitamin D deficiency. However, for many people, the symptoms are subtle. Yet even without symptoms, too little vitamin D can pose health risks. Low blood levels of the vitamin have been associated with the following:
Causes of Vitamin D Deficiency
Vitamin D deficiency can occur for a number of reasons:
You don't consume the recommended levels of the vitamin over time. This is likely if you follow a strict vegetarian diet, because most of the natural sources are animal-based, including fish and fish oils, egg yolks, cheese, and beef liver.
Your exposure to sunlight is limited. Because the body makes vitamin D when your skin is exposed to sunlight, you may be at risk of deficiency if you are homebound, live in northern latitudes, wear long robes or head coverings for religious reasons, or have an occupation that prevents sun exposure
...and this Vitamin D deficiency has been in the news recently.
Which way to go?
Mike
Symptoms and Health Risks of Vitamin D Deficiency
Symptoms of bone pain and muscle weakness can mean you have a vitamin D deficiency. However, for many people, the symptoms are subtle. Yet even without symptoms, too little vitamin D can pose health risks. Low blood levels of the vitamin have been associated with the following:
- Increased risk of death from cardiovascular disease
- Cognitive impairment in older adults<LI sizcache="21" sizset="141">Severe asthma in children
- Cancer
Causes of Vitamin D Deficiency
Vitamin D deficiency can occur for a number of reasons:
You don't consume the recommended levels of the vitamin over time. This is likely if you follow a strict vegetarian diet, because most of the natural sources are animal-based, including fish and fish oils, egg yolks, cheese, and beef liver.
Your exposure to sunlight is limited. Because the body makes vitamin D when your skin is exposed to sunlight, you may be at risk of deficiency if you are homebound, live in northern latitudes, wear long robes or head coverings for religious reasons, or have an occupation that prevents sun exposure
...and this Vitamin D deficiency has been in the news recently.
Which way to go?
Mike
Avoid sun exposure and take this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cholecalciferol
I take a once-a-day multivitamin, and a calcium supplement, both of which contain it.
07-06-10, 07:53 PM
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Uh, ok... why are you telling bikeforums this? Denial? It seems obvious the condition is troublesome to you. Please go see a professional and have your condition at least examined by an expert. You're obviously not a dermatologist and no dermatologist is going to diagnose you over the net. It seems you're just wasting time trying to solve that problem here!
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Skin cancer skin cancer skin cancer. I use sunblock, the highest number, I think it's 90. Otherwise I would bake just like a baked potato.
And on the lips too. Otherwise the lips will blister something fierce. But nothing on my legs. It seems the sun never reaches my legs.
dc
And on the lips too. Otherwise the lips will blister something fierce. But nothing on my legs. It seems the sun never reaches my legs.
dc
07-06-10, 10:37 PM
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I'll chime in here. For the last five years I have worked about 90% outdoors in the direct sun, This is in Bakersfield CA where it is routinely well over the century mark in July and August. I try to start my work earlier in the day when I know its going to be that hot, but most of the time it doesn't happen. When I first started I would wear short sleeved shirts and sometimes remember to apply sun screen. I figured short sleeves was the way to go.
I have noticed that the local farm worker population is always in long sleeves. I figured I would give it a try. Amazingly when wearing a long sleeved, somewhat loose fitting cotton shirt I stay much cooler and I protect myself from the sun. So now all I have to do is apply sunscreen to my exposed skin.
Sounds like something the original poster my want to try.
I have noticed that the local farm worker population is always in long sleeves. I figured I would give it a try. Amazingly when wearing a long sleeved, somewhat loose fitting cotton shirt I stay much cooler and I protect myself from the sun. So now all I have to do is apply sunscreen to my exposed skin.
Sounds like something the original poster my want to try.
07-06-10, 10:44 PM
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I swear by it.
Now if only someone would make tights from the same material...
I swear by it.
Now if only someone would make tights from the same material...
07-06-10, 10:45 PM
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Skin cancer skin cancer skin cancer. I use sunblock, the highest number, I think it's 90. Otherwise I would bake just like a baked potato.
And on the lips too. Otherwise the lips will blister something fierce. But nothing on my legs. It seems the sun never reaches my legs.
dc
And on the lips too. Otherwise the lips will blister something fierce. But nothing on my legs. It seems the sun never reaches my legs.
dc
07-07-10, 03:49 AM
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I don't use any sunscreens, I just let myself get tanned. I don't like putting some chemical junk on my skin, I doubt very much that sun lotions and creams prevent skin cancer.
07-07-10, 05:35 AM
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So on longer rides I use sunblock and I never take my top off.
07-07-10, 06:26 AM
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If you get started researching sunblock (and many other medical topics..especially the use of statins) it is very difficult to decide what to do.
"Worldwide, the greatest rise in melanoma has been experienced in countries where chemical sunscreens have been heavily promoted The rise in melanoma has been exceptionally high in Queensland, Australia where the medical establishment has vigorously promoted the use of sunscreens. Queensland now has more incidences of melanoma per capita than any other place on Earth. (Garland, Cedric F., et al. Could sunscreens increase melanoma risk? American Journal of Public Health, Vol. 82, No. 4, April 1992, pp. 614-15"
Just as an example...
Mike
"Worldwide, the greatest rise in melanoma has been experienced in countries where chemical sunscreens have been heavily promoted The rise in melanoma has been exceptionally high in Queensland, Australia where the medical establishment has vigorously promoted the use of sunscreens. Queensland now has more incidences of melanoma per capita than any other place on Earth. (Garland, Cedric F., et al. Could sunscreens increase melanoma risk? American Journal of Public Health, Vol. 82, No. 4, April 1992, pp. 614-15"
Just as an example...
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07-07-10, 07:53 AM
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. ^......Was not Australia once in the news for the greatest loss of ozone overhead.. And A similar trend for Southern Chile.. And a related increase in cancer. It was reported field workers in the south tip of South America even wear clothing with SPF ratings.. Could this be related to the cancer epidemic suggested above. ?
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07-07-10, 02:32 PM
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There is an association between cancer and sunscreens. There has been no released research on the potential causes. Many suspect the chemical sunscreens. The new micronized TI and Zinc Oxide effects are unknown.
You might check with sierra trading post. They had a nice close out on Dr. Shade summer balaclava's. I can wear comfortably at temps to 90F. {haven't been riding in hotter temps yet this year}. Much better than sunscreens. Only down side is the mouth opening is a tad too small and it could use more elasticity around the face opening.
You might check with sierra trading post. They had a nice close out on Dr. Shade summer balaclava's. I can wear comfortably at temps to 90F. {haven't been riding in hotter temps yet this year}. Much better than sunscreens. Only down side is the mouth opening is a tad too small and it could use more elasticity around the face opening.
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There is an association between cancer and sunscreens. There has been no released research on the potential causes. Many suspect the chemical sunscreens. The new micronized TI and Zinc Oxide effects are unknown.
You might check with sierra trading post. They had a nice close out on Dr. Shade summer balaclava's. I can wear comfortably at temps to 90F. {haven't been riding in hotter temps yet this year}. Much better than sunscreens. Only down side is the mouth opening is a tad too small and it could use more elasticity around the face opening.
You might check with sierra trading post. They had a nice close out on Dr. Shade summer balaclava's. I can wear comfortably at temps to 90F. {haven't been riding in hotter temps yet this year}. Much better than sunscreens. Only down side is the mouth opening is a tad too small and it could use more elasticity around the face opening.
The problem with implicating sunscreen is this. People who are outside a lot in the sun use a lot of sunscreen. That is a simpler explanation of why these two things are correlated. The sun is a known source of skin cancer. Sunscreen isn't known to cause skin cancer. Is it these peoples excessive exposure to the sun? We have good cause to connect exposure to the sun to skin cancer, but we don't have good cause to connect sunscreen to skin cancers. It could simply be that they aren't using the sunscreen correctly or misapplying it. What about people who don't wear sunscreen outside... do we know their skin cancer rates? Maybe sunscreen increases risky behaviour with regard to sun exposure?
If people were putting on sunscreen in the dark, sitting inside all day and still developed the same rate of skin cancer, then we could probably have a sound case to implicate sunscreen.
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The only problem with that argument is that skin cancer rates have increased since the advent of sunscreens. Some indigents in sunscreens increase cancer. There are so many formulations that it's hard to know what is safe. Once a year a guide to safe sunscreens comes out and has good documentation.
We are agreed there is no cause-effect relationship. The CDC only gathers melonoma data and does not gather basal cell data. Skin doctors have different recommendations, but they seem to follow these general guidelines:
A - physical barriers are better than sunscreen
B - sunscreen of any kind is better than exposure
C - good sunscreens are better than popular sunscrdeens
D - most users do not put on enough sunscreen
E - most users do not refresh their sunscreen often enough
Almost makes you want to change to night riding.
We are agreed there is no cause-effect relationship. The CDC only gathers melonoma data and does not gather basal cell data. Skin doctors have different recommendations, but they seem to follow these general guidelines:
A - physical barriers are better than sunscreen
B - sunscreen of any kind is better than exposure
C - good sunscreens are better than popular sunscrdeens
D - most users do not put on enough sunscreen
E - most users do not refresh their sunscreen often enough
Almost makes you want to change to night riding.
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The only problem with that argument is that skin cancer rates have increased since the advent of sunscreens. Some indigents in sunscreens increase cancer. There are so many formulations that it's hard to know what is safe. Once a year a guide to safe sunscreens comes out and has good documentation.
We are agreed there is no cause-effect relationship. The CDC only gathers melonoma data and does not gather basal cell data. Skin doctors have different recommendations, but they seem to follow these general guidelines:
A - physical barriers are better than sunscreen
B - sunscreen of any kind is better than exposure
C - good sunscreens are better than popular sunscrdeens
D - most users do not put on enough sunscreen
E - most users do not refresh their sunscreen often enough
Almost makes you want to change to night riding.
We are agreed there is no cause-effect relationship. The CDC only gathers melonoma data and does not gather basal cell data. Skin doctors have different recommendations, but they seem to follow these general guidelines:
A - physical barriers are better than sunscreen
B - sunscreen of any kind is better than exposure
C - good sunscreens are better than popular sunscrdeens
D - most users do not put on enough sunscreen
E - most users do not refresh their sunscreen often enough
Almost makes you want to change to night riding.
Only mad dogs and Englishmen, go out in the midday sun. I really try to keep my riding outside the danger zone 11-5pm around here.
07-08-10, 04:54 PM
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I've started using one of these. Just remember to remove it from your face when entering stores.
https://www.buffwear.com/catalog/
https://www.buffwear.com/catalog/
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I've started using one of these. Just remember to remove it from your face when entering stores.
https://www.buffwear.com/catalog/
https://www.buffwear.com/catalog/
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