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DieselDan 01-29-05 06:40 PM

You are NOT required to carry ID when you ride, but it's a damn good idea to do so.

flyingscotsman 01-29-05 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by R600DuraAce
Sorry. That's too late for that. I have been here for 20 years. I have already deconstructed race and ethnicity in American like the back of my hand. The conclusion is quite simple. If you are "white," you are automatically assumed to be an American. That also explains why when "white" Americans travel to another European country the natives consider them to be arrogant and rude. The concept of "white" is an inclusive idea which assume its form in culture, race, and identity. While it is so inclusive may have some other motives whichis beyond the scope of this message board. That concept or construction is as cloudy as a pool of mud. The same paradigm can't be applied to the Asian since Asians in general are not that intermixed historically and culturally.

Try living in Miami, they think everyone speaks spanish regardless of what you look like, I work with a lady from Singapore and I am the most unhispanic looking person and both off us reguarly get spoken to in Spanish.

My collegue quite often speaks chinese to them in reply just to see the looks she gets.

When I reply I just broaden my scots accent and tell them what I think off them, people who know me and can usually understand my broad accent crack up.

slvoid 01-29-05 10:31 PM

How did this end up in general, wasn't this in Foo?

R600DuraAce 01-29-05 10:44 PM

That's scary stuff. :) I am getting sick just by thinking of it. :) Is messed up.


Originally Posted by Ziemas
So true. Once I was crossing the Mexico and US border on foot with my wife, who is a blonde Latvian. Entering Mexico was no problem. As a Latvian she needed a visa, but no one asked. We were just waved across the border. Comng back into America all the people who were not white were stopped. All the white people were asked by American border guards "American?". If you said "yes" you were waved through. My wife being the honest person that she is said, "No, I'm Latvian" The border guard seemed shocked and confused. He didn't want to deal with this. He grudgingly took her aside for a moment and looked at her passport. She was waved through. Some border security.


R600DuraAce 01-29-05 10:49 PM

Yes, is skillfully done. :) That's what you have to learn to do in my line of business. I work in the "entertainment industry." :)


Originally Posted by CAAD5AL
Doesn't sounds like he was THAT rude to the guy, really . . . just asked if he'd ever been to Hong Kong. BTW, R600, what business are you in?


Rowan 01-29-05 11:42 PM

Irrespective of your racial background, the fact that you have chosen to post this rubbish both here and on other forums indicates to me you are a very immature little individual who plays with himself and the truth.

R600DuraAce 01-30-05 12:00 AM

Is the truth. My experience and the interaction with this individual is a reflection of a greater social issue or social illness of some part of this country. I was a psychology major which a significant understand about social history and social psychology.


Originally Posted by Rowan
Irrespective of your racial background, the fact that you have chosen to post this rubbish both here and on other forums indicates to me you are a very immature little individual who plays with himself and the truth.


Rowan 01-30-05 12:47 AM

Trotting out your academic "achievements" does little to rejoinder my post.

You know, one of the things I admire about Asians and people of Asian background is that they have respect for their elders. Even if their elders are senile, even if their elders seem to have mislaid their judgment, even if their elders don't quite behave the way that is expected. Rather than make fun of elders in public forums, there is forgiveness and understanding.

You appear, sir, to trade on your ethnicity to make fun of others who may just share the same problems of ignorance and bias of which you complain.

J-McKech 01-30-05 01:05 AM

I find it hard to believe that R600 tried in anyway to hurt this old man's feelings. I feel that he, as an asian-american, got tired of all the BS that happens day in and day out and decided to give a little taste of the guys own medicine. I hate to say this but old people can be extremely rude people. I don't care about the old saying "respect your elders", if they have no respect for a person then they get none in return. The old man showed blante disrespect towards him and he, in return, gave him a bit of his own medicine.

Rowan 01-30-05 01:18 AM


Originally Posted by HammerTheHill
... this old man's feelings.

As soon as you say this, you display the same bias.

QED

J-McKech 01-30-05 01:36 AM

How can I display bias by saying "old man's feelings." That isn't bias, its a statment. If I say, "the asian man was sad", is this bias? No, I was simpling stating what i saw/heard/felt whatever the case may be. Or we could twist it and say that everything has bias no matter how you say it.

Rowan 01-30-05 02:39 AM


Originally Posted by HammerTheHill
Or we could twist it and say that everything has bias no matter how you say it.

Maybe you have learned something today.

nycm'er 01-30-05 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by Rowan
You know, one of the things I admire about Asians and people of Asian background is that they have respect for their elders. .

Isn't the above a generalized comment of the same nature that you are complaining about?

What was the weather like when you were in Ireland? Because I can tell you are Irish by your name and your indignance. Right?

R600DuraAce 01-30-05 08:47 AM

Yeah, as soon as he said that, I knew he is sick. His world knowledge is limited. His worldly wisdom is half filled. Also, when you are well aged, you should also be wise and to have bath in worldly wisdom. Not to act like an assclown. I only worship the elders who walked the same path that we both did.


Originally Posted by nycm'er
Isn't the above a generalized comment of the same nature that you are complaining about?

What was the weather like when you were in Ireland? Because I can tell you are Irish by your name and your indignance. Right?


oldspark 01-30-05 09:10 AM

Have any or you rode your bikes lately? LOL

R600DuraAce 01-30-05 09:28 AM

No. :( Total 7 days.


Originally Posted by oldspark
Have any or you rode your bikes lately? LOL


nycm'er 01-30-05 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by oldspark
Have any or you rode your bikes lately? LOL

Good point, very good point, just went and got Bagels on the Square, great time for a ride.

brokenrobot 01-30-05 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by R600DuraAce
I needed him to show me his state issued idea.

Thank God New York is issuing ideas now - without the state-issued one, this guy would be COMPLETELY clueless! ;)

brokenrobot 01-30-05 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by Rowan
Irrespective of your racial background, the fact that you have chosen to post this rubbish both here and on other forums indicates to me you are a very immature little individual who plays with himself and the truth.


Wow. I don't think I've ever seen a less necessary or more aggressive personal attack on this forum. Shame!


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