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Old 11-24-04, 07:34 PM
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are padded bike pants just hype?

when i first got into biking, i didn't see the logic behind padded shorts...seemed to me that when you're sitting on the chamois, it's going to get compressed against the saddle and be hard anyway...but i bought everything padded cuz everyone said "oh yeah man! it makes a HUGE difference!"...

last week i got a brooks B17 saddle...got on it and was comfortable from the get-go, even though that thing is rock hard...today i did 50 miles in UNpadded pants...didn't feel any different to me...still comfortable...no difference whatsoever that i could tell...

i DON'T think it's cuz the brooks is just such a great saddle that you don't need padded pants with it...i think i would have had the same experience with my old saddle...

is it just me? or are we the victims of marketing hype? is it a conspiracy between the saddle makers and clothes makers? the brooks has been around forever and it works...but now we have all these "high-tech" saddles and everyone "needs" padded shorts...are they making uncomfortable seats on purpose to sell more padded shorts?

i'm kidding about the conspiracy thing, of course...but seriously, i don't think padding makes much difference....i do 30-50 miles a day - i think i would have noticed at 50 miles if there was a difference...maybe it's just me...thoughts?

btw, i'm skinny and have a boney ass...it's not like i have "natural" padding that would make the chamois unnecessary.
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Old 11-24-04, 07:38 PM
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Having ridden with and without a chamois, I would never ride without one again. If it's hype or placebo, so be it, because my body tells me different. I hardly have a bony ass (6'1", 272 lbs) and the padding feels quite, er, special
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Old 11-24-04, 07:48 PM
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You are a victim of marketing and hype already as evidenced by your purchase of the Brook saddle.

Luddite technology at a premium price. Maybe you needsome downtube shifters and drilled out chainrings also.
 
Old 11-24-04, 07:55 PM
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Yes, Virginia, we are victims of "marketing hype". This is how the bicycle industry makes money:
Truth- If you buy a quality bicycle that fits your needs, you can ride it for the rest of your life and only update a few, relatively inexpensive things as they wear out.
Truth- It behooves the industry to "manufacture" a sense of need for new gimmicks, like carbon fiber handlebars and disc brakes, to stimulate an otherwise flat market.

This is why you see all these people decked out like Tyler Hamiton who DON'T RACE. Racers need that extra edge that all those expensive goodies give them. The rest of us really don't, so some of us don't even feel the need to spend our money on all that stuff. I mean, has anybody ever really figured out why 27" switched over to 700c except to make you feel like you need a new bike?
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On my Brooks, I'm comfortable either way.
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Old 11-24-04, 08:28 PM
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I ride the padded shorts. Makes me more comfortable on longer rides. Of course I don't use a Brooks so that may be it
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Old 11-24-04, 08:50 PM
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Riding with no pants makes you faster.
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Old 11-24-04, 08:59 PM
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It's not the padding - it's the moisture wicking capabilities that makes the difference.
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Old 11-25-04, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by skydive69
It's not the padding - it's the moisture wicking capabilities that makes the difference.
And friction reducing capabilities as well.
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I went on google to find what the brooks look like, is it a saddle that looks old schol and its leather. And wear padded shorts because of chafing reasons.
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Old 11-25-04, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by krispistoferson
Yes, Virginia, we are victims of "marketing hype". This is how the bicycle industry makes money:
Truth- If you buy a quality bicycle that fits your needs, you can ride it for the rest of your life and only update a few, relatively inexpensive things as they wear out.
Truth- It behooves the industry to "manufacture" a sense of need for new gimmicks, like carbon fiber handlebars and disc brakes, to stimulate an otherwise flat market.

This is why you see all these people decked out like Tyler Hamiton who DON'T RACE. Racers need that extra edge that all those expensive goodies give them. The rest of us really don't, so some of us don't even feel the need to spend our money on all that stuff. I mean, has anybody ever really figured out why 27" switched over to 700c except to make you feel like you need a new bike?
Thought we were talking about shorts? Marketing runs the world. You need to do your homework as what to buy into.Agree with doctor who and skydive69.
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and they are damn comfy on the saddle.
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Old 11-25-04, 09:24 PM
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The guys who ride 200 miles a day at close to 30 mph feel racing clothes give them an edge. But, I ride no more than 30 miles a day, usually at speeds that don't merit use of the word "speed". So, today I rode about thirty miles wearing jeans, sweatshirt and a windbreaker, tennis shoes. Very comfortable. And, a guy dressed like that looks okay going really, really slow. If I was dressed like Lance and rode that slow, it just would not look right.
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Old 11-25-04, 09:57 PM
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Well I have no patience, so whether I'm on a group ride, charity ride, commuting, or just my morning ride, I'm always pushing as hard as I can. In which case I want the tight spandex stuff.
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Old 11-25-04, 10:12 PM
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I don't really care about the tight spandex like shorts. I am a new biker and my first ride over the summer was a pair of baggy gym shorts and a t-shirt. I quickly learned about 20 minutes into my ride that it was a mistake whereas my speed reached only about 17 MPH maximum riding against the wind. The shorts helped me out alot with speed and friction against wind. Jerseys as much as shorts help alot with sweating where the sweat seems to drip right off and not stick to your body as much. The chamois I cannot thank enough my first ride was about 30 miles with the gym shorts and when I got home I was walking like someone had kicked me in that area like 100 times....it hurts let me tell you. I am a new rider again so my facts could be off but the padded shorts could be needless depending on your saddle height or the frame, that's why it is always good to make sure you get fitted on your bike properly and test every bike you like.
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I've ridden metric centuries without padded bike shorts, on a mountain bike, never had the need for them yet.
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Been riding serious 22 years, 21 of them with padded shorts. Still make short runs in my "street" clothes and it sucks but is not worth the trouble for a twenty minute round trip.
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Originally Posted by operator
I've ridden metric centuries without padded bike shorts, on a mountain bike, never had the need for them yet.
Try a metric double century in 90 degree weather.
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I where under armour compresion shorts and a $10 pair of nylon shorts, I ride 10 miles a day and works fine for me.
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Plus, I cant find a pair of padded shorts that fit right, any sugestions..... anyone?
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Plus, I cant find a pair of padded shorts that fit right, any sugestions..... anyone?
Bibs.
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Originally Posted by alanbikehouston
The guys who ride 200 miles a day at close to 30 mph feel racing clothes give them an edge. But, I ride no more than 30 miles a day, usually at speeds that don't merit use of the word "speed". So, today I rode about thirty miles wearing jeans, sweatshirt and a windbreaker, tennis shoes. Very comfortable. And, a guy dressed like that looks okay going really, really slow. If I was dressed like Lance and rode that slow, it just would not look right.
I see, now they are called racing cloths.
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Originally Posted by shokhead
I see, now they are called racing cloths.
I got me couple a' pairs o' them fancier racing clothes.
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When i road dirtbikes{motorcycles i didnt use gloves,liked to feel the grip in my hands. My dad said after i go down,i'll be using them. I started before a crash. 25 years latter when i started riding it was in t-shirts and reg shorts. My dad again says you better use gloves before you crash.I wont. Everybody does he says. I got gloves. No way those tight shorts going on me. Baggies. Well i'm hard headed and reading the same stuff now,got a cheap pair and knew how dumb i was not to have been wearing them. Also got tired of a t-shirt that weight 10 pounds of sweat. There is a reason for cycling cloths other then looks. They do ****ion. Now you guys that say you dont need them,you are most likly like i was,i'm not putt'n that crap on. Keep riding,you'll get over it. You dont have to spend a zillion bucks if you buy on sale. I've got 1 pair PI Ultra's shorts and 1 pair Attack PI bibs,2 ls base layers,4ls jerseys and 4 ss jerseys,less then 300 bucks,all sale stuff over the last 2 years.
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