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Originally Posted by Ferrous Bueller
(Post 15582791)
Ridiculous to us both, but that's exactly what's behind the latest wave of helmet upgrade-itis.
I will say though I see hundreds of riders on our rides and I have never seen anybody wearing one of these yet. I'll have to keep my eyes open since it's a new item. Helmet for a TT'ist maybe but on the road? :D |
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Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz
(Post 15584186)
I searched the helmet and yeah, that seems pretty silly, free dose of speed? So going without helmet is what, even more free speed? :D
I will say though I see hundreds of riders on our rides and I have never seen anybody wearing one of these yet. I'll have to keep my eyes open since it's a new item. Helmet for a TT'ist maybe but on the road? :D super expensive time trial helmets like that have been around for years and years but are obviously not what the op meant by expensive helmets its like if someone asked why people pay so much money for fancy cars and someone responds they are useless because they arent even road legal http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=314525 |
Helmet for a TT'ist maybe but on the road? Ventilation is being sacrificed in the name of aerodynamics. |
Originally Posted by Ferrous Bueller
(Post 15584283)
Yes. Google 'road aero helmet images'. Or watch a bike race.
Ventilation is being sacrificed in the name of aerodynamics. those helmets are not worn in mass start road mtb or cx races ever |
Originally Posted by Wilfred Laurier
(Post 15584292)
only time trials
those helmets are not worn in mass start road mtb or cx races ever |
Originally Posted by Wilfred Laurier
(Post 15584279)
super expensive time trial helmets like that have been around for years and years
but are obviously not what the op meant by expensive helmets FB brought up that TT looking helmet, that is why I said I have never seen anybody wearing one out on the road. ;) |
Here's a discussion among BFers contemplating the merits of these new generation helmets.
For the record, my helmet was not expensive, but is very well vented and fits my head. If any of you had to pay a lot to achieve this, I offer my condolences. |
Originally Posted by Ferrous Bueller
(Post 15584384)
For the record, my helmet was not expensive, but is very well vented and fits my head. If any of you had to pay a lot to achieve this, I offer my condolences.
Again, I have several helmets of all levels, they all fit and they all have vents but the better models Giro Pneumos and Ionos are far better on more demanding rides. So much so that even after a while you don't want to waste your time wearing a cheap helmet on short rides. ;) Really, what model helmet are you wearing? Maybe I have one and can do a ride by ride comparison. :p |
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Originally Posted by Ferrous Bueller
(Post 15584296)
but as a recall the one guy not wearing a helmet still won i think his bike got stolen soon after and he may have run into a little legal trouble in florida after that http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=314543 |
Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz
(Post 15584485)
Really, what model helmet are you wearing? Maybe I have one and can do a ride by ride comparison. :p
Sorry if I've touched a nerve. You spent a lot on your helmet and are happy it. That's terrific. But stop pretending to be an authority on helmets. It's embarrassing to witness. |
Originally Posted by Wilfred Laurier
(Post 15584649)
this is the only pic i could find of a mass start race with aero helmets
http://cdn.mos.bikeradar.com/images/...xlq-360-70.jpg http://velonews.competitor.com/files...ds-571x421.jpg (if you'd followed my earlier instructions, you'd have seen all these) |
Originally Posted by Ferrous Bueller
(Post 15584693)
Sorry if I've touched a nerve. You spent a lot on your helmet and are happy it. That's terrific. But stop pretending to be an authority on helmets. It's embarrassing to witness.
The OP wold probably have bought the helmet and had a better cycling experiences wearing it but thanks to your lack of experience and meaningless reviews of something you've never had, he just may never enjoy the benefits of a good helmet. That ignorance is the embarrassment. |
oh i did the search you suggested and saw all these but they arent the same thing
firstly one of these people are wearing the Giro helmet pictured earlier the astana one seems to have nothing in common with the giro helmet full of vents and no visor the scott helmet might be more aerodynamic than the average road bike helmet but does not have the visor that is only found on tt helmets the only thing it has in common with the giro helmet is that it has fewer vents than most the guy in the last one doesnt have any sort of aero helmet just a cover on a standard road helmet you have failed to prove your point you are probably just too cheap to admit you might get something for your money if you pay more than 25 bucks for a helmet but thats ok i still love you :love: |
Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz
(Post 15584727)
Sorry man, you didn't touch a nerve and I am not trying to be an authority on helmets. I am merely trying to show the OP that your silly opinions on helmets you have never owned are useless.
Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz
(Post 15584727)
Obviously you don't own and never have owned a good helmet so you should not be posting useless silly comments on there not being a difference as you really have no idea. ;)
I'm not saying that there aren't differences between helmets. I'm saying that one cannot judge their suitability based on price alone. If you wish to say otherwise, I'll leave you to it. |
general rule of thumb:
those defending overtly expensive equipment usually spent the money to buy them. On the other hand, those who bash on overtly expensive equipment has not spend the money.... yet. Is this a correct statement? |
Originally Posted by Wilfred Laurier
(Post 15584770)
i still love you :love:
But they're all road aero helmets. Including the one on Wiggins (it's not a cover - those are illegal). They all aim to reduce air resistance at the cost of ventilation. I introduced the concept as a counterpoint to those of you who seemed to think that more money necessitated better ventilation. Still kind of surprised that nobody watched the Tour last year. I spend lots of money on various things. It just happens that on helmets I recently haven't. |
Originally Posted by Ferrous Bueller
(Post 15584844)
(it's not a cover - those are illegal).
There are covers in the UCI. For the teams, the cover has to be permanent to be within UCI rules, so Lotto-Belisol riders are wearing Lazer’s with the cover glued on at the factory. http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/...noggins_227475 |
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Originally Posted by Wilfred Laurier
(Post 15584292)
only time trials
those helmets are not worn in mass start road mtb or cx races ever Bottom one may be a standard helmet with a cover, but the top one isn't. |
Originally Posted by Wilfred Laurier
(Post 15584770)
oh i did the search you suggested and saw all these but they arent the same thing
firstly one of these people are wearing the Giro helmet pictured earlier the astana one seems to have nothing in common with the giro helmet full of vents and no visor the scott helmet might be more aerodynamic than the average road bike helmet but does not have the visor that is only found on tt helmets the only thing it has in common with the giro helmet is that it has fewer vents than most the guy in the last one doesnt have any sort of aero helmet just a cover on a standard road helmet you have failed to prove your point you are probably just too cheap to admit you might get something for your money if you pay more than 25 bucks for a helmet but thats ok i still love you :love: |
Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz
(Post 15584727)
Sorry man, you didn't touch a nerve and I am not trying to be an authority on helmets. I am merely trying to show the OP that your silly opinions on helmets you have never owned are useless. Obviously you don't own and never have owned a good helmet so you should not be posting useless silly comments on their not being a difference as you really have no idea. ;)
The OP would probably have bought the helmet and had a better cycling experiences wearing it but thanks to your lack of experience and meaningless reviews of something you've never had, he just may never enjoy the benefits of a good helmet. That ignorance is the embarrassment. However, once I can get my distances longer on a more consistent basis and I'm on my bike for 3, 4 or more hours at a time, I may find I need a lighter / better helmet, along with other things to lighten the load, maybe even a lighter bike. :) |
I started with a $25 Bell helmet from Walmart. Thought I'd upgrade, when I found a normally-$99 Bell helmet on sale online for $54. Some upgrade! The more expensive helmet weighs an ounce more than the cheap one! Ventilation is supposed to be better (I'll let you know when it gets over 100*...as of now, I can't tell the difference)- but all I've noticed so far, is that the "upgrade" seems to let more bugs in.
I gotta remember to stick to my motto: The "best" is usually the minimum necessary to do any particular job without it being a total piece of crap. |
Helmets are a lot like bicycles. If the differences between a $200 bicycle and a $2,000 bicycle aren't important to you than neither will the differences between a $40 helmet and a $400 helmet.
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So what do you want a tuna with good taste, or a tuna that tastes good**********
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Originally Posted by Ferrous Bueller
(Post 15584844)
I love you more.
But they're all road aero helmets. Including the one on Wiggins (it's not a cover - those are illegal). They all aim to reduce air resistance at the cost of ventilation. I introduced the concept as a counterpoint to those of you who seemed to think that more money necessitated better ventilation. Still kind of surprised that nobody watched the Tour last year. I spend lots of money on various things. It just happens that on helmets I recently haven't. |
Originally Posted by IndianaRecRider
(Post 15586889)
Oh, I'm sure I will someday Mr. Beanz. Since right now my ride distances usually average less than 20 miles, I'm not on the bike for hours on end, so I guess a lighter helmet isn't much of a concern for me right now. And besides, although I have nothing to compare it to, I think my new helmet is pretty comfortable.
However, once I can get my distances longer on a more consistent basis and I'm on my bike for 3, 4 or more hours at a time, I may find I need a lighter / better helmet, along with other things to lighten the load, maybe even a lighter bike. :) If reads can comprehend the statements made in the article about the faster helmet, it reinforces what I have been saying the entire time. But the reason you’ll continue to see these aero road helmets is because they are faster. They may not give an edge on a particular day, but they’ll save energy over the course of a three-week race even if used for only one of those weeks. Remember, stage racing is all about energy conservation. |
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