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CLEAR PLASTIC bike?
just read this in msn.
they are experimenting with clear plastic to make a bike frame. could be stronger and lighter than any bike made. http://innovationforendurance.msn.co...ling/256393567 |
Originally Posted by mrt2you
(Post 15333172)
just read this in msn.
they are experimenting with clear plastic to make a bike frame. could be stronger and lighter than any bike made. http://innovationforendurance.msn.co...ling/256393567 |
Cost, I'd assume.
The bicycle market can afford absurdly expensive materials, most of the automotive market cannot. |
my brifters, BB, crank/chainrings weigh a lot more than my frame. i think this just a crass, transparent (:roflmao2:) marketing ploy to drum up business.
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Nuttin' new. They've had clear bikes in China for years.
http://www.petapixel.com/assets/uplo...bike1_mini.jpg |
How cool would it be to put lights in the frame.
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Originally Posted by digger531
(Post 15333814)
How cool would it be to put lights in the frame.
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"Ulrich and his colleagues believe that the Clarity Bike could be a giant leap forward in bicycle frame engineering and production, taking advantage of the material's impact resistance, light weight, and gentle flexibility that, "usually would only be expected on an old Italian steel bicycle frame."
Translation: It's a noodle. |
Originally Posted by BlazingPedals
(Post 15333799)
Nuttin' new. They've had clear bikes in China for years.
http://www.petapixel.com/assets/uplo...bike1_mini.jpg |
Originally Posted by digger531
(Post 15333814)
How cool would it be to put lights in the frame.
Sorry, dont remember which. |
So the problem with this is that polymers, over long periods of time, undergoes phase separation, and crystallization as its molecules realign themselves over the period decades. If you take rubber for instance, it becomes crusty and cracks. But I'm not an expert on this. There are probably additives they add to the polymer blend that calcifies the resulting material. But I can see how polymers can make a break into the market as racing bikes, provided they can provide the right weight and flex that riders prefer.
btw. I think there is a push to putting more polymeric materials into automobiles these days. Some metal parts only need to be so strong, but they carry extra weight. Getting rid of these metal parts and replacing them with plastic helps shave off gas consumption, and bring up that mpg. |
Originally Posted by spectastic
(Post 15339704)
So the problem with this is that polymers, over long periods of time, undergoes phase separation, and crystallization as its molecules realign themselves over the period decades. If you take rubber for instance, it becomes crusty and cracks. But I'm not an expert on this. There are probably additives they add to the polymer blend that calcifies the resulting material. But I can see how polymers can make a break into the market as racing bikes, provided they can provide the right weight and flex that riders prefer.
btw. I think there is a push to putting more polymeric materials into automobiles these days. Some metal parts only need to be so strong, but they carry extra weight. Getting rid of these metal parts and replacing them with plastic helps shave off gas consumption, and bring up that mpg. On the other hand - bakelite and styrofoam are both polymers and will probably be around longer than I will! :( |
Bakelite lasts forever... as long as you don't drop it! :lol:
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Cyclist on a bike you can see is almost invisible as it is.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
(Post 15342295)
Bakelite lasts forever... as long as you don't drop it! :lol:
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hey, I get it that there are various types of polymer, but all polymers are essentially the same. I'm just giving my two cents about what I know. The reason why they call it carbon fiber and not polymeric bicycle is because carbon fiber is by far the strongest additive that contributes to the strength of the frame. These fibers are one step below diamonds, but they're fibers after all, hence why they have different stress ratings at different angles. You're talking about having no skeleton to support the frame, just a pure polymeric blend. If they're able to make something as strong as they claim, then kudos to them. But I'm going to have to see some proof before being convinced to actually ride one. And for the record, plastic, synthetic rubber, glass... They're all polymers... I mean I have no doubt that there's a special recipe out there that can be turned into a strong bike that will last decades, and be cheap to manufacture.
And it would be pretty awesome if they can integrate some sort of lighting into the frame. Stick a couple of LED's in the frame and some AA batteries in the seat stem, and be good for a couple of months. That would be pretty cool. Have the lights blink in series in a circle to save some power, and get you noticed. |
Originally Posted by BlazingPedals
(Post 15333799)
Nuttin' new. They've had clear bikes in China for years.
http://www.petapixel.com/assets/uplo...bike1_mini.jpg |
Originally Posted by digger531
(Post 15333814)
How cool would it be to put lights in the frame.
http://cdn.instructables.com/FR0/EWU...FXWT.LARGE.jpg The instructions on how to build it are here. |
Originally Posted by Artkansas
(Post 15344778)
Like this?
http://cdn.instructables.com/FR0/EWU...FXWT.LARGE.jpg The instructions on how to build it are here. |
that's pretty neat. but looks a lot of work, and wires.
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