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Old 11-20-04, 11:19 PM
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Bike on plane?

I am going to Bermuda this summer for 2 weeks and i really want to bring my bike. Has anyone ever brought their bike on an airplane before? And if so, did the airline make it difficult for you? Tell me.
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have never done it but i just came across this travel case on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...114669234&rd=1
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Many many times. Just make sure that they don't charge you for having excess baggage size. That can range from $75.00 to $100.00. It happened to me years ago when I was traveling from California. Pack the bike well.

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Some airlines will take your bike for free as as 'sporting equip', others will charge as 'oversize', so check before booking.
They usually require disasembly at check in. Ask at your lbs for the frame braces for the dropouts that come with all new frames.
You may even be able to ship it in a new bike box you get for free from your lbs.
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Old 11-21-04, 02:55 AM
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copy of a letter I had to write. I never heard back from the c9nts.




Claims Management Office
Transportation Security Administration
TSA Headquarters, Crystal Park Annex
601 12th Street S. (TSA-9)
Arlington, VA 22202-4220



To Whom It May Concern,

Am writing concerning damage to personal property while traveling through Midway Airport on Thursday, July 15, 2004.

Was traveling to Colorado for a bicycle race on the weekend of July 15. I checked in at the ATA counter and was told to take the the plastic box containing the bike to security. Due to the oversize nature of the box, I was told it would have to be opened and inspected. I stood beyond the security zone and watched Julio open the box and inspect the bike.

A word about the type of bicycle weíre talking about. Itís an Eddy Merckx Team SC racing bicycle. It is a custom bicycle with a custom paint job that required 6 months of waiting before it was shipped from Belgium. Itís made of Scandium and Carbon Fiber. Itís value is over $6000.00. I compete on this bicycle and it is very important to me. To draw an automotive correlation: whereas most bikes are Ford Escorts, my bicycle is a Bentley. I take it very seriously.

Watching Julio inspect my bike, I knew he had no idea what he held in his hands. He flipped it around like it was a poker chip. The plastic box, which was on the floor, sat near a table which had a sharp edge. Julio lifted the bike right into the corner of the table and put a 3 inch scratch into the top tube. The scratch went all the way to the metal. Oblivious, Julio said he didnít do it, although I watched the whole thing with eagle eyes and saw him do it. After the supervisor came over, Julio put the bike back in the box and tossed it with a bang on the conveyor. Enraged, I looked over at the sound and he looked at me, smiled and said, and I am quoting here ďAh, thatís nothing, you should see what they do to Ďem downstairs.Ē I donít expect Julio to have an appreciation of a custom made racing bicycle, but I do expect him to have a concern for the property heís inspecting and an awareness that although itís not important to him it is very important to others. It is what he gets paid to do. His behavior, behavior that he didnít apologize for, behavior he wouldnít even acknowledge, behavior for which he showed no remorse, was atrocious.

Chicagoland Bicycle (773-445-0811, CBIKE.COM) has made an inspection of the bicycle and believes the paint can be repaired, although it may require a shipment back to Belgium to the Merckx factory. The racing season draws to a close in September and I will want to have it repaired then. I urge you to treat this matter with concern and to convince me that Julioís barbarism is in no way indicative of TSA as a whole.

Sincerely,


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Old 11-21-04, 03:38 AM
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Either buy a hard-sided bike tote, or get it professionally packed. The airline isn't difficult, but security will definitely have a long look at it. They will open it, unfortunately, and who knows what might happen. The airline I took mine on had a special bike charge, which was about $85.
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Old 11-21-04, 09:51 AM
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I've flown with my Steelman Eurocross for two round trips. From Minneapolis to Seattle and back, and from Minneapolis to Las Vegas and back. I used the same AirCaddy cardboard box both times and was very successful with no visual damage whatsoever. I didn't get to watch the TSA inspect it but, as I recall, of the four flights it was on, the box was only opened once. The AirCaddy box is definitely oversize (nearly five feet long) so they definitely charge you. Most airlines change $100 each way for oversize sporting goods like bikes, but some are cheaper. Sun Country out of Minneapolis only changes $45 each way, and America West and Frontier will waive the fees for League of American Bicyclists members. I flew to Seattle on Sun Country and to Vegas on America West. Both airlines were fine with it, but expect some delay at checkin. Going abroad may be more difficult though, especially to someplace like Bermuda. If the final leg of your flight is on a turbo-prop plane they usually have a pretty strict baggage size requirement. I've flown to the Caribbean a bunch of times and oversize baggage is definitely a problem if you have to fly through San Juan. You're better off getting a flight to Miami or Atlanta and then direct on a jet from there. For a two week trip, you may want to consider renting instead. A shop on St. Croix, USVI, has rented me a Felt 65 for $100 a week, which is less than the fees to bring my bike down would have been.
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Mayo, holy crap! That story brought tears to my eyes. I HATE when stuff like that happens and you have some petty bureaucrat with no accountability. That truly sucks, my condolences.

On the bike-as-luggage thing, here's some info:

http://www.ibike.org/encouragement/travel/flying.htm
http://www.ibike.org/bagregs.htm

That may help you select a carrier. On the other hand, if you've already bought your tickets, check the airline's web site or call the ticket counter to get the final word. I know a few changed regs post-9/11 (the few cases I can think of were to start charging, so I suspect the 9/11 thing was really just an excuse to try and recover some costs on what had been a free service).
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Within the United States most of the airlines charge excess baggage fees for bicycles, but in my experience the fee is not in force for international flights.

If you do end up being charged a fee, make sure that it is the fee for a bicycle and not the general oversize baggage fee which is higher than the bicycle fee.
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Old 11-21-04, 03:03 PM
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thanks alot everyone.
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if you have the time look into shipping your
bike. I shipped mine chicago to los angeles
fedex for $30 one way. Otherwise UAL
would've charged me $65 both ways and
that was even with premiere status.

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Old 11-22-04, 07:30 AM
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i'd leave the bike home. always travel free of encumbrance.

Mayo, I had a similar experience when I found a footprint on top of my board bag, and my surfboard was broken in two. After numerious letters, they finally responded with a photocopy of their policy on sporting equipment (not responsible for damage).

Long story short, about 15 letters later, including one from an attorney (kinda, my law student brotherinlaw (but they didnt know that)) and one stating they can have my frequent flyer miles because I'm never flying with them again...they not only reimbursed me for my board, but they also sent me two 100 dollar gift certificates vaild for prettymuch any retail establishment you've ever heard of.

Long story short....go to the top and make a lot of noise. Policy is only set for the sheep.
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Old 11-22-04, 07:39 AM
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Old 11-22-04, 01:31 PM
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Well, here's a question to piggy-back here. Has anyone ever used anything like a bonded shipper or a company that handles excess baggage to ship a bike to another continent? There's still the chance that I'll be going to Japan, and I'll already have one big Pelican hard case for my computer, so any alternative shipping options for my bike might make life a little easier. I've already been convinced of the worth of a hard case instead of a cardboard bike box, but I'm still debating how I'd get the box over there.
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Make it look like a set of golf clubs...don't know why golf clubs fly free, but bikes usually do not...like most things, it makes no sense. Seems to me they both weigh about the same and take up the same volume in a cargo hold...
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Old 11-22-04, 02:34 PM
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Fugazi Dave, does DHL go to Japan? When I travel here in the US and want to take a bike, I just ship it in a hard case to my hotel via either UPS or FEDEX...most recently, a bike shipment from Pensacola FL to Waukegan IL cost me $32 so no telling what it would be to Japan, but it might be worth checking out.
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Good idea. I'll check 'em out.
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DHL will do Japan.
Have things changed? I've only had to pay on domestic or Canada/US flights. International flights I was allowed a bike as one of my checked peices no extra charge. This was Continental and American Airlines.

My lady has a bike bag that we can fir her fixie and my road into at the same time, very well padded and secured, saves us $$ everytime
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Hmmm DHL quotes $450+. Methinks the airline may be better after all...
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have never done it but i just came across this travel case on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...114669234&rd=1


man that is ****ing dope!!! i think i've seen one of those before and i was amazed!!!!
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Easy. Airlines usually make you put it in a box. Just remember not to have anything loose in the box (such as saddle - gets shaken about and damages other things). DOn't be tempted to put more stuff in there - you want to keep the box as light as possible to minimise the possibiltiy of damage.

If airline will let you take bike as a complete bike (i.e. not in box) that is probably better from damage point of view (also avoids problem of what to do with box while you are holidaying etc).

Call airline they can advise requirements before you go.
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dam son, you talk to your mom with that mouth?

i went to england once with a pro ramp guy for something we were working on.. he travels at least 10 times a year with a bike.. and told me if you tell em its a bike youre toast.. he says hes found that converntion display works best when they ask what it is.. and if they dig deeper.. he makes it sound like some sort of weird sex thing.. sounds a little sketchy to me but he claims its yet to let him down. if you say its a bike.. youre gonna pay...saying its art is another suggestion.. anything but fun.. fun gets taxed

i shipped a bike fed ex ground for 18 bucks.. fer reals yo

and whoever had the surfboard story.. thanks for that.. im going to costa rica next week with two boards.. its nice to know they sometimes get stepped on and broken in half.. i was worried everything would show up just fine..
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On a recent bike tour, I shipped my bike via UPS to Jackson, WY. It cost $27 with insurance. I used a pretty nice case and the bike fits into it using S&S couplers (see photo). I took it back with me on the plane and the Jackson Airport security even let me lock the case (well, he did it when I gave him the key) for the return flight. We are talking Jackson, Wyoming. Their whole existance is stuff like this so I don't think it's typical. I was certainly nervous nonetheless.

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