Excellent point. I would wear the T-shirt but not the sport specific jersey.

sidenote: Is it poser or poseur?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaa!!!

Hoo boy, I gotta get some air...


:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

The worst I ever saw was a guy who showed up for a century with a sew up disk on the rear. He lived long enough to regret that. I saw him about 20 miles into the ride next to the road trying to fix a flat while the rest of us with our 25 section clinchers kept rolling.

I go with what I experience. I have to say the snob value roadies attach to in wearing fancy team costumes is darned obvious. I encounter several guys regularly on my commute that wear USPS Lance-lookalike gear. If I'm on a shiny, drop-bar roadbike, I might get a nod. On my touring bike, a faint acknowledgement. On the crappy looking fixie, nothing. The MTB towing a trailer... hah!.

Interesting to see such passionate defence of wearing the billboards. You guys really don't like being called poseurs, do you?

I think those guys just like the smell of glue. That's the only thing that explains sewups.

of all the jerseys to wear...USPS will get the most critism. both positive and negative. it's one thing to wear a jersey, get made fun of, and keep riding. but if you wear a jersey, get made fun of, AND get your feelings hurt...then yes, you are a poser.

Yes. How can I make something simple extremely complicated?

No, don't tell me he was trying to patch up his tubular tires********** Yeah, decking out with a full time trial setup would sure cut down your time. :D

BTW, I do train on my tubular wheelset. Nothing fancy. Chris King hubs with Mavic Reflex rims. Rode them on a century. I got Tufo sealant so I wasn't even worrying about flats.

*Damn* (Slaps self in forehead with palm)

So that's it!

You'd have had to have been there. These roads are notoriously crappy. And he was trying to patch the flat. Chris King hubs aren't fancy? I'd hate to pay for your high end stuff.

I think we are getting off topic here but tubular rules!!!!! :) The clincher guys don't know what they are missing. :)

I bet he was running 700x19???? Actually, tubular tires are suitable for crappy road because they can provide more smoother ride even with higher PSI. If crappy means glass and debris other than "rough road," riding tubular may not be a good idea to begin with. Chris King hubs are bomb proof. Not fancy as in fragile.

That's exactly what I was talking about. The rest of us were tourists, which is the only thing I am other than a mountain biker. You've seen the junk we ride around on. My seat weighs more than your bike.

Those Chris King hubs are really nice, though.

Do you think the Justice League of America would get off topic like this?

Bingo.

I ignore these people most of the time, but sometimes I just like to let loose.

Once this summer, some guy passed me and said something about my jersey. It's a mountain bike team jersey! Double poser points for me. So anyway, when he passes I say something along the lines of "Suck my #$%@ @# $%@# @#$%@#$5 B*** #$% @#$%," and then chase him down and ride up right next to him. I'm so close and he gets real nervous from all the yelling that he starts to shake and then drop back. AAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH! He didn't pass me after that even though I was still riding slow as hell.

It all bears on the same thing. Gear can make you as much of a poseur as clothes can. I am not saying Dura Ace (or any other sew up guy) is a poseur but some guys buy gear just to say they have it.

Bottom line, though:

If the guy gets a flat it's his arse, not mine. If a guy has a $100 jersey, what do you care? You didn't pay for it.

:) You know, Tim, you really have matured a lot since the Foo thread that is going to haunt you for a while.

Krispisto...Yeah, the whole argument is silly...One should wear what one wants.No body else's business......Guess, you are a poseur should you think it important..
When touring in Europe I saw lots of cyclists supporting their favorite teams...Don't think there are That many domestiques..

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It's "poseur." Only slackers and 7th graders say "poser."
And nobody's answered my question:
WHY wear someone else's advertising for free?

hehe...yeah, i don't think i'll live that one down for some time. :o

What was that thread all about?

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=79608

looks like it's dying a slow death...finally.

Yeah! I wear mine with pride too. Except, I can't get AB up here in Canada. :( I like the idea of that friendly looking chap holding a mug of ale on the front. I do like my beer though. So I guess I'm drinking it in spirit! I really want to get my hands on Guiness Team Jersey. Mmmm Guiness.... They are available, however only to people who reserved them earlier.

This discussion is old. Wear what ever the hell you want. Its not my place nor anyone else to judge what you wear when your ride or what your level cycling is at. For some people its a need to feel like they belong to something, and want to show commitment. For some people its like a mind thing, motivation what not, they put on the gear and feel transformed. Like, "Hey, I'm wearing this kit, I'm no pro however I will put the best effort into my riding to feel like I deserve to wear it on some level". Some people are insecure about their abilities and compensate by buying the kit and trying to fit in.

I remember watching a series on t.v. a while back called "The Human Animal". It goes all the way back to when humans roamed the planet in tribes and stuck to together as a group. Whether most of us realize it or not, we are trying to be a part of a tribe, find our role and fit it. By wearing the kit and dressing the part that is how some of us achieve this. We can't all be great TdF champions, but we can dress to show that we support and believe in our "cycling tribe" and support our community.

A smaller part of me, also thinks that it should be earned in some respect. I guess getting older has changed my perspective on this point of view. Meaning, if your going to buy the kit and wear it, put in the miles to justify it in some way. Even if you move like a snail. Don't dress like Lance, eat donuts, smoke cigs and stand around the parking lot all day and then go home. As long as you are out there and trying then that is enough for me. We are all poseurs in some way.

I hate wearing jerseys with advertising but they seem to be better quality than the plain ones. Is this generally the way it is or just how my LBS's stock their racks?

People have different attitudes about advertisement..Example..Some at BF want to remove decals from their bikes as to make..I don't understand...I wear my Klein decal with pride along with my Klein Jersey and shorts..I think it is a great bike...Why would I want to keep my Klein a secret..
Do we often feel the same about our Mustang or Honda . I like my VW...Would not take off its' markings...I just don't understand....Maybe some do not even want guests to know they use a Gateway PC...? ! Why?
I wear my Klein Jersey with pride along with my Kit - Bonjour jersey...Just makes me feel good...
Bonjour to all...Bon Nuit too.