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chalkface 06-07-12 10:55 AM

help in identifying a "supposed" giant mountain bike
 
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Hi biker folks.....completely new to both biking and this forum....could use some help not sure if anyone out there can shed some light on this matter but would sure appreciate if anyone can.

im in vietnam and im getting fat....biking seems to be the way to go but there are no decent bikes available here except a few really low-end cannondales...Trail 3 and 4, decent frames but low end parts, and 300 bucks more expensive than back home...and GT aggressors and avalanche, neither of which impress me due to some bad reviews and acera/alivio parts.

It used to be you had to go all the way to thailand to get a decent bike but recently Giant opened a branch in cambodia and they are selling real good models, not just the crappy low end stuff. I emailed a guy who works in the cambodian giant branch and he sent me details of the only second-hand bike the have in stock, which is going for 890 US dollars. I am considering getting a bus over the border and buying the bike, but while doing some research I just cant match the bike he is selling to anything anywhere on the web.

The bike is supposedly a "2011 giant XTC alliance half carbon"..and those are his exact words. I have attached a picture of the bike that he sent me below..(hope it uploads here okay).

Anyway..what has me baffled is the way the seatstays butt into the seattube-bar part of the frame...the seat stays are higher than the point where the cross bar butts into the seat tube bar....its easier to just look at the pic than me try explaining it..should be clear what im getting at cos it looks a bit weird.

I have searched online and cant see any other giant bikes that have this kind of frame...and so i am wondering is this bike kosher or not. It would be a real bummer to go all that way by bus, over the border to another country, and find out the bike is a dud.

I will try upload a photo below...if anyone can help identifying the bike or give any info about i would be very very happy

right here goes (deep breath)

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=254729

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=254728

DCB0 06-07-12 12:19 PM

It does look different than all the XTC Alliance bikes I can find online, but Giant makes many thousands of bikes for many countries, so maybe there were different designes for production runs or something. Having the seat-stays meet the seat tube higher than the top tube is not uncommon in other brands of bikes.

However, how tall are you? That bike is very very small and probably suitable for someone 5'2" to 5'5" max.

chalkface 06-07-12 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by DCB0 (Post 14326292)
It does look different than all the XTC Alliance bikes I can find online, but Giant makes many thousands of bikes for many countries, so maybe there were different designes for production runs or something. Having the seat-stays meet the seat tube higher than the top tube is not uncommon in other brands of bikes.

However, how tall are you? That bike is very very small and probably suitable for someone 5'2" to 5'5" max.

well i guess thats it then, end of story. Im 6 foot 2inches (187cm)......

yes I i also had the idea perhaps it was made for the japanese market, which also has a number of motorbikes that you cant find in the states or in Europe.

The frame thing is confusing these days....it used to be easy...my height was suitable with about a 20inch frame bike...but now frames have the crossbar very angled, butting into the seatpost tube very low, and I have seen online people 6 foot and over saying they own 16" and 17" bikes that fit them perfectly. My mate in the UK has a marin and the frame is something silly small like 15" but fits him fine at 5 foot 10 inches tall. I kind of figured that bike would be something like that...small but you just put the seat post up high.

thanks for replying and pointing that out anyway. I will probably still go and buy a bike but a new one...lower end Giant though. I would buy a top-end second hand bike on ebay and have it shipped out here by courier but its something like 500 dollars...

fietsbob 06-07-12 01:54 PM

+1, Giant, the company, is huge, they make many other brands
under different contracts, for various importers.
Merida is another biggie..

differences are stipulated in the designs submitted..

DCB0 06-07-12 01:56 PM

You must feel like a Vietnamese Godzilla walking around there :)

DCB0 06-07-12 01:58 PM

Also, getting a bike that fits is more important that neeting some arbitrary quality or price level. You will have more fun riding a $50 hybrid that fits than you will riding a $2000 carbon race bike that is 3 sizes too small.

chalkface 06-08-12 03:07 AM


Originally Posted by DCB0 (Post 14326771)
Also, getting a bike that fits is more important that neeting some arbitrary quality or price level. You will have more fun riding a $50 hybrid that fits than you will riding a $2000 carbon race bike that is 3 sizes too small.

good tips indeed....will bear them in mind for sure

yeah i am rather tall compared with locals. A few years back it was more noticable (1995)....used to bang my head on door frames back then and the bus seats were ridiculously small. Everything has gotten bigger past few years, including the people cos they are eating more dairy stuff and western processed crap and in general not everything they ingest now is made from rice. Similar story with the south koreans...I knew a guy worked in pyongyang for unesco and he said south koreans are much bigger than the northerners, who are basically "stunted" (his words),...about 10 years ago singapore government had to rip all the seats out of national buses and replace them with bigger ones....asians are definitley getting bigger

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