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Old 03-29-11, 09:26 PM
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Need to buy some pumps, best models?

I need to get some pumps. After some initial research, it seems like I should a separate floor pump for use in the garage and either a co2/mini-pump combo, or a frame pump and a co2 inflator head separetly.

Looking for what would be considered the best or higher quality pumps. These will be used my with my 29er and my wifes Giant Suede lifestyle bike, which has moderate pressure 26" tires.

Suggestions?
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Old 03-29-11, 09:59 PM
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Floor pump
Silica
Lenzyne

Frame pump
Lenzyne road pump, get the gauge hose assessory
Topeak turbo morph g (I like this one because it has gauge)

I don't get the micro inflator heads, I like an inflator that hold cartridges. You can get unthreaded cartridges for a lot less than threaded.
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What I use and endorse:

Floor pump - Park, forgot the model. I like the nice long hose, pressure gauge and dual head. Parts available for rebuild if and when it needs so it'll last.

Mini pump - I have two versions of the Crank Bros mini pumps. Once small, the other smaller. Both have sturdy aluminum bodies, dual valve heads and a switch to go between high pressure/high volume.

If I were shopping for new pumps, I would consider Lezyne. They look to be really good quality.
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Old 03-29-11, 10:28 PM
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Floor Pump, my favorite is far and away one from Bontrager.
For a frame pump, I love my Topeak Road Morph and would guess you'll get plenty of others in agreement on it.
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Old 03-29-11, 10:38 PM
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The Bontrager model I have is I believe the Turbo Charger WSD http://bontrager.com/model/04525
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HDClown, Topeak seems to be a favorite whether floor or on the bike at this time. I have a pair of old Blackburn frame pumps and a much older Schwinn branded floor pump all which still work, but they've been maintained. For a CO2 unit, buy one with a trigger control that uses standard cartridges.

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How do mini-pumps compared to full sized frame pumps? Are they effective and getting air into a tire? I've read comments on some that say 100 pumps could be 5 psi or less. Does it make more sense to have afull sized frame pump and that's it, or a mini + co2? Trying to figure out what makes the most sense for ability to carry on the bag or in the bag, and what makes the most sense for use out on the trail.
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For a frame pump, I use a Topeak Road Morph G (gauge). I like it, and it is reliable.

Floor pump, I have a Blackburn (nice one) and a cheap Pyramid plastic pump. Both have gauges and both work fine. My next floor pump, if I need a new one, will be a Lezyne. I tied one at the bike shop, and it was really nice.
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Old 03-30-11, 06:55 AM
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Floor pump - Topeak Joe Blow Sport

Frame pump - Blackburn
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For road bikes, the Lezyne Road Drive is very nice. I had three flats Sun (don't ask) and it worked very well. I would have needed a case of CO2 cartridges to do the job. Of course it takes a lot of strokes and you have to apply some force to reach riding pressure, so HTFU.

Just say NO2 CO2.
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Old 03-30-11, 11:58 AM
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Floor pump. I have a Specialized pump that I customized with a Topeak Smarthead. I can't say how it compares to something else because it's the only one that I've used for 15 years.

Frame pump. I bought a couple of Road Morphs last year after reading and hearing nothing but rave reviews. I haven't had the opportunity to personally use one and I'd just as soon that trend continues. One thing I don't like is they are ugly but, since I started riding recumbents, I'm using some bags that are big enough to hide it.

CO2. For years that's all that I carried on my road bike. It's by far the fastest and most convenient to use but I'd definitely recommend practicing at least once in the comfort of home. 16 grams is the perfect size for a road bike but not enough for the fatter tires on my recumbents.
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Originally Posted by HDClown View Post
How do mini-pumps compared to full sized frame pumps? Are they effective and getting air into a tire? I've read comments on some that say 100 pumps could be 5 psi or less. Does it make more sense to have afull sized frame pump and that's it, or a mini + co2? Trying to figure out what makes the most sense for ability to carry on the bag or in the bag, and what makes the most sense for use out on the trail.
This sounds like they were using a road pump to inflate a mtb tire. I used my lezyne road mini and it took about 100 pumps to get up to 70 psi on a 700c x 23. Remember this is for emergancy use.

I have used CO2 in the past but the problem is that you need to carry so many cartridges. You need it to find the hole, fill the tube, refill tube for bad patch job or poor installation or didn't look for the cause of the flat.

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Old 03-30-11, 05:52 PM
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I have used CO2 in the past but the problem is that you need to carry so many cartridges. You need it to find the hole, fill the tube, refill tube for bad patch job or poor installation or didn't look for the cause of the flat.
I've never ever had to use more than one cartridge.

I don't patch on the road. First I check the inside of the tire to be sure a shard of broken glass isn't still hideing. Then I inflate a new (or previously patched) inner tube by mouth to give it shape. I put the tube in the tire and the tire on the rim. I take time to check both beads all the way around to be sure the tube isn't pinched under the tire bead anywhere. Then I stick on a 16 gram cartridge and turn it loose.

I have 2 objections to mini pumps:

The first is the number of pump strokes and the amount of time they require. The laws of physics can't be violated no matter who makes the pump. Mini pumps don't move very much air volume so they are always going to take longer than a full length frame pump.

The second is the attachment to the valve. If you aren't careful and wiggle a presta valve around too much while you are inflating it, you can cause it to tear at the base of the valve. Mini pumps take more strokes so they increase your chances to tear the tube by the valve stem.

Actually, I think that a little self-knowledge is helpful in making a roadside inflation decision. One way of looking at it is that you don't have flats very often so the time it takes to fix it isn't very significant. Another way of thinking is that, having just had a flat, you're already likely to be aggrivated. If that's you you'll want quick and easy.
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floor pump

sks pump

http://www.sks-germany.com/?l=en&a=product&r=floor pumps&i=992191753745&RENNKOMPRESSOR
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Old 03-30-11, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Retro Grouch View Post
I've never ever had to use more than one cartridge.

I don't patch on the road. First I check the inside of the tire to be sure a shard of broken glass isn't still hideing. Then I inflate a new (or previously patched) inner tube by mouth to give it shape. I put the tube in the tire and the tire on the rim. I take time to check both beads all the way around to be sure the tube isn't pinched under the tire bead anywhere. Then I stick on a 16 gram cartridge and turn it loose.

I have 2 objections to mini pumps:

The first is the number of pump strokes and the amount of time they require. The laws of physics can't be violated no matter who makes the pump. Mini pumps don't move very much air volume so they are always going to take longer than a full length frame pump.

The second is the attachment to the valve. If you aren't careful and wiggle a presta valve around too much while you are inflating it, you can cause it to tear at the base of the valve. Mini pumps take more strokes so they increase your chances to tear the tube by the valve stem.

Actually, I think that a little self-knowledge is helpful in making a roadside inflation decision. One way of looking at it is that you don't have flats very often so the time it takes to fix it isn't very significant. Another way of thinking is that, having just had a flat, you're already likely to be aggrivated. If that's you you'll want quick and easy.
I agree with what you are saying but I don't always get it right the first time. I always have a patch kit and normally a new tube. The other law of physics is that pumps don't run out of air, unless you break a seal. And I prefer to ride home and not have to walk in cycling shoes.

But flats are infrequent and I normally help other people, rather than fixing my own. Also I won't waste a CO2 on some stranger on the MUP because that's at my expense where I will pump up their tire (or let them pump up the tire) because that is only elbow grease.
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I agree with what you are saying but I don't always get it right the first time. I always have a patch kit and normally a new tube. The other law of physics is that pumps don't run out of air, unless you break a seal. And I prefer to ride home and not have to walk in cycling shoes.

But flats are infrequent and I normally help other people, rather than fixing my own. Also I won't waste a CO2 on some stranger on the MUP because that's at my expense where I will pump up their tire (or let them pump up the tire) because that is only elbow grease.
I'm sure you know what a California Triple Crown winner is. A long distance rider that completes 3 double centuries in a year. Supposedly very expeienced and well prepared riders. I have done centuries with 3 different TC winners where I have had to lend them my frame pump after CO2 cartridges failed them for one reason or another. One guy went through 3 carts then had to ask for my pump. You never know when you can make a mistake or get a bum cart. CO2 is not dependable.

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I like Silca on the floor. Zefal HPX on the frame. Morph in the backpack, panniers or trunk bag.
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But flats are infrequent and I normally help other people, rather than fixing my own. Also I won't waste a CO2 on some stranger on the MUP because that's at my expense where I will pump up their tire (or let them pump up the tire) because that is only elbow grease.
I've given up my next-to-last CO2 cartridge to a stranger in need and I'd do it again in a heartbeat. At various times in the past I've also received assistance of various kinds from complete strangers who expected nothing in return. Either way I've always felt warm and fuzzy afterward.
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In my exp Joe Blow floors last the longest (any model). Maybe the luck of the draw? I like Blackburn frame pumps for no reason at all
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