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Old 07-02-11, 11:44 AM
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Ways to make Gary Fisher Montare more comfortable for general town riding.

I have a chance to buy one of these used, in good shape, with a rack, bags, lights, fenders and extra tires for around $500. Fits my budget and seems to fit my needs for a general town riding bike with carrying capabilities.

Is there a way to raise the bars so I'd be in a less hunched over position?

For a cushier ride on my rear and groin, how about a shock absorbing seat post and a different seat such as the Hobson Easyseat?

Here's the bike in question: http://bikepedia.com/QuickBike/BikeS...tare&Type=bike

All input/ideas welcome.

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by fishugly View Post
... Is there a way to raise the bars so I'd be in a less hunched over position? ...
How you raise the stem taller is you use a threadless stem extender. They're cheap. It is wise to use the medium thread-locking compound on the thread extenders bolts.
http://www.amazon.com/Dimension-Stee.../dp/B001C6DTZY


... How about a shock absorbing seat post and a different seat such as the Hobson Easyseat? ...
I have not tried it.
The usual problem people report when trying to use noseless seats on regular bicycle frames is that they tend to slide forward off the seat during riding, unless they adjust the handlebars down so they are leaned over more forward and putting more weight onto their hands.
You might like it anyway though.

Noseless saddles have a much better chance of working acceptably on bikes that use a frame with the pedals shifted forward, such as the Electra Townie (though there are others).
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Thanks, Doug!

Speaking of the Townie, that is another bike that has caught me eye. Looks comfortable! The Gary Fisher is simply easier for me to get though as there isn't a Spectra dealer near me. At any rate, there is a Townie in my price range...but I couldn't find any threads here about them (betting I wasn't using the search function properly). Are the Townies ok on gravel roads? Are there any threads about them here?
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Yep, change the stem, the seat, the seat post (consider a layback seat post) and the handle bars.

I strongly recommend these handlebars for easy upright riding........
http://www.amazon.com/Nirve-Cruiser-...632783&sr=8-16

Tip: on gravel roads the wider the tire the better i.e. 26 x 2.125 Crusier/MTB tires are ideal for loose gravel roads.
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Originally Posted by fishugly View Post
Thanks, Doug!

Speaking of the Townie, that is another bike that has caught me eye. Looks comfortable! The Gary Fisher is simply easier for me to get though as there isn't a Spectra dealer near me. At any rate, there is a Townie in my price range...but I couldn't find any threads here about them (betting I wasn't using the search function properly). Are the Townies ok on gravel roads? Are there any threads about them here?
The biggest dislike I have with the Townies is that they only come on one frame size. Even just for casual riding, frame size does matter at least somewhat in being comfortable on the bike.

On the far end of the spectrum, another possibliity is a RANS crank-forward bike such as the Fusion.
Complete bikes from RANS start at around 2X your budget, but they also sell framesets. You can then find a cheap craigslist hybrid or MTB locally and get all the other parts off that.
I have had one since 2006; there are some disadvantages but the comfort is excellent and yet they still work well for long rides--a quality that most other "flat foot" bicycles are not known for.
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Originally Posted by Nightshade View Post
Yep, change the stem, the seat, the seat post (consider a layback seat post) and the handle bars.

I strongly recommend these handlebars for easy upright riding........
http://www.amazon.com/Nirve-Cruiser-...632783&sr=8-16

Tip: on gravel roads the wider the tire the better i.e. 26 x 2.125 Crusier/MTB tires are ideal for loose gravel roads.
Thanks for the info. Do you happen to know of any photos of a "mountain" like bike with a set of bars like that?
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The biggest dislike I have with the Townies is that they only come on one frame size. Even just for casual riding, frame size does matter at least somewhat in being comfortable on the bike.

On the far end of the spectrum, another possibliity is a RANS crank-forward bike such as the Fusion.
Complete bikes from RANS start at around 2X your budget, but they also sell framesets. You can then find a cheap craigslist hybrid or MTB locally and get all the other parts off that.
I have had one since 2006; there are some disadvantages but the comfort is excellent and yet they still work well for long rides--a quality that most other "flat foot" bicycles are not known for.
Thanks, again. I checked out the Rans the other day. They look like a great design but a little too unconventional for me. I live and ride in a rather conservative community and if it ain't a regular looking bike, you get a lot of attention....that and some name calling, on occasion. I'd rather just go sight unseen when possible. Due to that, and the fact that my only bike is a BikeE, I basically have stopped riding.

I thought if the Gary Fisher didn't work out, the Townie might be close enough to "normal" that I wouldn't feel like I was in a circus around here. One thing for certain though; I need a comfortable seat. Had some perineum issues in the past while jogging hence the reason for asking about the Easyseat. Things seem fine now but I still cringe at the sight of a skinny seat....... yet I don't want a bike too unconventional looking. I'm probably asking for a lot.....
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I got the bike. Re raising the bars, if I wanted to keep a Mtn bike like set-up (rather than cruiser bars), is there any advantage to installing rise mountain bars instead of the threadless stem extender linked to in post #2? I see that these bars can be had for about the same price as the extender.
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Originally Posted by fishugly View Post
I got the bike. Re raising the bars, if I wanted to keep a Mtn bike like set-up (rather than cruiser bars), is there any advantage to installing rise mountain bars instead of the threadless stem extender linked to in post #2? I see that these bars can be had for about the same price as the extender.
There is little to no advantage to MTN bike bars unless you stand up to ride a lot.

Cruiser bars are best for sitting down riding.
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bit heavy on the universal generalizations there, buddy ..

a Figure 8 bend trekking bars are my new favorite, I have a couple types ,
from the Italian ITM company..
Though, I'm going to try some Ergon comfort Grips, German..

on my folding Brompton, GR2 will still fold, the same, I think..
GC 3 will not quite do the same, in folded down steering riser
as they increase the length of the curved bar end. more hand positions though..

unlike other grips and bar ends the transition is smooth between them.

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Old 07-19-11, 05:00 PM
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Though, I'm going to try some Ergon comfort Grips, German..
I like the looks of those grips! Those combined with some sort of MTN rise bars might work really well for my purposes.
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yup i have a bike like that one and I use ergon grips and a different bigger seat than it came with. you can also get a shock seat post so you feel bouncy.
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yup i have a bike like that one and I use ergon grips and a different bigger seat than it came with. you can also get a shock seat post so you feel bouncy.
What kind of shock seat post are you using? Any issues? I've been looking at various models and see very mixed reviews.
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it's just a standard one I got at a small bike shop for 20 dollars. like the kind you usually see on hybrid or comfort bikes. I like boucing up and down it makes me feel a lot better when it's not so hard.
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What you will notice with a suspension post is side to side movement. Some are probably worse than others. Some people don't like that, and others don't mind at all.
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i don't have any side to side movement, maybe yours is breaking or something. I only go up and down on it and its pretty stiff so i don't go down on it unless i hit a bump.
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Thanks for the feedback/help, everyone!

Back to getting the bars up so I'm not so hunched over.....my options thus far are threadless stem extender, cruiser bars, trekker bars and mountain bike riser bars. What about just using my stock bars with an adjustable stem like this: http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/190...p=305%20ANVAS8 ? What would the advantages and disadvantages of that be?

Just trying to figure out all my options.
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yeah if it were me i'd just get an ajustable stem that's like 110mm long or so and maybe a flat bar with 15 degree rise or so. that way I can just point the stem up and have a lot higher handlebar and also bring it back down if i wanna do that but if you have the steam point up straigt it's going to bring your bars closer to you which might not be comfortable so you might need that steering tube extender and try your old stem on it first. There's different lenths of stems depending on how far or how close you want the bars. There should be at least a slight bend in your elbows when your holding the handles.
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Originally Posted by Doug5150 View Post
How you raise the stem taller is you use a threadless stem extender. They're cheap. It is wise to use the medium thread-locking compound on the thread extenders bolts.
http://www.amazon.com/Dimension-Stee.../dp/B001C6DTZY
Does one have to use spacers with a stem riser like that?

http://www.amazon.com/Michelin-Aveni...bxgy_sg_text_b
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Originally Posted by chibibike View Post
yeah if it were me i'd just get an ajustable stem that's like 110mm long or so and maybe a flat bar with 15 degree rise or so. that way I can just point the stem up and have a lot higher handlebar and also bring it back down if i wanna do that but if you have the steam point up straigt it's going to bring your bars closer to you which might not be comfortable so you might need that steering tube extender and try your old stem on it first. There's different lenths of stems depending on how far or how close you want the bars. There should be at least a slight bend in your elbows when your holding the handles.
Thank you!
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So far, I have added an ISM Touring saddle, swapped the 5 deg stem with a 10 deg my friend gave me, added some MTN bike riser bars (couldn't pass them up...expensive bars I got for wholesale), and installed Ergon grips.

The saddle was the first thing I did and it just felt so wrong. It felt better with each of the changes and many adjustments though.....that and I have probably just gotten used to its weirdness. I want to try another noseless saddle....a Hobson and perhaps the Spider. I'm going to add some bar ends and a suspension seat post at a later date.
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