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Old 06-25-13, 06:11 AM
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Will clip pedals n shoes really improve my experience???

So i ordered a pair of Diadora Airspeed Comp and a set of Forte Campus pedals (combo)... they are going on my Cannondale Quick 5 Hybrid. Will it really improve my workout, speed, distance.... I have never tried them before so this will feel foreign to start i guess, they should be here later this week...I am trying to get the most out of cycling i can to get in shape and maybe also get a road bike added to the stable...
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Old 06-25-13, 07:13 AM
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I prefer them for everything but quick trips to the C-store or the hardware store because my feet never slip off of the pedal.
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Old 06-25-13, 07:46 AM
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I depends on how you ride your bike, if you use it as an errand bike around town, I would find them to be a P.I.A. for recreational and fitness rides, I love my crank brother candy pedals, I use them with my cannondale touring shoes and they are great. One advantage of clipless pedals is that you can pull up on the pedal for extra power when you need it. And once you get them adjusted right it keeps you foot in the proper position for optimal power.
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Old 06-25-13, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Notgrownup View Post
So i ordered a pair of Diadora Airspeed Comp and a set of Forte Campus pedals (combo)... they are going on my Cannondale Quick 5 Hybrid. Will it really improve my workout, speed, distance.... I have never tried them before so this will feel foreign to start i guess, they should be here later this week...I am trying to get the most out of cycling i can to get in shape and maybe also get a road bike added to the stable...
Ride and find out for yourself. Some people claim yes, and some claim otherwise. Which camp would you fall under? That is really up to you. Ride and be safe.
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Old 06-25-13, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by tagaproject6 View Post
Ride and find out for yourself. Some people claim yes, and some claim otherwise. Which camp would you fall under? That is really up to you. Ride and be safe.
Excellent answer!
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Old 06-25-13, 08:34 AM
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maybe yes, maybe no......but then again, I might be wrong
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It did improve my experience a lot. My right foot would always go numb after 15-20 kms but with the proper cycling shoe and pedals I don't have the problem anymore. I didn't improve my performances at all but now I can go for long rides without having to stop for a walk every 45 minutes.

But, as others said, that's just me.
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Old 06-25-13, 09:15 AM
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It did for me but you are not me.
Clipless pedals, bib shorts, and my powermeter are the three big things for me over the years.
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Old 06-25-13, 09:28 AM
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Thank you all for the replies, they are on the way so i will find out soon enough... I got the combo , i guess this is what you call them... so i will still be able to use regular shoes...Pretty new to all this Cycling stuff... I have invested enough time and money on the Harley so now it's time for the Harley Pedalson....
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I like being able to pull up and push forward in my pedal stroke. Being attached to the pedal with cleats or toe clips works for me.

On my pure road bikes I use Look Keo pedals and swear by them. For my utility bike I find a half toe clip allows me to use a variety of shoes.


MKS makes these, I think there are polycarb ones available, too.
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I love them and can't imagine riding without them.
For your test ride I would suggest you go to a park or empty parking lot and practice cliping in and out, also set the tension low to start.
Most people fall at the beginning, because they forget they're clipped in. Better to fall on grass than in traffic.
Good luck.
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Old 06-25-13, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Notgrownup View Post
So i ordered a pair of Diadora Airspeed Comp and a set of Forte Campus pedals (combo)... they are going on my Cannondale Quick 5 Hybrid. Will it really improve my workout, speed, distance....
No, no and no. Most people do find them to be more comfortable though. They do allow you to pull up while sprinting or going up steep hills and gain a little power but I suspect you won't be doing this on a Hybrid.
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Old 06-25-13, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by gregf83 View Post
No, no and no. Most people do find them to be more comfortable though. They do allow you to pull up while sprinting or going up steep hills and gain a little power but I suspect you won't be doing this on a Hybrid.
Why not? My first clipless pedals were for a hybrid, that I also toured on.
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Old 06-25-13, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by lucille View Post
Why not? My first clipless pedals were for a hybrid, that I also toured on.
Nothing wrong with clipless on a hybrid. They just won't make you faster or give you a better workout. They're just more comfortable, like bibs.
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Old 06-25-13, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Notgrownup View Post
So i ordered a pair of Diadora Airspeed Comp and a set of Forte Campus pedals (combo)... they are going on my Cannondale Quick 5 Hybrid. Will it really improve my workout, speed, distance.... I have never tried them before so this will feel foreign to start i guess, they should be here later this week...I am trying to get the most out of cycling i can to get in shape and maybe also get a road bike added to the stable...
How you like them will likely be dependent upon how you want to feel about them. I am coming to believe that clips or clipless pedal attachments have little benefit in terms of workout or pedaling efficiency. The limited research I have been able to find on the subject indicates that even professional cyclists do not actually pull up on their pedals as much as they simply reduce/eliminate the downward pressure of the upstroke. For that the mechanics of attachment don't really matter. However, ones beliefs in what works best DO MATTER a great deal.

Of course a lot depends upon the pedal design. If the pedal is one of those small ones that are designed for cleats, they will not work well without them. However, more traditional pedal designs work quite well for normal shoes. If you feel you need the support of cycling shoes, there is a very good likelihood that a decent platform (in the traditional sense) pedal provides as much or more support to the foot, even with sandals or other 'inappropriate' shoes...

The one area where I believe pedal attachment devices have some real effectiveness is on rough terrain where your feet can easily bounce off of a pedal. For good platform pedals that really means things like single track...
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Old 06-25-13, 10:52 AM
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Do hybrid riders ever climb hills? Start from dead stop? Sprint for a light? Ride over sketchy pavement?
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Old 06-25-13, 11:18 AM
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Do hybrid riders ever climb hills? Start from dead stop? Sprint for a light? Ride over sketchy pavement?
I do all of those things on my hybrid, mine is set up a bit more like a flat bar road bike though.
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Originally Posted by dramiscram View Post
It did improve my experience a lot. My right foot would always go numb after 15-20 kms but with the proper cycling shoe and pedals I don't have the problem anymore. I didn't improve my performances at all but now I can go for long rides without having to stop for a walk every 45 minutes.

But, as others said, that's just me.
I would disagree. That is absolutely an improvement in performance.
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Originally Posted by gregf83 View Post
Nothing wrong with clipless on a hybrid. They just won't make you faster or give you a better workout. They're just more comfortable, like bibs.
That's not entirely true, that mostly depends on the person riding the hybrid. I ride mine hard sometimes.
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Originally Posted by bikeguyinvenice View Post
I do all of those things on my hybrid, mine is set up a bit more like a flat bar road bike though.
And so, do you agree that clipless pedals confer a benefit to your riding?
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Old 06-25-13, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by caloso View Post
And so, do you agree that clipless pedals confer a benefit to your riding?
Absolutely, stiff sole riding shoes and clipless pedals are a definite improvement over running shoes on platform pedals, even though my hybrid a heavier steel frame model from the late 90's I can still keep pace with roadies, at least for short periods. The last bike I could do that with without clipless pedals was my faired recumbent.
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Originally Posted by Notgrownup View Post
So i ordered a pair of Diadora Airspeed Comp and a set of Forte Campus pedals (combo)... they are going on my Cannondale Quick 5 Hybrid. Will it really improve my workout, speed, distance.... I have never tried them before so this will feel foreign to start i guess, they should be here later this week...I am trying to get the most out of cycling i can to get in shape and maybe also get a road bike added to the stable...
How you like them will likely be dependent upon how you want to feel about them. I am coming to believe that clips or clipless pedal attachments have little benefit in terms of workout or pedaling efficiency. The limited research I have been able to find on the subject indicates that even professional cyclists do not actually pull up on their pedals as much as they simply reduce/eliminate the downward pressure of the upstroke. For that the mechanics of attachment don't really matter. However, ones beliefs in what works best DO MATTER a great deal.

Of course a lot depends upon the pedal design. If the pedal is one of those small ones that are designed for cleats, they will not work well without them. However, more traditional pedal designs work quite well for normal shoes. If you feel you need the support of cycling shoes, there is a very good likelihood that a decent platform (in the traditional sense) pedal provides as much or more support to the foot, even with sandals or other 'inappropriate' shoes...

The one area where I believe pedal attachment devices have some real effectiveness is on rough terrain where your feet can easily bounce off of a pedal. For good platform pedals that really means things like single track...
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Originally Posted by bikeguyinvenice View Post
Absolutely, stiff sole riding shoes and clipless pedals are a definite improvement over running shoes on platform pedals, even though my hybrid a heavier steel frame model from the late 90's I can still keep pace with roadies, at least for short periods. The last bike I could do that with without clipless pedals was my faired recumbent.
Stiff soles that fit make a significant difference. From all I've seen clipless provides a significant improvement over that IF the rider is trying to work hard. If cruising clipless does not seem to add much above stiff soles, most of the time. For me clipless has also helped a few times under bad road conditions. Not many 3 or 4 total, but all of those possibly helped prevent serious injury.
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Originally Posted by bikeguyinvenice View Post
I do all of those things on my hybrid, mine is set up a bit more like a flat bar road bike though.

I suspect Caloso was just being sarcastic about the "hybrid riders don't climb hills or sprint for lights" comment
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