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Old 03-18-13, 06:54 PM
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Stopping / Starting pedal technique

Hi,

The classic method is to unseat onto one foot, the other
at the bottom of the stroke, and then use the other foot
by hooking underneath to lift the pedal into a high
position for taking off on the first power stroke.

An alternative is instead of hooking with your other foot
you use it on the pedal to push and flip the pedal forward
and then stand on that. The pedal angle although lower
will still get you onto the saddle, but now the first real
power stroke will the other leg. The real advantage
is you can use the technique with any footwear,
you don't use the top of your shoe at all.

Given the choice of the two methods I think
I prefer the latter, except for very hilly starts.

rgds, sreten.

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Old 03-18-13, 10:29 PM
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I've been using the one with the pedal up high at a 9 o'clock position. That way on the first stroke i have some power to move when the light turns green
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On my bike with a coaster brake, I typically approach the stop using the coaster brake to slow down, with my right pedal in the 9:00 position or so, then make the actual stop with my front brake, while bringing the right pedal to about 2:00. Right foot stays on the pedal, left on the ground.
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new to riding bicycles, some 4 - 5 months. On my Peugeot triathlon I have 'Premium' bmx platform pedals and not worrying on technique.
On my Fuji touring I have some shimano spd and I have not improved the pedaling technique and I've fallen twice that I am thinking on getting some bmx platforms or some cages like the mks touring without the toe clips or straps. And the reason I want to use cages or platforms instead of the spd is because of stopping accidents; yesterday on a traffic light and a couple of months ago at a parking lot. I guess what I am saying has to be with technique or forgetting it on very important moments.
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My left foot remains clipped in. When I come to a stop, I simply lift my left foot and the pedal comes with it. Then I push off with that left foot.
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Old 03-19-13, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Machka View Post
My left foot remains clipped in. When I come to a stop, I simply lift my left foot and the pedal comes with it. Then I push off with that left foot.
Yup.

Or remain seated with both feet clipped in and trackstanding at a stop.
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Y'all stop?

I just got a N+1 bike with coaster brake, so pedals don't spin freely while stopped. From my brief first 6 km ride with it, agmetal is spot on, one has to plan ahead with this setup. Front pedal in 10 or 2 position (depending on where you look from), rear pedal foot on ground.

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Originally Posted by Juha View Post
Y'all stop?

I just got a N+1 bike with coaster brake, so pedals don't spin freely while stopped. From my brief first 6 km ride with it, agmetal is spot on, one has to plan ahead with this setup. Front pedal in 10 or 2 position (depending on where you look from), rear pedal foot on ground.

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Last time I rode a coaster brake was maybe 45 years ago? Anyway, as I recall, the usual method was to roll the bike backward a bit to lift the appropriate pedal to the desired starting position. That was with flat pedals. Clipped in with coaster brakes would be kinda weird, IMO.

Another method, advocated by my father, was to stand beside the bike, put the appropriate foot on the pedal on that side, push off with the opposite foot to get rolling, stand on the foot on the pedal, then swing the free leg over the bike. You can do the reverse in dismounting, as is commonly done in CX nowadays. I still mount and dismount like this on occasion on my road and mt bikes, just for the heck of it.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
You couldn't pay me...
I wouldn't. There's a difference.
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Honestly, when I got that bike, I thought I'd hate the coaster, and was planning to keep it set aside until I had the funds to get a nice modern 3-speed wheel for it. Decided to take it out for a couple rides as it was, with the single-speed coaster setup, and ended up really liking the coaster brake once I got a feel for it.
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Originally Posted by Machka View Post
My left foot remains clipped in. When I come to a stop, I simply lift my left foot and the pedal comes with it. Then I push off with that left foot.
Other way 'round for me. Right foot clipped in, left foot doesn't have to reach so far down on a sharply crowned road.

Is there some reason you keep the left foot clipped, or is this a to-MAY-to vs. to-MAH-to thing?
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Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
You couldn't pay me to ride a bike with a coaster brake...just sayin'
How about fixie?
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Originally Posted by sreten View Post
Hi,

The classic method is to unseat onto one foot, the other
at the bottom of the stroke, and then use the other foot
by hooking underneath to lift the pedal into a high
position for taking off on the first power stroke.

An alternative is instead of hooking with your other foot
you use it on the pedal to push and flip the pedal forward
and then stand on that. The pedal angle although lower
will still get you onto the saddle, but now the first real
power stroke will the other leg. The real advantage
is you can use the technique with any footwear,
you don't use the top of your shoe at all.

Given the choice of the two methods I think
I prefer the latter, except for very hilly starts.

rgds, sreten.
Thanks for the information.
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Theres another one , the running, flying leap onto the saddle , landing with the inside of upper thigh on the saddle,
then flipping both toeclip pedals over, at the same time,* and riding hard to the next barrier ,
where you have to jump off and get over that, then repeat.

* SPuD pedals and shoes and shoes eliminated that..

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Originally Posted by Looigi View Post
How about fixie?
Different kettle of fish. But meh. Had one. Didn't see what all the hype is about.
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Originally Posted by pdlamb View Post
Other way 'round for me. Right foot clipped in, left foot doesn't have to reach so far down on a sharply crowned road.

Is there some reason you keep the left foot clipped, or is this a to-MAY-to vs. to-MAH-to thing?
Left foot clipped in. If you are going to fall over while clipped in, you fall away from traffic. Less squishage that way.
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Left foot clipped in. If you are going to fall over while clipped in, you fall away from traffic. Less squishage that way.
This, plus most times, I can continue to stay seated and put my right foot on the curb. This allows me to look around casually like I'm cool and totally know what I'm doing - I'm tempted to break out my cellphone and start texting or playing angry birds like most of the drivers I see at stop lights.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
Left foot clipped in. If you are going to fall over while clipped in, you fall away from traffic. Less squishage that way.
Interesting thought, I leave my left foot clipped in when I ride in England. The only time I've come close to falling over was when I tipped to the left. As it happened it was when I was in the middle of the road, so had I fallen over it would have been right in front of passing traffic - I was stopped in the middle of the road waiting to turn right.
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Why is this even a thread? There's no wrong way to stop or start;as long as you don't fall over,you're doing it right.

I have absolutely no idea how I come to a stop,it's so automatic I never think about it.
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... to ride a bike with a coaster brake ...
I , shamelessly. grab a rental outside the LBS to Go Get Lunch .

.. the non rental, Sun Spider 2 speed coaster, fat bike is a hoot.!

One gets used on the beach to stalk Clams.. the mighty quarry..

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Interesting thought, I leave my left foot clipped in when I ride in England. The only time I've come close to falling over was when I tipped to the left. As it happened it was when I was in the middle of the road, so had I fallen over it would have been right in front of passing traffic - I was stopped in the middle of the road waiting to turn right.
ditto.. i fell once and it was (obviously) to the side that was still clipped in. left, ie, towards passing traffic.

the thing i hate is having to un-clip at the light (actually before getting there, just in case i get stuck...) while having to down-shift. sometimes i dont pedal enough (while simultaneously unclipping) to be completely down-shifted by the time i get to the light/car in front of me. starting up again when the bike still needs to get in gear sucks
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Originally Posted by pdlamb View Post
Other way 'round for me. Right foot clipped in, left foot doesn't have to reach so far down on a sharply crowned road.

Is there some reason you keep the left foot clipped, or is this a to-MAY-to vs. to-MAH-to thing?
When I learned to ride a bicycle, I learned to leave my right foot on the pedal, and put my left foot on the ground when I came to a stop.

When I got clipless pedals, I was told that I would have to switch feet ... that it is easier to clip in with my dominant foot. And I was told that since I am mostly right-handed, my dominant foot was my right foot. So the advice was that I leave the left foot clipped in, and unclip and re-clip with the right foot.

It took me a while, and a couple falls, to retrain myself, but I did it.


But it is a to-MAY-to vs. to-MAH-to thing ... it really doesn't matter. Whatever feels comfortable for you. I've known some people who don't seem to have a preference at all ... they'll clip out either foot or both sometimes.

As far as the sharply crowned road thing, I ride in all sorts of countries, on whichever side of the road is appropriate. And I'm not about to switch feet based on which country I'm in.
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When I first got my clipless pedals I cycled up and down a few local roads, clipping in and unclipping to get the feel for how the whole thing worked before going anywhere that might need me to unclip in a hurry. When I stop I put my right foot down, purely through force of habit. So the first time I decided to unclip my left foot and put it down I applied the brakes, slowed to a near stop, instinctively unclipped my right foot and then tried to put my left foot down.

Not surprisingly it didn't work out too well. Luckily my LBS had swapped my single-release cleats for multi-release cleats and everything was set to the loosest possible tension so when I realised I was tipping over and just pulled my foot hard, the pedal let go and I was saved the embarrassment of performing my first ever swan dive in the road.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
Different kettle of fish. But meh. Had one. Didn't see what all the hype is about.
Me neither, actually. I get my fixie fix on the spinning bikes at the gym. Now, if I was 30+ years younger and living in the city, a fixie would de rigueur.
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