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supcom 10-28-04 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by Mueslix
I finally got my prepaid UPS label yesterday, but I didn't have my lock on me, so I'm sending it out today. Hopefully this exchange should be quick since I live so close to company headquarters (I could've gone down there and done an exchange myself in less time). They're saying send the lock, but I thought they only needed the cross bar.

If you look at the label, you'll probably see that the lock is going to some company in Illinois, not the Kryptonite headquarters. Kryptonite has almost certainly contracted the exchange work to someone with the manpower required.

Follow the instructions and send the entire lock and at least one working key. Don't forget to send a key. I tie strapped my keys to the lock to make sure they didn't get lost.

noisebeam 10-28-04 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by Raiyn
Here's my latest installment of the lock saga.

I just got this email today. Interesting as I registered the very first day (actually in the first 2hrs. of the email being provided on web page and replied the email they sent back to me withing 15min).

Seem that others have already recieved UPS return tags and others just a 'be patient' email, so I doubt they are going on a first registered basis.

Al

alanbikehouston 10-28-04 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by noisebeam
I just got this email today. Interesting as I registered the very first day (actually in the first 2hrs. of the email being provided on web page and replied the email they sent back to me withing 15min).

Seem that others have already recieved UPS return tags and others just a 'be patient' email, so I doubt they are going on a first registered basis.

Al

It seems they will not send the label until they actually have the locks that you need. So, someone registers one basic lock. That is an easy item to supply, and those labels are going out.

But suppose someone registered a New York Lock, a EVO 2000 Mini, two full size EVO 2000 locks, and three of the basic locks. That owner will have to wait until the 2005 version of each of those locks is on hand for shipping.

I'm still waiting for Ford to send me a replacement for my 1975 Pinto (with the self-igniting gas tank). Recalls take time.

catatonic 10-28-04 08:10 PM

hmm no wonder why i havent gotten mine yet, i have the kryptolok and the kryptolok LS on my return list.

Raiyn 10-28-04 11:38 PM


Originally Posted by noisebeam
I just got this email today. Interesting as I registered the very first day (actually in the first 2hrs. of the email being provided on web page and replied the email they sent back to me withing 15min).

Seem that others have already recieved UPS return tags and others just a 'be patient' email, so I doubt they are going on a first registered basis.

Al

No different than my story.

noisebeam 10-29-04 08:58 AM

So as I understand it the EV 2000 Mini is not yet released?

Al

qmsdc15 10-29-04 09:44 PM

Got an Email today saying call tags will be sent. I registered 2 mini evos september 30.

henrypscott 11-03-04 06:09 PM

Way back in September, right after the news broke bigtime, I wrote to Kryptonite about the exchange and received an email asking for information (address, lock type, etc). I sent that back right away, but did not hear anything back. About two to three weeks ago I decided to fill out the online form (it wasn't available initially), and I electronically received my printable mailing label on October 26th. I'm not sure if the web form I filled out recently or the email I sent way back in September generated the mailing label.

Regardless, I mailed my locks (three fairly old Kryptoloks) in the next day, October 27th (postage paid by Kryptonite!) and received my three exchange locks today, November 3.

Despite the long wait to get the mailing label, I'm very happy with this program. Once I sent the locks in I'd say this was a very reasonable turn around time. I hope everyone else ultimately gets good service as well.

flairpin 11-03-04 07:43 PM

GOD DAMN ****, I registered like back the day this news hit (September 17th or something), and I still haven't even been sent a stupid piece of postage, nor an e-mail telling me I will be sent one.

What the hell should I do? This is ****ing stupid. Why me? Why not some other *******....

Demolition 11-03-04 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by noisebeam
Seem that others have already recieved UPS return tags and others just a 'be patient' email, so I doubt they are going on a first registered basis.

I registered for the exchange on the day that it was announced (September 22 ?), but didn't receive confirmation until September 30. They finally sent the exchange instructions on October 14. I haven't received the "be patient" e-mail yet.

Meanwhile, I have a New York Lock gathering dust. I suspect that it'll be gathering dust for quite a while because I haven't heard of any Canadians receiving either their UPS labels or new locks yet. <sigh>

noisebeam 11-04-04 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by noisebeam
So as I understand it the EV 2000 Mini is not yet released?

Al

Has any one else who registered for an EV 2000 mini received their return label yet?

Thanks,
Al

supcom 11-04-04 06:18 PM

I received my replacement lock today. I had a Security chain and padlock and the lock was replaced with a similar padlock but having the new-style disc cylinder like the NY3000 U-lock.

I had registered my lock on the first day offered. I sent my old lock to Kryptonite about two weeks ago.

Having received my lock I can state that I am VERY pleased with how Kryptonite has responded to the issues with their locks. In today's corporate culture, it is rare for a company to acknowlege, take responsibility, and voluntarily correct problems with their products - especially when the remedy is as costly as this one. To do so as quickly as they have is unprecedented in my experience. Kryptonite and their suppliers must be putting forth a tremendous effort.

So, to Kryptonite, I say hats off! You are, indeed, making good on your promises and have earned some good press.

flairpin 11-04-04 08:26 PM

i swear, i as well registered my lock on the first day or second day they offered this. I haven't even been sent postage. Holy cow I am f.u.c.k.i.n.g. annoyed. not that i think it's great that they are replacing locks. but they hate me, I know it. ku***fufkeuckjfuekkcuek#$^%$@)!!!!!

Sullster 11-08-04 04:43 PM

I don't know if this has been posted yet or not. I found a link to the original 1992 article by Chris Juden on this little lock picking incident.

Actual page as it appeared in magazine:
http://www.ctc.org.uk/resources/Magazine/1992Lockit.gif

Easier to read format of the text:
http://www.ctc.org.uk/resources/Magazine/1992Lockit.rtf

By the way still waiting on my ups email for my ev disk lock. I'm in the database and considered a "HOT" (their words) customer since I sent in my info in Sept. Was told last Thurs. to call today if I did not yet receive my email. Called them and was told that I should never have been given a time frame for my lock. So far very unhappy.

Fredmertz51 11-08-04 07:00 PM

Got one of my new locks today(krypto long shackle), the other was backordered(10 yr old standard).

roscoecommuter 11-08-04 07:19 PM

I received my new Kryptonite locks today (actually, UPS came by on Friday, but no one was home to accept): an Evolution Mini and a KryptoLok Standard. It might have taken awhile, but now I have two really nice locks. Thanks to Kryptonite for making good on this bad situation.

Incidentally, I still see lots of tubular U-locks on the streets in Chicago. I was in NYC last week and was struck by the fact that these locks were not much in evidence. What are other people's observations about continued use of these vulnerable locks?

djtrackie 11-09-04 12:17 AM

I got my new lock today too... i sent in my Evolution 2000 and i got the new Evolution lock with the orange around the crossbar. It's pretty nice! I wish it came with the EZ mount bracket though..

Overall, I'm very impressed with Kryptonite, this experience made me a customer for life.

noisebeam 11-09-04 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by roscoecommuter
I received my new Kryptonite locks today (actually, UPS came by on Friday, but no one was home to accept): an Evolution Mini and a KryptoLok Standard.

Interesting about the EV mini. I registered the very first day the email was available and while I recieved a reponse email saying to be patient, I have not received any postal mail. I understood from this forum that it was because Krypto did not yet have the new models of these locks yet. So what is the story?

Al

noisebeam 11-09-04 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by djtrackie
I wish it came with the EZ mount bracket though..

Does it come with any frame mount method? Should I remove the small metal attachment bracket from my old lock (EV mini) before I send it back. I depend on a frame mount, which is one the the reasons I purchase and am waiting for a Krypto replacement instead of using a mini-Brute.

Al

lperkins 11-09-04 10:30 AM

I am a bit confused, I recieved the email from UPS which says

***Do not reply to this e-mail. UPS and the shipper will not receive your reply.

This notice alerts you the shipper requested a return shipment from . A UPS return label has been created and is in transit to the pickup location.


Message from the shipper:
To exchange your Kryptonite lock: Put your lock(s) and at least 1 working key into a box. Attach the UPS return tag and drop off at a UPS location.

What do I do now?

supcom 11-09-04 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by noisebeam
Does it come with any frame mount method? Should I remove the small metal attachment bracket from my old lock (EV mini) before I send it back. I depend on a frame mount, which is one the the reasons I purchase and am waiting for a Krypto replacement instead of using a mini-Brute.

Al

Remove the frame mount adapter before you ship the lock. Kryptonite does not need it back. Then you'll have a spare if your new lock comes with one. If it doesn't you'll still be in business.

supcom 11-09-04 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by lperkins
I am a bit confused, I recieved the email from UPS which says

***Do not reply to this e-mail. UPS and the shipper will not receive your reply.

This notice alerts you the shipper requested a return shipment from . A UPS return label has been created and is in transit to the pickup location.


Message from the shipper:
To exchange your Kryptonite lock: Put your lock(s) and at least 1 working key into a box. Attach the UPS return tag and drop off at a UPS location.

What do I do now?

It sounds like UPS has mailed you a return label. In my case, I received a second email with a URL for the return label image that I was able to print out to use.

chumpistry 11-10-04 02:01 PM

Hey, has anyone else received a second UPS return label notice after you already sent in your lock?

I registered my old NY U Lock pretty early, and got a return tag on 10/26; I returned the lock two days later, and per UPS tracking it got to the processing center in suburban Chiacgo on 11/1.

But yesterday, 11/9, I got a second return label, same email as the first one. I understand there are bound to be logistical errors in a recall this big, but I wonder how widespread this is.

Also, what's people's experience in turnaround time between when the processing center receives your lock and when you get a new one? I'm chewing down my nails having to lock up all day with the crappy Planet Bike cable lock that's my backup.

Raiyn 11-10-04 04:07 PM

Got my label last night via email, and I'm sending it out tonight.

noisebeam 11-11-04 09:22 AM

OK, I finally got UPS labels in email. (two of them actually each with different numbers, even though I registered for one lock, I wonder which to use ?)

Now I need to find a way to print one. I guess a trip to Kinkos - yes this is the first time in 10yrs I've needed to print something - I saved the .gif UPS label to a floppy, hopefully Kinkos can print this. For some reason I thought these would show up in US Post mail. Oh well - at least I am happy I have the labels now.

Al

winston 11-11-04 05:51 PM

I got my new Evolution 2000 mini in the mail a couple days ago. It didn't have a mounting bracket (neither the part on the bike or the part on the lock), so if you're using that mount, it's probably a good idea to hold on to it.

djtrackie 11-12-04 03:04 AM

yeah, the locks don't come with any kind of mounting bracket. If you have an EZ mount bracket, remove the spline before you send the old lock back in. When the new lock comes, just put the spline back onto the new lock.

KonaSmoker 11-12-04 12:18 PM

Credit where credit is due, I received the replacement lock today.

Kryptonite did right.

Raiyn 11-13-04 02:41 AM

News from Kryptonite

LOCK EXCHANGE PROGRAM UPDATE
November 12, 2004

We are happy to report that Kryptonite did begin this program in October and thousands of replacement locks have been sent out to customers in the last few weeks. Kryptonite continues to manufacture and ship new products to consumers on a weekly basis. The whole process of the Lock Exchange Program is a complex one with manufacturing and transportation all coming into play. We are building and air shipping the new locks to get them out to our customers as fast as possible.

For those of you who are still waiting to get your UPS postage paid label, here is an update:

U-locks (bicycle and powersports), Padlocks, Cables and Evolution Disc Locks (New York Chain and New York Noose) – replacement locks are being manufactured at this time and will be shipped to consumers as they become available.
Automobile locks – these locks are being manufactured now and will be shipped in December.
DFS and KryptoDisco – these locks are being re-engineered now and will be available to consumers in January.

If you have a DFS or KryptoDisco and do not want to wait until January to exchange your lock, we will be happy to exchange it now for one of Kryptonite’s “Molly” locks. The photo and description of this lock can be viewed at the below URL. It has a 3” shackle and may work well on some motorcycles. If you want this option, please send your name, shipping address and lock information to Kryptonite@irco.com with the subject “DFS/Molly Lock Exchange” or “KryptoDisco/Molly Lock Exchange”. If not, you are in the system to have your lock replaced in January with the upgraded version of your lock.

As further information becomes available we will post it to our website at www.kryptonite.com and be sending email updates, as needed.

We appreciate your loyalty and patience during this challenging time. Please know that we are working around the clock to get a new lock to everyone who has signed up for the Lock Exchange Program.

Regards,
Team Kryptonite

http://www.kryptonitelock.com/inetis...s_item&pgrp=20

vmeyer9085 11-15-04 12:55 PM

I returned my KryptoLok - both parts of lock & keys. In return I received the Evolution Disc Lock - this mini lock is nothing like the one I returned. Sent an email to Kryptonite on Thursday and today. No response yet...


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