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closetbiker 12-09-04 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by slvoid
I think the confusion is that you can't understand anyone else's point of view other than yours..

not true. I agree with much that has been said here. Just not everything.



Originally Posted by slvoid
You keep saying that for people (which implies me too since i'm a person) who are not on the bike and on the bike, there is NO elevated risk. Meaning the probability of a head injury is the SAME. Which you are implying. .

I've mentioned this is what I've found but I'm asking for evidence to the contrary.




Originally Posted by slvoid
If there is no evidence of an elevated risk, would you agree that the probability is the same?

It would seem to be.



Originally Posted by slvoid
So let's say there's no evidence of an elevated risk, then how do you explain the fact that so many people here have hit their head significantly more on the bike than anywhere else?

I think if one believes in something they look for things that will confirm thier beliefs to others, weather true or not.




Originally Posted by slvoid
If we are in fact so accident prone, then perhaps the rest of us should continue wearing helmets and those of you who have never experienced these freak shifts in probability (since you imply that there's no evidence of elevated risk) should just go out without wearing a helmet.

there is nothing wrong with wearing a helmet and if it makes you feel good, thats even better, but if one doesn't wear one, it's not the end of the world either.



Originally Posted by slvoid
Problem solved, your crusade is completed.

what crusade? I was just asking for information that would make a more powerful argument in favor of wearing helmets on bikes.

:)

slvoid 12-09-04 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by closetbiker
I was just asking for information that would make a more powerful argument in favor of wearing helmets on bikes.

:)

I think that's the root of the problem. You can't really make it a "powerful" argument. Unless it's popular enough that enough people are affected by it, I don't know if there will ever be a powerful enough blanket argument.
I mean, if race car drivers wear helmets, then why don't we? There's probably a good reason.
If me darting around traffic at 25+ mph in midtown traffic warrants me wearing a helmet, then why doesn't grandma who goes 5mph and sits upright and low enough to "walk" her bike use one? There's also probably a good reason why she wouldn't need one whereas I would.

closetbiker 12-09-04 10:22 PM

the quote was "more powerful" as in, better. A better reason to wear a helmet. If enough people did hit their heads when riding they would be affected by the argument that they should make wearing a helmet a priority, but they don't hit their heads that often so the argument is less powerful than if there was an elevated risk to go without a helmet.

ChAnMaN 12-09-04 10:44 PM

OMG i had my first major bike crash today (been riding for two years). I was riding along in the middle of the road, when traffic started to speed up faster then i could go i started to merge onto the side walk.........well i didnt his the little sidewalk ramp with a big enough angle to get me over the little bump and it stoped my bike and luanched me head on into a cement pole at about 19 mph. if i hadnt been wearing a helmet i probably would have fractured my skull. i normlay dont wear a helmet and it was pure chance that i was wearing mine today but from now on im wearing mine everytime i get on a bikie.......IM A BELIEVER!!!!!!


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