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Schwalbe Big Apple 2.35 vs CST Cyclops 2.4

Old 06-06-12, 06:41 AM
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Schwalbe Big Apple 2.35 vs CST Cyclops 2.4

This is a repost from the MTB forum. I'm posting it here in hopes that more people will see it.

Have any of you ran both of these tires? I'm interested in which has lower rolling resistance, better ride, etc. I will be putting them on a 2004 Specialized Hardrock Sport with a Surly 1x1 rigid fork, so I should have clearance for the big rubber. I have been able to find lots of reviews of the Big Apples, and almost nothing about the CST Cyclops.

I can basically get 8 Cyclops tires for the price of 2 Big Apples. Is there enough difference between the tires to warrant the difference in price?
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Old 06-07-12, 04:46 PM
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I'm curious about this too.
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Old 09-06-14, 02:35 PM
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The Schwalbe is made in Germany and CST is made in China.


Both are quality tire brands.
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Old 09-06-14, 03:07 PM
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Those are some pretty fat tires.

If it was my bike I'd want to do a test fit before I paid my money. Are you running a front derailleur? What kind of brakes are you using?
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Here's what one retailer gives as descriptions and price:
Product Description Schwalbe Big Apple HS338 26x2.35 RaceGuard $40.80

Kevlar-MB belt puncture protection using a combination of natural rubber and Kevlar fibers
Built-in "suspension" which absorbs over 36% of vibrations at the handlebar
Kevlar-MB belt puncture protection using a combination of natural rubber and Kevlar fibers

Item Specifications
Weight 830g (1.83 lbs)
PSI 20-55PSI
Tire Bead Steel
ISO Diameter 559 / 26" mtn
ISO Width 60mm
Labeled Size 2.35
Color Tread/Side Black/Black
Tire Type Clincher
Tire Diameter 26"
Tire Use Mountain
Defined Color Black

Product Description CST Cyclops Tire - 26 x 2.4 BLK/BSK $14
Compound: Single
ETRTO: 61-559
PSI: 65
Weight: 1010g (2.22 lbs)

You often find CST used on very low priced bikes. The company makes the least expensive tires on the planet. I can't say anything about performance, comfort, or durability as I don't buy the cheapest tires available unless it is for someone else's bike and they asked for them. What you can say is that it is a tire and will get you from place to place.

The Schwalbe Big Apple tires are very popular with recumbent trike riders. They have the "RaceGuard" kevlar belt which is supposed to prevent punctures. The tire is also considerably lighter than the CST tire.

I have never used a Big Apple tire but my own experience with other Schwalbe tires has always been unsatisfactory. They wore out faster than any similarly priced tire, much faster than less expensive tires by Kenda and Mitsubishi Tioga. I had a problem with sidewall bulge on a Schwalbe Durano and never had a similar failure with any other tire with just a few miles (300) on them. My own reasoning is buy moderately priced tires and they will usually prove to be a good choice. Sometimes "more expensive" just means "more profit" for the bike shop and that may be why they feature them.
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Old 09-06-14, 04:11 PM
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I think CST is Chang Star Tire
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Old 09-06-14, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
I think CST is Chang Star Tire
Yup. They're a China tire company making a wide range of rubber products.
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I haven't tried either of those tires, but I'm just going to throw this one out there: Specialized Compound Control tires. I just put them on my Hardrock and I like them a lot. I went with 26x2.2 size. They roll fast, seem to grip well on dirt and wet pavement, and are pretty comfortable. They feel just about as fast as the 1.5" Serfas Drifters I used to run, but my bike seems to ride and handle better with a wider tire. They are a little pricey though at about $30 each.
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Old 09-08-14, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Toadie View Post
I'm interested in which has lower rolling resistance, better ride, etc.
In that case,if you can afford them,you want Marathon Supremes in 2". They're like sportbike radials. If you can get away with less puncture protection,Kojaks are cheaper but still good tires. Either way,Schwalbes are considered premium tires and are higher in quality than CST's.

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The Schwalbe is made in Germany
My first set of Supremes were made in Germany,now they're made in Indonesia. Still good tires,but most Conti's aren't made in Germany anymore,either.
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I can't comment on those 2, but I'll throw out another tire. Kenda K-Rad, 26x2.3. My LBS talked me into a pair when I was riding a 90's mtn bike on the road. They roll REALLY well, they have a sq block tread that rolls like a slick. They are not an off road tire, but fine for trails. I gave away that old bike to a kid. I just built up a Trek 930 as a single speed. Just purchased another set of K-Rad's,just as I remembered
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