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Old 07-26-11, 05:00 PM   #1
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your pet peeves on cycling

Tell us your pet peeves on cycling. While as being a cyclist or seeing others out there. or any weird laws in your area can be one. or how people behave.

Here are my lists

- people (non cyclists) but the people who just ride a bike sometimes who walk their bikes down the street for no reason, when u can ride and get where u need to faster

- when non cyclists - more so adults who ride their department store bike on wrong side of the road when u are riding there and u have to move over

- motorists who do know how to drive past a cyclist, instead follow behind you forever

- traffic lights and stop signs - in general really stupid to stop when there no traffic

- when new roads or any hwy etc is repaved but the shoulder where u ride your bike is never done and left as it was before

- running out of water

- not seeing any hot girls riding their bikes ever , lol

-bells on a bike, when u don't need a bell unless on a city bike path.

- people who do not move out of the way on a bike path when u are coming to them even after they know u are there

so those are some of mine, love to hear your lists
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Cyclists who don't move over for runners. Yes, runners run against traffic often in the same area of the shoulder as a bike rides in. If you're riding a bike, move over. Running is harder than cycling and moving over takes almost no effort on the part of the biker. I will knock you off your bike if I'm running and we play "chicken". For the life of me I can't figure out why cyclists haven't figured this out.

Bikers who ride two abreast on narrow roads. Gives us all a bad name and may get you killed.

Cars that try to zip in front of you just to turn right and make you swerve around them.

Road Construction signs that force you out into traffic. They could place the signs a foot or two further out and give us room to go around them to the shoulder side. Would be safer for everyone.
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Tell us your pet peeves on cycling. While as being a cyclist or seeing others out there. or any weird laws in your area can be one. or how people behave. [...]
- people (non cyclists) but the people who just ride a bike sometimes who walk their bikes down the street for no reason, when u can ride and get where u need to faster
The top peeve on your list seems to require:
  • (1) (a) either infallible superhuman mind-reading ability; or
  • (1) (b) strongly suggests you waste an incredible amount of time stopping and interviewing all of those folks to verify they indeed have absolutely no reasons (not just that you disagree with their personal and private reasons they might not want to share with a stranger such as you); and
  • (2) you are qualified to and have conducted all necessary medical examinations and tests to verify their present physical abilities are at an adequate level which, according to your expert opinion, they should be able to attain.

With such refined powers and/or analytic skills, it's hard to believe you would have any peeves, much less a list.
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I will knock you off your bike if I'm running and we play "chicken". For the life of me I can't figure out why cyclists haven't figured this out.

Well if you're in California, you can expect to be getting your arse sued off!

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21954. (a) Every pedestrian upon a roadway at any point other than
within a marked crosswalk or within an unmarked crosswalk at an
intersection shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles upon the
roadway so near as to constitute an immediate hazard.
(b) The provisions of this section shall not relieve the driver of
a vehicle from the duty to exercise due care for the safety of any
pedestrian upon a roadway.



21955. Between adjacent intersections controlled by traffic control
signal devices or by police officers, pedestrians shall not cross
the roadway at any place except in a crosswalk.



21956. (a) No pedestrian may walk upon any roadway outside of a
business or residence district otherwise than close to his or her
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(b) A pedestrian may walk close to his or her right-hand edge of
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Impatient and distracted drivers are easily at the top. All of my non-leisure riding is in the city and just about everything that endangers or annoys me comes as a result of their lack of patience and/or attention to what they're doing.

Generally I have a high level of respect for pedestrians, and I regularly take the lane in order to force cars to stop at crosswalks when they want to blow right by. But sometimes pedestrians just stand there and won't go. That's really frustrating. Oh, and thanks for telling me I shouldn't ride on the sidewalk in a place where there is no alternative, even though I ride at walking speed and always yield to them.

Cyclist-related:
Using those super flashing lights on a bike path -- dude, you're blinding me, use the steady mode;
Whizzing by me on the right side IN THE BIKE LANE;
Not using lights;
Bashing other cyclists for not wearing a helmet;
Insisting I should follow every traffic law to the letter;
Stopping or riding the wrong way in the bike lane;

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- not seeing any hot girls riding their bikes ever , lol
Sorry, have to disagree with you here. Come move to Cambridge or Somerville, MA.
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Friends (non-cycling) who make comments to me like "You spent HOW MUCH for that bike???". They think the best way to buy a bike is to go cheap cheap cheap. But I know when it comes to bicycles, you get what you pay for. Besides, after raising my two kids entirely on my own and with no financial help, and getting them both through college, I'm FINALLY able to splurge on myself. Therefore, I'll spend whatever I want on my bikes, thank you very much, LOL!
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Just saw this today. I was riding on a narrow strip of highway, where cars had to slow down and watch oncoming traffic before passing me. Well on the other side of the street I see two cyclists riding on a pedestrian trail facing oncoming traffic. The trail is narrow the cars are going at a good clip. If you ride, please ride on the road, or don't ride at all! All it takes is hitting a bump on that ped trail to veer into traffic, become a fatality.

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The top peeve on your list seems to require:
  • (1) (a) either infallible superhuman mind-reading ability; or
  • (1) (b) strongly suggests you waste an incredible amount of time stopping and interviewing all of those folks to verify they indeed have absolutely no reasons (not just that you disagree with their personal and private reasons they might not want to share with a stranger such as you); and
  • (2) you are qualified to and have conducted all necessary medical examinations and tests to verify their present physical abilities are at an adequate level which, according to your expert opinion, they should be able to attain.

With such refined powers and/or analytic skills, it's hard to believe you would have any peeves, much less a list.
+1

I have to wonder what on earth is wrong with walking your bicycle down the sidewalk or side of the street. Sometimes that is the fastest and/or easiest and/or most convenient way to get where you're going.

It can also be a very welcome break to walk for a bit.
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- people who fail to keep their dogs fenced or on a leash (especially since there is a leash law in my state/county)
- redneck drivers who yell things and/or pass too close
- people who honk their horn when I'm doing nothing wrong (not just a beep to let me know they are there, but a longer accusatory honk)
- homophobic people who think that cyclists must be gay since they wear spandex (I used to be one of these people)
- on a group ride: people boxing me in on the left side so that I can't pass, especially on a hill when there are slow climbers in front of me
- people continuing to ride two or more abreast on a rural road well after someone yells "car back"
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City governments that pay lip service to promoting cycling, but in reality don't really care about cyclists or about providing access for them, but I guess that may apply to almost all governments.
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Well if you're in California, you can expect to be getting your arse sued off!

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21954. (a) Every pedestrian upon a roadway at any point other than
within a marked crosswalk or within an unmarked crosswalk at an
intersection shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles upon the
roadway so near as to constitute an immediate hazard.
(b) The provisions of this section shall not relieve the driver of
a vehicle from the duty to exercise due care for the safety of any
pedestrian upon a roadway.



21955. Between adjacent intersections controlled by traffic control
signal devices or by police officers, pedestrians shall not cross
the roadway at any place except in a crosswalk.



21956. (a) No pedestrian may walk upon any roadway outside of a
business or residence district otherwise than close to his or her
left-hand edge of the roadway.
(b) A pedestrian may walk close to his or her right-hand edge of
the roadway if a crosswalk or other means of safely crossing the
roadway is not available or if existing traffic or other conditions
would compromise the safety of a pedestrian attempting to cross the
road.


First, I'm an attorney. I'm not threatened by someone "suing my arse off".

Second, I don't live in California - (The rest of the civilized world gives pedestrians the right of way - see ex. Utah Code Ann.41-6a-1009 "The operator of a vehicle shall: (a) exercise care to avoid colliding with a pedestrian... [t]his section supersedes any conflicting provision [of the traffic code]" )
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First, I'm an attorney. I'm not threatened by someone "suing my arse off".

Second, I don't live in California - (The rest of the civilized world gives pedestrians the right of way - see ex. Utah Code Ann.41-6a-1009 "The operator of a vehicle shall: (a) exercise care to avoid colliding with a pedestrian... [t]his section supersedes any conflicting provision [of the traffic code]" )
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I will knock you off your bike if I'm running and we play "chicken".

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You missed the point, Star Jones! Isn't it great to play tough guy on the internet and not be threated by anyone?

Isn't that assult when you push someone off their bike? But wait you are an attorney, you probably have great justification for that kind of action.

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The only one I can think of now is in regards to motorists honking at me. It is rather annoying you impatient ******.
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You missed the point, Star Jones! Isn't it great to play tough guy on the internet and not be threated by anyone?

Isn't that assult when you push someone off their bike? But wait you are an attorney, you probably have great justification for that kind of action.
Sure, if I push them off their bike without just cause - (although technically it would be a battery rather than assault). Of course that scenario was completely of your creation.

If we run into each other when I have the right of way, I will knock them off their bike. I run as close to the edge of the road as possible for the simple reason of safety if nothing else. However, I will not move out of my running lane on the shoulder to avoid a biker who can easily move a few feet over. I've had two close calls this summer. If they are close enough that I need to shield myself - by grabbing a handle bar... not fun for either of us, but a lot less fun for them.

I commute almost daily on my bike to work. I also run approximately 30 miles per week and a marathon or two during the summer. I see both sides of this on a regular basis. I pass probably 20 runners every morning on my way to work. There is no reason for a biker on the roads I run on not to move over other than being a ******.

Thus it qualifies as a pet peeve of cycling - a**hole cyclists.

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Hello folks, this was just supposed to be just a general forum. Was not meant to start a internet forum war between anyone.

please cool down all comments and let there be peace!
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First, I'm an attorney. I'm not threatened by someone "suing my arse off".

Second, I don't live in California - (The rest of the civilized world gives pedestrians the right of way - see ex. Utah Code Ann.41-6a-1009 "The operator of a vehicle shall: (a) exercise care to avoid colliding with a pedestrian... [t]his section supersedes any conflicting provision [of the traffic code]" )

Funny, but that code says pretty much the same thing as the California code. If there is a sidewalk, you better be on it. Other than that, per #6 you better yeild to all vehicular traffic on the roadway. I think you better worry about getting your arse sued off!


41-6a-1009. Use of roadway by pedestrians -- Prohibited activities.
(1) Where there is a sidewalk provided and its use is practicable, a pedestrian may not walk along or on an adjacent roadway.
(2) Where a sidewalk is not provided, a pedestrian walking along or on a highway shall walk only on the shoulder, as far as practicable from the edge of the roadway.
(3) Where a sidewalk or a shoulder is not available, a pedestrian walking along or on a highway shall:
(a) walk as near as practicable to the outside edge of the roadway; and
(b) if on a two-way roadway, walk only on the left side of the roadway facing traffic.
(4) A person may not sit, stand, or loiter on or near a roadway for the purpose of soliciting from the occupant of a vehicle:
(a) a ride;
(b) contributions;
(c) employment;
(d) the parking, watching, or guarding of a vehicle; or
(e) other business.
(5) A pedestrian who is under the influence of alcohol or any drug to a degree which renders the pedestrian a hazard may not walk or be on a highway except on a sidewalk or sidewalk area.
(6) Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, a pedestrian on a roadway shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles on the roadway.
(7) A pedestrian may not walk along or on a no access freeway facility except during an emergency.


Then you might want to take a look at the next code code (restrcitons on pedestrians b). Unless you're jogging ina crosswalk................


41-6a-1010. Unmarked crosswalk locations -- Restrictions on pedestrian.
(1) A highway authority in its respective jurisdiction may, after an engineering and traffic investigation, designate unmarked crosswalk locations where:
(a) pedestrian crossing is prohibited; or
(b) pedestrians shall yield the right-of-way to vehicles.
(2) The restrictions in Subsection (1) are effective only when traffic-control devices indicating the restrictions are in place.

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I was riding my bike to the LBS when I got a flat (second one that day) and had no more spare tubes. Had to walk the last 1/2 mile. My pet peeve? The guy that was judging me for walking my bike.

Every one of the pet peeves in the OP is ludicrous btw
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What i was getting at, was i see people with fully functional bikes, who walk them.
makes no sense really.
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What i was getting at, was i see people with fully functional bikes, who walk them.
makes no sense really.
Because you stop and inspect the bike?
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Funny, but that code says pretty much the same thing as the California code. If there is a sidewalk, you better be on it. Other than that, per #6 you better yeild to all vehicular traffic on the roadway. I think you better worry about getting your arse sued off!


41-6a-1009. Use of roadway by pedestrians -- Prohibited activities.
(1) Where there is a sidewalk provided and its use is practicable, a pedestrian may not walk along or on an adjacent roadway.
(2) Where a sidewalk is not provided, a pedestrian walking along or on a highway shall walk only on the shoulder, as far as practicable from the edge of the roadway.
(3) Where a sidewalk or a shoulder is not available, a pedestrian walking along or on a highway shall:
(a) walk as near as practicable to the outside edge of the roadway; and
(b) if on a two-way roadway, walk only on the left side of the roadway facing traffic.
(4) A person may not sit, stand, or loiter on or near a roadway for the purpose of soliciting from the occupant of a vehicle:
(a) a ride;
(b) contributions;
(c) employment;
(d) the parking, watching, or guarding of a vehicle; or
(e) other business.
(5) A pedestrian who is under the influence of alcohol or any drug to a degree which renders the pedestrian a hazard may not walk or be on a highway except on a sidewalk or sidewalk area.
(6) Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, a pedestrian on a roadway shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles on the roadway.
(7) A pedestrian may not walk along or on a no access freeway facility except during an emergency.


Then you might want to take a look at the next code code (restrcitons on pedestrians b). Unless you're jogging ina crosswalk................


41-6a-1010. Unmarked crosswalk locations -- Restrictions on pedestrian.
(1) A highway authority in its respective jurisdiction may, after an engineering and traffic investigation, designate unmarked crosswalk locations where:
(a) pedestrian crossing is prohibited; or
(b) pedestrians shall yield the right-of-way to vehicles.
(2) The restrictions in Subsection (1) are effective only when traffic-control devices indicating the restrictions are in place.

The uniform vehicle code will be adopted by almost all western states. The provisions such as the one I cited earlier (that specifically supersedes the other conflicting provisions) are modifications by the legislature. As such they will govern. We, or you as I don't have time, can research the legislative history of each bill modifying the uniform vehicle code if you'd like.

Another example of a conflicting provision:
41-6a 1105 "A person operating a bicycle or a moped on a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall ride as near as practicable to the right-hand edge of the roadway except when...reasonably necessary to avoid...pedestrians."

In either event these are malum prohibitum issues and would not necessarily determine the outcome of a civil suit regarding a ped/ped collision. If they were determinative the section specifically creating a duty of care in the vehicle driver is likely the "winner". Cyclists hits runner on shoulder of road... how do you think that law suit turns out? I'll take the runner every time.

It's kinda silly anyway as the likelihood of a lawsuit is exceedingly small. Now if I lived in California...

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Sure, if I push them off their bike without just cause - (although technically it would be a battery rather than assault). Of course that scenario was completely of your creation.

If we run into each other when I have the right of way, I will knock them off their bike. I run as close to the edge of the road as possible for the simple reason of safety if nothing else. However, I will not move out of my running lane on the shoulder to avoid a biker who can easily move a few feet over. I've had two close calls this summer. If they are close enough that I need to shield myself - by grabbing a handle bar... not fun for either of us, but a lot less fun for them.

I commute almost daily on my bike to work. I also run approximately 30 miles per week and a marathon or two during the summer. I see both sides of this on a regular basis. I pass probably 20 runners every morning on my way to work. There is no reason for a biker on the roads I run on not to move over other than being a ******.

Thus it qualifies as a pet peeve of cycling - a**hole cyclists.
Oooh, "technically" and "just cause". There's the comeback I was expecting. Way to not disappoint, attorney!

It is awesome that you write and try to convince the internet strangers that you are who you say you are and thus expect a modicum of respect and perhaps lend credibility to your claims. No worries mate, we believe you

One of your pet peeves are a**hole cyclists? I doubt that anybody has those type of cyclists as part of their "people I would love to meet" list.

Regular internet ass holes stating they are attorneys on BF are not high on my people to meet, but hey, these are the thing you have to deal with while on BF. I can accept that
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Another example of a conflicting provision:
41-6a 1105 "A person operating a bicycle or a moped on a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall ride as near as practicable to the right-hand edge of the roadway except when...reasonably necessary to avoid...pedestrians."...
Well you are the lawyer but I bet if there is a sidewalk on that road, the cyclist wins, maybe case thrown out. Otherwise the ped has no reason to be there other than to intentionally impede the flow of traffic. The ped has the right to the roadway only if a sidewalk or similar does not exist and from what I have read in your posted codes, he has just as much responsibility to yield for safety. The only way the ped would win is if there is no sidewalk or other safe passage available.

But your claim of grabbing the bars is outrageous. If there is a sidewalk available, lawyer or not, I'd suggest you use it because your defense of grabbing the bars to take down a cyclist won't win you any cases.

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What i was getting at, was i see people with fully functional bikes, who walk them.
makes no sense really.
I crashed at 30 mph last year on the MTB. Separated my shoulder. I had to walk back to my truck about 1/2 mile pushing my fully functional bike. I was the only thing that wasn't fully functional.

I wonder if people looked at me and wondered why I was walking a fully functional bike?
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