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Old 11-29-10, 01:16 AM
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if i buy a bike off craigslist..

and the seller doesn't have the "papers" is there still a way to get it registered?
let's assume it really wasn't stolen.. ya...
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Old 11-29-10, 08:58 AM
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geej, Bill of Sale? At least it shows previous ownership.

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Old 11-29-10, 09:32 AM
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Registered for what purpose? If you're thinking about the manufacturer's warranty, you'll probably need to check the terms & conditions from the applicable manufacturer to see what (if anything) is covered on a second-hand bike. Just looking at Specialized as one example, they have the following statement in the warranty Q&As on their website:

"Our limited lifetime warranties are valid for the original owner of the bike only. A used bike will have no warranty."

YMMV depending on the manufacturer's terms.
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Old 11-29-10, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve in MA View Post
Registered for what purpose?
to register with the state to get that little registration sticker. I hear cops over here hastle u if u don't have the bike registered, and u could get fined and/or get the bike confiscated. also would like it registered in case it gets stolen for the little chance I might get it back. now that I think about it, i don't know if that last part really makes any difference..lol
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Originally Posted by geej View Post
to register with the state to get that little registration sticker. I hear cops over here hastle u if u don't have the bike registered,
and u could get fined and/or get the bike confiscated. also would like it registered in case it gets stolen for the little chance I might get it back.
now that I think about it, i don't know if that last part really makes any difference..lol
It's weird when you start thinking about your question doesn't it?

But seriously, if you are going to register the bike for warranty purposes, it is probably pointless.
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I suppose that would vary from state to state and you would probably do best to google the topic for your state and see what rules they actually have- if in doubt, you may have to call them up and ask. (My state doesn't have any such requirement, and I didn't realize others did.)

It isn't unreasonably to get a bill of sale for a bicycle. Also keep copies of any email correspondence or phone numbers for the person.
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Old 11-29-10, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by StephenH View Post
....It isn't unreasonable to get a bill of sale for a bicycle.
A bill of sale is all you need. Ask the seller to write one up for you before you hand over the cash, then ask to see his ID to check that the name matches. If he doesn't want to give you a B.O.S. or show you his ID, then the bike is stolen and you should walk away.
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I ALWAYS get a signed bill of sale for things I buy off of Craigslist. If it's a large purchase, say a bike, I write down their drivers license number. If it's stolen, I don't want to get in trouble for it.
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Old 11-30-10, 12:16 PM
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If 'registering' the bike is common in your area then you probably only need the serial number which is usually stamped into the bottom of the bottom bracket shell (lowest point on the bike frame). When you register it you will likely have to provide that and if the bike was registered and reported stolen they will find out then.

A lof of the time stolen bikes are easy to spot - high end frames and derailleurs with nutted axle wheels and a quill stem jammed into a threadless headset, for instance, or a carbon fibre tour-de-france quality race bike for $75. But people buy stolen bikes all the time through what appear to be routine transactions. Maybe you can get the serial number and have a search done before you buy. AN honest seller probably won't have a problem with that.
BTW - where do you live that police are checking every bike lookig for registration stickers? They sure don't do that in Ontario!
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Old 11-30-10, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by LarDasse74 View Post
If 'registering' the bike is common in your area then you probably only need the serial number which is usually stamped into the bottom of the bottom bracket shell (lowest point on the bike frame). When you register it you will likely have to provide that and if the bike was registered and reported stolen they will find out then.

A lof of the time stolen bikes are easy to spot - high end frames and derailleurs with nutted axle wheels and a quill stem jammed into a threadless headset, for instance, or a carbon fibre tour-de-france quality race bike for $75. But people buy stolen bikes all the time through what appear to be routine transactions. Maybe you can get the serial number and have a search done before you buy. AN honest seller probably won't have a problem with that.
BTW - where do you live that police are checking every bike lookig for registration stickers? They sure don't do that in Ontario!
Usally I do a search on the serial number, and call the manufactor of the bike, give them the serial number and asked for the history. How much it cost, what year and model. The bikes I got off CL and ebay I always check the stolen bike registry, and I call the maker with serial numbers too. Also, I have my LBS who does work on my bikes, record all my bikes S/Ns and the sizes..

IMO, can't do no more than that.
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Old 11-30-10, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by wiredfoxterror View Post
I ALWAYS get a signed bill of sale for things I buy off of Craigslist. If it's a large purchase, say a bike, I write down their drivers license number. If it's stolen, I don't want to get in trouble for it.
Ha, the last CL purchase I made for $50, the seller was a state trooper. I just gave him the $50 cash, thanked him for the bike, and off I went..
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thanks guys! turns out the licensing office has a form that basically says "i bought the bike but the seller did not have the registration papers"
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Originally Posted by cehowardGS View Post
Ha, the last CL purchase I made for $50, the seller was a state trooper. I just gave him the $50 cash, thanked him for the bike, and off I went..
... who acquired it from an arrest where it would have been left by the side of the road and the arrestee had stolen it on a prior occasion. Now you don't have a receipt other than a handshake as cash changed hands. Future quote from the State Trooper "What bike? Never seen this guy before in my life. Typical criminal element trying to pin it on a cop."

Incidently, on the receipt, be as specific as possible and record the serial number along with the description. That way it can be shown that the receipt applied to that specific bike...and not some other blue bike.
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Old 12-06-10, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tizeye View Post
... who acquired it from an arrest where it would have been left by the side of the road and the arrestee had stolen it on a prior occasion. Now you don't have a receipt other than a handshake as cash changed hands. Future quote from the State Trooper "What bike? Never seen this guy before in my life. Typical criminal element trying to pin it on a cop."

Incidently, on the receipt, be as specific as possible and record the serial number along with the description. That way it can be shown that the receipt applied to that specific bike...and not some other blue bike.
You could be right. However, on the last 5 bikes I purchased in the last 4 months, two of them were in the $500 range, I may or may not have reciepts. I do have emails setting up the deals. One I got off ebay, drove 40 miles to pick it up. I was givin a receipt, but I lost it. .That is recorded on Ebay, I think. Thrift store find, Schwinn Traveler in perfect excellent almost perfect condition. Lost the receipt. Litespeed Classic, son purchased.. I told him to run the serial number and call Litespeed with serial number.. He did all that and purchased it for me..Lemond Tourmalet, purchased that at a garage sale..Cash and go..No receipt.. I call Trek with the serial number..

Also, at my local LBS who works on all my bikes, I have them record ALL serial numbers and sizes of my bikes.

In this world of fast-buy-looking-for-deals you can only be but so safe. If one of my finds ever comes out to be a stolen bike, and I found out about it, it will QUICKLY be returned to police/or whoever..

I just missed a $50 Schwinn Peloton on CL.. Sheesh..

I did less than that when I was shooting pistols in competition and would sell some of my pistols at pistol matches.. Cash and carry. The one I purchased were registered in my name, and they were sold that way. One would say, supposed something happened and one of those guns turned up in the wrong place. Been there done that.. I just explained that I sold it at such and such a place. And that was it..

One can only be so careful..

Thanks for the feedback, and didn't mean to run it..
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