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Old 07-27-12, 04:06 PM
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Elliptigo 3c vs 8c

My wife is interested in getting an Elliptigo. The 3c is a three speed and the 8c is an 8 speed. We live in the Houston area where it is flat. Some of the charity and group rides I do, and hopefully she will also, are west of Houston where it gets more hilly. Does anyone out there have experience with Elliptigos and can attest to how the 3c vs. 8c perform on hills (maybe 4-5% grade)? Test riding both on the flats really proves nothing, it's the hills I'm worried about. The price difference between the two is significant, $750, with the only difference being the gearing.
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Old 07-27-12, 04:44 PM
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With respect to hill climbing, it appears it would be like standing on a bike.

https://www.elliptigo.com/

8 speed

33 - 102 gear inches
1.6 - 7.5 gear ratio

Lowest gear a bit higher than 34f/28r ** (31.8 gear inches) on a 23mm/700c wheel bicycle.

3 speed

58 - 103 gear inches
0.75 - 1.33 gear ratio

Lowest gear is in between 34f/16r (55.8 gear inches) and 34f/15r (59.6 gear inches) on a 23mm/700c wheel bicycle.

If the effort is anything like that on a bicycle, the 8 speed would be better for hills and longer "rides" with hills.

** The first number (f) is the chain ring, the second number (r) is the cassette cog.

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I saw a bunch of Elliptigos on Ragbrai this year, and it's hilly. You'll be fine.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott View Post
I saw a bunch of Elliptigos on Ragbrai this year, and it's hilly. You'll be fine.
??? Fine with what? The three speed or the eight speed?
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Originally Posted by njkayaker View Post
??? Fine with what? The three speed or the eight speed?
Yes.
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Old 07-30-12, 09:10 AM
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Yes.
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Originally Posted by njkayaker View Post
???
Nobody appreciates brevity anymore.

My point was that either one should work in Houston.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott View Post
Nobody appreciates brevity anymore.

My point was that either one should work in Houston.
It's so brief as to nearly lack any information what-so-ever! You really don't provide anything to "appreciate".

He's not looking for it work work just in Huston. Even he realizes the 3 speed would work there.

If the effort is anything like bicycling, then the 3 speed would not work very well where I typically ride (norther NJ/southern NY).

If it's anything like bicycles, the gearing for the 3 speed is much too high to be generally useful.

The 8 speed is geared like a bicycle with a compact (34 tooth small ring and 28 rear cog). That's much more useful gearing for hills. It's not even as low as one could go on a bicycle (I have done hills where that would not be quite low enough).

Of course, we don't know how strong his wife is or what particular hills they are planning on going up. They also are talking about longish rides: she might appreciate the lower gears on long rides if she happens to be tired at the end.

I'm not sure if it makes sense saving $750 to get something that might force her to walk.

Originally Posted by ThermionicScott View Post
I saw a bunch of Elliptigos on Ragbrai this year, and it's hilly. You'll be fine.
https://www.bikingbis.com/2012/01/29/...e-tour-routes/

2012 RAGBRAI: 11th flattest.

The most difficult day will no doubt be the fifth, from Marshalltown to Cedar Rapids. It's the hilliest, at 3,576 feet, and the longest, at 84.8 miles.
And we have no idea how the Elliptigo riders fared or where his wife would fit. It's not even clear what percentage were 3 speeds.

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Originally Posted by njkayaker View Post
He's not looking for it work work just in Huston. Even he realizes the 3 speed would work there.
Correct. He said "west of Houston", where it gets slightly less flat.

If the effort is anything like bicycling, then the 3 speed would not work very well where I typically ride (norther NJ/southern NY).

If it's anything like bicycles, the gearing for the 3 speed is much too high to be generally useful.

The 8 speed is geared like a bicycle with a compact (34 tooth small ring and 28 rear cog). That's much more useful gearing for hills. It's not even as low as one could go on a bicycle (I have done hills where that would not be quite low enough).

Of course, we don't know how strong his wife is or what particular hills they are planning on going up. They also are talking about longish rides: she might appreciate the lower gears on long rides if she happens to be tired at the end.

I'm not sure if it makes sense saving $750 to get something that might force her to walk.
But it's not "like a bicycle" and that's the whole point. You're already jogging or just walking on the thing.

https://www.bikingbis.com/2012/01/29/...e-tour-routes/

2012 RAGBRAI: 11th flattest.

And we have no idea how the Elliptigo riders fared or where his wife would fit. It's not even clear what percentage were 3 speeds.
Way to use the Google. Since every Ragbrai starts on the Missouri River and ends on the Mississippi, there are steep hills for each one, even if the overall amount of climb varies.

As for the OP (you still there?), you can always play it safe and get the 8-speed model. I certainly don't want to give njkayaker an aneurism here.
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I'm still here reading the replies and appreciate the feedback. She hasn't been on a bike in years and does not run. She doesn't want a bike, but would like to join on club and charity rides. The Elliptigo really appeals to her and it does look neat. I do think it is nuts that i cost that much for a cassette with 5 more gears.
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Well, they all use internal-gear hubs. While 11-gear Shimano hubs are quite a lot more expensive than the 3-gear SA hubs, it looks like they're doing other things to make the 11R the "premium" model and the 3C the "base" model, with the 8C in between.

If you don't mind getting your hands dirty, you could always buy the 3C and if it's not geared low enough, it's possible to change the sprocket on the hub, bringing the overall gearing down. (Plenty of folks do that on their English 3-speeds.)
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More gears

you can never go wrong with more gears. If your wife intends to use the bike fairly regularly I believe she will quickly out grow the three gears. In fact, she may out grow the eight gear cassette as well. I am hooked on mine and I have the 8c. I live in Florida where it's flat so we invent our hills. Ie. Bridges, garbage dumps, etc. I am actively looking at converting my rear cassette to 11 or 12 and potentially chamging the front ring to two or even three gears. More gears equate to more consistency of speed and comfort for the rider. Go with the right!
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My wife is interested in getting an Elliptigo. The 3c is a three speed and the 8c is an 8 speed. We live in the Houston area where it is flat. Some of the charity and group rides I do, and hopefully she will also, are west of Houston where it gets more hilly. Does anyone out there have experience with Elliptigos and can attest to how the 3c vs. 8c perform on hills (maybe 4-5% grade)? Test riding both on the flats really proves nothing, it's the hills I'm worried about. The price difference between the two is significant, $750, with the only difference being the gearing.
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I have never ridden one, and never seen one on any of the group or organized rides I have done. I have passed several while I was doing organized rides and they were not. They don't seem as fast as a bike. Would they be able to keep up on a group ride?
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I have never ridden one, and never seen one on any of the group or organized rides I have done. I have passed several while I was doing organized rides and they were not. They don't seem as fast as a bike. Would they be able to keep up on a group ride?
I've seen a few on century rides but they weren't riding with a group. I suspect they'd have similar issues that many recumbent riders have - if they're with a group that they can just keep up with on one type of terrain they'll either leave those riders behind or be dropped when the terrain changes.

But I'm sure the OP has resolved his original 3-spd vs. 8-spd issue a few years ago.
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