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njkayaker

06-28-12 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by not_me (Post 14418735)

I'd expect a "senior member" of a biking forum to be a bit more familiar with how to ride a bike.

It's a bit odd that you attribute any significance to the "senior member" label.

ahsposo

06-28-12 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cocar (Post 14418424)

Hi Neighbor. Tierra Verde is a popular spot for cyclists. You're going to see lots of them there out all the time. It looks like from your pictures that they are riding legally according to Florida's laws, so I'm a little foggy as to what it is you thought they should have done. Crossed at the crosswalk? Is that what you meant?

The OP is a rails to trail rider. I have really enjoyed his posts reporting on trail conditions in FL. I think he may have a little underlying antipathy for roadies.

ahsposo

06-28-12 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spoonrobot (Post 14418732)

If you look into the OP's posting history it looks like he rides exclusively on trails or MUPs and as such may not be aware of how to properly proceed with a bicycle during regular riding on a road.

Yes that's what I think.

Flying Merkel

06-28-12 07:46 PM

I'm always leering of blocking or slowing cars. Even if I'm in the right, it can lead to bad situations.

mulveyr

06-28-12 08:02 PM

Posts like this often make me wonder if someone has taken over a BF account and is trolling...

gecho

06-28-12 08:10 PM

So your beef is that they prevented you from getting to a red light more quickly?

mymojo

06-28-12 08:32 PM

Just for perspective, 1/8th of a mile is roughly 600 ft.

I can see how that is a pretty terrible inconvenience. My guess is that if those frigging' roadies hadn't taken the lane, the OP likely could have punched it and made it through that equally inconvenient red light while it was still yellow.

no1mad

06-28-12 08:38 PM

Perhaps those riders would've been more respectful if the OP was in full kit while astride a Team Issue <insert name of whatever you roadies lust after here>?

ahsposo

06-28-12 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mulveyr (Post 14418959)

Posts like this often make me wonder if someone has taken over a BF account and is trolling...

No I can sort of vouch for this. Check out the Southeast Regional sub-forum. Guy's a trail rider and likes to ride. Just started barking up the wrong tree here is all.

ahsposo

06-28-12 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by no1mad (Post 14419117)

Perhaps those riders would've been more respectful if the OP was in full kit while astride a Team Issue <insert name of whatever you roadies lust after here>?

In his SUV?

JanMM

06-28-12 09:01 PM

Maybe there's more to the story than can be seen in the pics. But I don't think so.

TrailViewMount

06-28-12 09:13 PM

For the record I'll ask a cop what the law and procedure dictates when they see bicyclists riding in car lanes. The answer could be interesting. I knew these photos would be gold for me. Thanks for seeing everyone. Good luck.

lucille

06-28-12 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by not_me (Post 14418735)

In Ontario it's illegal to for cyclists to ride in pedestrian crosswalks. The way these guys are riding is the safest and most legal way. OP, I suggest you learn the rules of the road. I'd expect a "senior member" of a biking forum to be a bit more familiar with how to ride a bike.

You get a "senior member" label after 50 posts, so it's like a chatty weekend and you're there, doesn't really mean a lot ;)

lucille

06-28-12 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrailViewMount (Post 14419248)

I'm not a roadie, but when I commute or tour, I ride in the car lane close to the edge, if it's safe to do so. Where else?

SweetLou

06-28-12 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrailViewMount (Post 14419248)

What's a "car lane"?

Spoonrobot

06-28-12 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrailViewMount (Post 14419248)

How are they gold for you?

Although I suppose they did demonstrate your complete lack of knowledge about bicycle riding on the roadways in Florida so maybe what you learn is the treasure you're referencing?

FYI:

http://www.floridabicycle.org/rules/bikelaw.html

Quote:

In Florida the bicycle is legally defined as a vehicle. Bicyclists have the same rights to the roadways, and must obey the same traffic laws as the operators of other vehicles. These laws include stopping for stop signs and red lights, riding with the flow of traffic, using lights at night, and yielding the right-of-way when entering a roadway.

Rx Rider

06-28-12 09:32 PM

would you rather creep 15 mph behind grandma's Buick, a gaggle of riders or my bug? if the light's red I'm not testing my brakes just to wait that much longer at a signal.

along with the duties of obeying the traffic laws comes the perks of actually being in traffic, hence the name "road bike".

CbadRider

06-28-12 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spoonrobot (Post 14419304)

FYI:

http://www.floridabicycle.org/rules/bikelaw.html

From that link (bolding done by me).

Left Turns (see Section 316.151 (1)(b)(c), F.S.)

A bicyclist intending to make a vehicle left turn is entitled to full use of the lane from which the turn is made. After scanning, signaling, and moving to the center of that lane, the bicyclist must check the signal, then proceed when it is green and safe to do so.
In addition to the normal vehicle left turn, a bicyclist may proceed through the right-most portion of the intersection and turn as close to the curb or edge as possible at the far side. After complying with any official traffic control device, the bicyclist may proceed in the new direction.

no1mad

06-28-12 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ahsposo (Post 14419183)

In his SUV?

Nice catch, as I thought the guy was on a bike myself (I tend to miss a bunch of visual cues).

That being said...OP must've been borderline road rage. I mean, just about everyone on these forums (even if they don't ride on the street with traffic) has heard or read of our accounts and attitudes towards distracted drivers. Yet the OP decided to find his camera and get it ready or find his phone and launch camera mode- then take the time to ensure the riders were in frame while looking at the little display, while operating a motorized vehicle??

Question- What do you think would've been the outcome if one of those cyclists had experienced a catastrophic failure like the handlebar snapping, the frame broke, or the chain broke and got tangled in the rear wheel somehow? The odds aren't good, even if he didn't hit the cyclist(s), because a) he was steering with one hand (and hopefully not with elbows/forearms) and b) wasn't doing a good job of monitoring his mirrors because he was too frackin' intent on taking pictures while he was driving <--That's what I call performing an action that distracts a person while operating a motor vehicle.

mulveyr

06-28-12 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahsposo (Post 14419179)

No I can sort of vouch for this. Check out the Southeast Regional sub-forum. Guy's a trail rider and likes to ride. Just started barking up the wrong tree here is all.

... And who is now posting complaints on completely unrelated videos on my YouTube channel about my BF comment...

chasm54

06-28-12 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrailViewMount (Post 14419248)

Yahoos? Gold for you? The only things that are clear, here, are:

1. You have an anger management problem;

2. You have no idea how to ride a bike on the road.

Broid

06-29-12 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flying Merkel (Post 14418907)

I'm always leering of blocking or slowing cars. Even if I'm in the right, it can lead to bad situations.

not_me

06-29-12 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chasm54 (Post 14419441)

Yahoos? Gold for you? The only things that are clear, here, are:

1. You have an anger management problem;

2. You have no idea how to ride a bike on the road.

I feel like he didn't even read any of the responses. I'm pretty sure everyone told him he was in the wrong to be angry about a cyclist proceeding legally on the road, yet he still answered "I knew these photos would be gold for me. Thanks for seeing everyone."

chandltp

06-29-12 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrailViewMount (Post 14419248)

While you're at it, ask him what he thinks about people taking pictures while operating a motor vehicle.

I've met more than a few cops that don't know how the laws pertain to bicycles.

njkayaker

06-29-12 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrailViewMount (Post 14419248)

Why don't you just look up the FL bicycle law? (Cops sometimes don't quite know the law.)

http://www.dot.state.fl.us/safety/pe...bikeLaws1.shtm

Quote:

A person operating a bicycle on a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic under the conditions existing must ride in the lane marked for bicycle use or, if no lane is marked for bicycle use, as close as practicable [safe] to the roadway's right-hand curb or edge, except under any of the following situations:

when passing another vehicle
when preparing for a left turn
when reasonably necessary to avoid conditions including (but not limited to), a fixed or moving object, parked or moving vehicle, pedestrian, animal, or surface hazard
when a lane is too narrow for a bicycle and another vehicle to travel safely side by side.

Since it appears that you have no real idea how ride on the road, you might find this useful:

http://www.bikexprt.com/streetsmarts/usa/index.htm

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