Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > General Cycling Discussion
Reload this Page >

How can I tell what wheels will fit into a bike frame?

Notices
General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

How can I tell what wheels will fit into a bike frame?

Old 11-22-11, 03:43 PM
  #1  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
How can I tell what wheels will fit into a bike frame?

Okay, I want to put at least 700 x 35 tires on a bike, and have it be a single speed.

I am pretty sure most road bikes can't accomodate 35mm + tires. Hence, I will probably want a mountain bike frame (correct me if I am wrong please.)

Bottom line, is there an easy way to tell, by looking at the 'specs' of a frame, what size wheel it will be able to accomodate?

I know that there may be some difficulty putting 700 tires on a MTB, due to brake issues, but that's okay. I just want to know if there's a way to tell what size wheels a frame can take.

Thanks very much, this is an awesome website.

Dueces.
FreakyFast is offline  
Old 11-22-11, 03:50 PM
  #2  
Tawp Dawg
 
GriddleCakes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Anchorage, AK
Posts: 1,221

Bikes: '06 Surly Pugsley, '14 Surly Straggler, '88 Kuwahara Xtracycle, '10 Motobecane Outcast 29er, '?? Surly Cross Check (wife's), '00 Trek 4500 (wife's), '12 Windsor Oxford 3-speed (dogs')

Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
700 is referring to the wheel radius, equates to a 622 mm rim, and won't fit on a 26" wheeled MTB frame; you'd need a 29er MTB frame. 35mm tires will fit in most cyclocross frames, you might look at those too. Most manufactures will indicate the maximum tire width for a given frame.

Both of these frames have a road-ish geometry, and will take 35mm tires:

Surly Steamroller

Motobecane Uno

But any singlespeed 29er MTB will work for you.

Last edited by GriddleCakes; 11-22-11 at 03:56 PM.
GriddleCakes is offline  
Old 11-22-11, 04:11 PM
  #3  
Bike Sorceress
 
Arrowana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: MPLS
Posts: 782

Bikes: Yes

Liked 126 Times in 75 Posts
I'd just look for a hybrid, though I suppose if you are trying to do this on the cheap a MTB frame is easier to find. Playing around with Sheldon Brown's gear calculator, it looks like if it can take 26x2.35 tires and still have some clearance, 700c x 35 will probably fit. A Schwinn Varsity would fit it with clearance to spare, it normally comes with 27" wheels, and mine is wide enough to fit 26x2.35 tires with fenders. Actually, I'd think most lower end road bikes with 27x1 1/4 tires could fit 700x35 just fine.
Arrowana is online now  
Old 11-22-11, 04:31 PM
  #4  
Hogosha Sekai
 
RaleighSport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STS
Posts: 6,669

Bikes: Leader 725, Centurion Turbo, Scwhinn Peloton, Schwinn Premis, GT Tequesta, Bridgestone CB-2,72' Centurion Lemans, 72 Raleigh Competition

Likes: 0
Liked 21 Times in 15 Posts
Originally Posted by Arrowana
I'd just look for a hybrid, though I suppose if you are trying to do this on the cheap a MTB frame is easier to find. Playing around with Sheldon Brown's gear calculator, it looks like if it can take 26x2.35 tires and still have some clearance, 700c x 35 will probably fit. A Schwinn Varsity would fit it with clearance to spare, it normally comes with 27" wheels, and mine is wide enough to fit 26x2.35 tires with fenders. Actually, I'd think most lower end road bikes with 27x1 1/4 tires could fit 700x35 just fine.
Was just gonna say, take just about any older bike that used 27" wheels and you can fit those wheels/tires on I'm running a set of 700c with 38's on them on a super course atm.. still tons of clearance.
RaleighSport is offline  
Old 11-22-11, 06:20 PM
  #5  
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Posts: 43,598

Bikes: 8

Liked 1,360 Times in 866 Posts
622 is bead seat diameter, add tire width, as it is as tall as it is wide.
27" is 630.
fietsbob is offline  
Old 11-22-11, 06:26 PM
  #6  
Insane Bicycle Mechanic
 
Jeff Wills's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: other Vancouver
Posts: 9,887
Liked 772 Times in 401 Posts
As others have said- if you start with an older "10-speed" frame, originally set up for 27" wheels and with horizontal dropouts, you'll be able to create a single-speed bike with 700 x 35C tires pretty easily. I did this with an old Schwinn LeTour: https://home.comcast.net/~jeff_wills/letour/index.htm (I know it's a 7-speed in the pictures- I've since reconfigured it as single speed) and it works great. If you shop around, you can even find good-quality NOS frames: https://pedalr.com/items/707

Starting with an ATB frame is problematic. If the wheels fit, you'll have to do some adapting to get brakes to work. Even then, the cranks are going to be somewhat higher than the usual road bike. It's just going to end up weird.
__________________
Jeff Wills

Comcast nuked my web page. It will return soon..

Last edited by Jeff Wills; 11-22-11 at 06:29 PM.
Jeff Wills is offline  
Old 11-22-11, 06:43 PM
  #7  
Hogosha Sekai
 
RaleighSport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STS
Posts: 6,669

Bikes: Leader 725, Centurion Turbo, Scwhinn Peloton, Schwinn Premis, GT Tequesta, Bridgestone CB-2,72' Centurion Lemans, 72 Raleigh Competition

Likes: 0
Liked 21 Times in 15 Posts
Originally Posted by Jeff Wills
As others have said- if you start with an older "10-speed" frame, originally set up for 27" wheels and with horizontal dropouts, you'll be able to create a single-speed bike with 700 x 35C tires pretty easily. I did this with an old Schwinn LeTour: https://home.comcast.net/~jeff_wills/letour/index.htm (I know it's a 7-speed in the pictures- I've since reconfigured it as single speed) and it works great. If you shop around, you can even find good-quality NOS frames: https://pedalr.com/items/707

Starting with an ATB frame is problematic. If the wheels fit, you'll have to do some adapting to get brakes to work. Even then, the cranks are going to be somewhat higher than the usual road bike. It's just going to end up weird.
+10
RaleighSport is offline  
Old 11-23-11, 07:12 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Retro Grouch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: St Peters, Missouri
Posts: 30,225

Bikes: Catrike 559 I own some others but they don't get ridden very much.

Liked 644 Times in 365 Posts
Originally Posted by FreakyFast
Okay, I want to put at least 700 x 35 tires on a bike, and have it be a single speed.

I am pretty sure most road bikes can't accomodate 35mm + tires. Hence, I will probably want a mountain bike frame (correct me if I am wrong please.)

Bottom line, is there an easy way to tell, by looking at the 'specs' of a frame, what size wheel it will be able to accomodate?
Yup. The "easy way" is to borrow a pair of hybrid wheels with 35mm tires and test fit them onto the frame that you're proposing to use. There's several of potential clearance issues so, short of a test fit, it's easy to get unpleasantly surprised.

My bet is that it will work if you have disc brakes. My 700c fixed gear conversion started life as 26" mountain bike. It even uses road bike brakes but I'm using skinnier tires.
Retro Grouch is offline  
Old 11-23-11, 07:27 AM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: England
Posts: 12,948
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times in 7 Posts
A singlespeed needs some way of tensioning the chain.
Most modern bikes use vertical dropouts which are light, stiff and quick to use but have no back and forward adjustment. You can get spring-loaded chain tensioners but these detract from the simplicity and collect dirt.
The usual methods for singlespeeds are:
Horizontal rear dropouts so you can move the axle back and forward.
Rear facing "track ends" that do the same.
Sliding vertical dropouts such as Paragon
Eccentric bottom bracket (EBB)

The first 2 are the simplest and best ways with a basic singlepseed.

You cant use just any hybrid, road or MTB frame, you MUST use one with a tensioning system.
MichaelW is offline  
Old 11-23-11, 07:36 AM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
Retro Grouch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: St Peters, Missouri
Posts: 30,225

Bikes: Catrike 559 I own some others but they don't get ridden very much.

Liked 644 Times in 365 Posts
Originally Posted by MichaelW
You cant use just any hybrid, road or MTB frame, you MUST use one with a tensioning system.
Sometimes, for projects like this, cheaper is better. Look for a mountain bike frame with nutted wheels. It'll probably have horizontal dropouts.
Retro Grouch is offline  
Old 11-23-11, 04:47 PM
  #11  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
thanks all very much
FreakyFast is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Drummerboy1975
Cyclocross and Gravelbiking (Recreational)
5
07-16-13 06:31 PM
ricardoespsanto
Bicycle Mechanics
16
09-14-12 09:54 AM
MitchL
Bicycle Mechanics
5
06-09-11 10:16 PM
stonez
Bicycle Mechanics
7
01-05-10 09:49 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Your Privacy Choices -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.