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Old 05-30-12, 01:50 PM
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How much fun can you have with a NAKED Trucker??

I'm seriously considering a Disc LHT 29'er as my next Surly...

I just want a sturdy-over built disc-brake "road" bike that is still fun for 20-50 mile dirt/gravel rides and will stand up to a clumsy, heavy rider.

I am curious as to how much fun to ride it is NAKED.... that is UN-loaded. Touring will be a rare special occasion for me....FTR, My current (only) bike is a Cross Check
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Why not get the right tool for the job?
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Old 05-30-12, 04:41 PM
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I really dig SPORKS!
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Old 05-30-12, 05:00 PM
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With all due respect, what "job"?

I just want to have a good time...
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Old 05-30-12, 05:18 PM
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Yeah, and if the job us having fun, unloaded, then I think you could do better than an LHT. But if that's what's gonna make you happiest, than an LHT will do the job of making you happy. At least for a while...
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Originally Posted by rebel1916 View Post
Yeah, and if the job us having fun, unloaded, then I think you could do better than an LHT. But if that's what's gonna make you happiest, than an LHT will do the job of making you happy. At least for a while...
I can see your point...The main reason I would want a Trucker over a Cross Check would be the disc brakes. Is it possible/worthwhile to Slap a LHT disc fork on a Cross Check?

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Old 05-30-12, 05:53 PM
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IDK, but I'm sure there is some disk compatible fork that would work with the crosscheck...Disks are all the rave in CX these days. Disks are nice to have for singletrack, but I'm not sure it would be the determining factor on a gravel road/fire road/paved road bike for me. And I say that as someone who believes they are inevitable on racing/performance road bikes.
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Old 05-30-12, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rebel1916 View Post
And I say that as someone who believes they are inevitable on racing/performance road bikes.
... That's kinda what I was thinking, they seem to be the way the industry is heading.

I've never ridden a disc'ed bike before, I just assumed they were superior to rim brakes in any/every way...mainly based on the way they seem to be popping up on every type of bike imaginable.. Do you guys think they are just an overrated trend that will eventually subside?
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They are the shizzy om mtbs, and I think they will offer real performance benefits in high speed applications, just cause they modulate so well. They also make a huge difference in the wet. I'm just not sure how big of a deal they would be for riding paths and gravel roads.
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Old 05-30-12, 07:42 PM
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Wow, man. You have been super helpful. Seriously.
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When I first got my LHT I rode it bare for a group ride. It was the fastest bike I had owned at the time. Granted that was coming from a crappy hybrid, but still...

It's not a race bike, but unless you're racing, who cares?
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Oh, I did race the trucker once. I raced last year's Gravel Grovel in Indiana. 60 miles of gravel roads and off-road mud pits. I finished (near the last), but had a good time.
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A good time is all I'm after..
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Originally Posted by dirty tiger
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A good time is all I'm after..


Have you considered taking up hitch-hiking?
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... I've never ridden a disc'ed bike before, I just assumed they were superior to rim brakes in any/every way...
That's kinda what I thought, But ... disc brakes are heavier and less aero, they can have catastrophic failure if you overheat them, some of them evidently need constant adjustment and are finicky to adjust, smaller discs are prone to warping, and the hydraulic variety are a pain to repair especially if you get leaks. I think for actually stopping your bike they're probably better than rim brakes however.
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Have you considered taking up hitch-hiking?
Nobody will pick me up..
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Nobody will pick me up..
Why is it that when you're on the most wanted list, nobody will pick you up?
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Originally Posted by dcrowell View Post
Oh, I did race the trucker once. I raced last year's Gravel Grovel in Indiana. 60 miles of gravel roads and off-road mud pits. I finished (near the last), but had a good time.
I hear that that LHT rides best when carrying a load...

Not faster, just more stable and smoother.
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I have fun just about everyday on my unloaded LHT. Load it up and it's like a train.
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I just want a sturdy-over built disc-brake "road" bike that is still fun for 20-50 mile dirt/gravel rides and will stand up to a clumsy, heavy rider.
Sounds like Surly might not be quite the right choice. Consider Salsa. Salsa is owned by the same company that owns Surly (QBP), so you won't be straying too far from the path. Salsa kind of specializes in what you're after.

The steel Salsa Vaya is more nimble than the LHT, but maybe a tad less than the Cross Check. Disk brakes. Nice relaxed geometry. More than capable of charity rides or light touring. Built for gravel grinding and dirt roads. It'll even handle some light single track.

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Old 05-31-12, 09:51 PM
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The Vaya is very interesting...I'm also thinking about the Ogre.
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Originally Posted by wphamilton View Post
That's kinda what I thought, But ... disc brakes are heavier and less aero, they can have catastrophic failure if you overheat them, some of them evidently need constant adjustment and are finicky to adjust, smaller discs are prone to warping, and the hydraulic variety are a pain to repair especially if you get leaks. I think for actually stopping your bike they're probably better than rim brakes however.
This is a bit melodramatic especially regards cable-actuated discs. We've got 9000 miles on our tandem and the rear disc has been trouble-free. Only warped rotor caused by someone running into us on a ride. We'll see about the warping on my Volagi's discs, but I'm frankly not very concerned.
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An unloaded LHT feels sluggish compared to a Crosscheck. (I've owned both). I agree with the Salsa Vaya recommendation. I currently own a Salsa La Cruz (very similar to the Vaya, just an earlier version) with disc brakes and it is a great bike. Avid BB7 cable disc brakes are a noticeable improvement in stopping power over V-brakes and a huge leap from cantilevers. They are easier to adjust than either V-brakes or cantilevers and you would have to subject them to extreme conditions to make them fail - conditions that would melt brake pads on other brakes.

On the other hand... the Surly Vaya is one heck of an ugly bike. The LHT looks way better. Also, Jamis has a disc road bike too that might be worth looking into. If you have tons of a money, a carbon framed Volagi would be just the ticket.
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I hate disc brakes -- but I'm the odd-man on this. I've never in 5 years of riding the surly LHT thought "man, you know what would be better -- some disc brakes!"

I would guess that if you need them on a touring bike you should probably get a mountain bike since the trucker only has moderate tire clearance as it is. I love mine, don't get me wrong.
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An unloaded LHT feels sluggish compared to a Crosscheck. (I've owned both). I agree with the Salsa Vaya recommendation. I currently own a Salsa La Cruz (very similar to the Vaya, just an earlier version) with disc brakes and it is a great bike. Avid BB7 cable disc brakes are a noticeable improvement in stopping power over V-brakes and a huge leap from cantilevers. They are easier to adjust than either V-brakes or cantilevers and you would have to subject them to extreme conditions to make them fail - conditions that would melt brake pads on other brakes.

On the other hand... the Surly Vaya is one heck of an ugly bike. The LHT looks way better. Also, Jamis has a disc road bike too that might be worth looking into. If you have tons of a money, a carbon framed Volagi would be just the ticket.
The Salsa Vaya in Agent Orange, I think, looks pretty cool but yea, Surly LHT and CC are just classy looking bikes, nice clean lines and simple colors.
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