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Old 02-28-05, 02:54 PM
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Who really makes Scattante bikes?

Besides "Supergo"?

I just bought the new R-660, and it's great, even with the Truvativ crankset, everything else is real Ultegra. The wheels are, I think, actually Neuvations, which are sometimes stickered with other names, too.

I won't love it any less, but I'm sure there's no factory with a Supergo sign out front.

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Or, more likely, someone in Asia?


Just curious.
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I thought it was Weyless on behalf of Supergo?

Hasn't Weyless been around a long time? Weren't they an innovator back in the day?
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US law requires that bikes have a sticker on the frame listing the country of origin. So, if you look all over the frame, you ought to find the country of origin sticker.

So, tell us about your new bike. Have you had a chance to do much riding yet? What bikes were you considering before you decided?

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It said made in taiwan on the head tube, now that you mention it. A sticker that peeled off very easily!

I have only had it on the trainer, since I live in Ohio and the weather has not been great yet. I did do a little spin.

I also immediately replaced the XO saddle with my old Flite. I added the new 105 SPD-SL pedals that I ordered from ProBikeKit for $48--is that the weak dollar at work?

I was looking for a carbon or carbon/alu frame bike, was hoping for U10 or at least 105 components. An amazing deal, so my tax return funded my new ride. I've noticed in the past the SuperGo's prices fluctuate quite frequently, but I got the bike for $1300.

I looked at some of the well-known big name brands and they all wanted about double for a comporable bike. It's not a 1kg frame, of course, but it's still only in the 17lb range total. I can live with that, since I don't race, other than the unofficial races/fast training rides with the club.

In general, it's great, as far as I can tell without doing a 6 hour training ride. I'm not crazy about the inaccessible thumbscrew tilt adjustment on the seatpost, but that's about it for "problems."
I'll fiddle with the fit all Spring, I'm sure.
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I bought my R650 in Oct. and I love it. I have about 1500 miles on it and haven't had a single problem. Ultegra at that pice range is a steal, I liked it even more with 9-spd priced at $950. I hope yours is as good to you as mine has been.
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Old 02-28-05, 09:27 PM
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OK, I'm probably the first person who is not happy with the Scattante. I bought the R650 with Ultegra in April of 04. With less than 200 miles, I noticed a clicking in the middle front ring. After numerous trips back to Supergo, they finally replaced it. At around 400 miles, the 4th ring in the rear developed a clicking after the gear slipped while I was going up hill. I hung up the bike for the winter and brought it back to Supergo last week. They refuse to replace the cassette even though it is suppose to be still under warranty.

I regret getting the Scattante. I wish I went with the Giant OCR1 or the Fuji Roubaix.
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FWIW, the cassette was the only non-Ultegra component. (it's Tiagra) That's the first bad press I've heard on R650, I'm sorry to hear it.
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revcph = in pure luck; Boomer = the average consumer (I agree with him) I would never buy a generic brand name either. That's how most result in (lack of) quality.
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They have to cut corners somewhere to keep the price down. A cheaper Tiagra cassette is only part of it.
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Originally Posted by alanbikehouston
US law requires that bikes have a sticker on the frame listing the country of origin. So, if you look all over the frame, you ought to find the country of origin sticker.

So, tell us about your new bike. Have you had a chance to do much riding yet? What bikes were you considering before you decided?


My Pista has no sticker saying where it was made... and I know it wasn't made in Italy (although the headtube decal says Italy on the Bianchi Logo)
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Originally Posted by Boomer
OK, I'm probably the first person who is not happy with the Scattante. I bought the R650 with Ultegra in April of 04. With less than 200 miles, I noticed a clicking in the middle front ring. After numerous trips back to Supergo, they finally replaced it. At around 400 miles, the 4th ring in the rear developed a clicking after the gear slipped while I was going up hill. I hung up the bike for the winter and brought it back to Supergo last week. They refuse to replace the cassette even though it is suppose to be still under warranty.

I regret getting the Scattante. I wish I went with the Giant OCR1 or the Fuji Roubaix.
I could understand your fustrations if you said the bike has flex, shakes on down hills, rides harsh etc. but come on a freaking cassette! Scattante made the frame not the componets.
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Pacesetter,

I agree. I am not frustrated at Scattante per se. I'm not even made a Shimano. My frustration is with Supergo. When I spend >$1K on a bike, I expect them to make sure the bike functions properly. In general, my experience with Supergo is a C-.
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Old 03-01-05, 02:35 PM
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I can't believe any retailer wouldn't spot you a new cassette, esp when it's under warranty. That deserves at least a C-!
FWIW, on my 660 it's an Ultegra 12-25, since there's no cheapo generics or 105s yet. But it looks like 105 or Tiagra quality, compared to the finish and attention to detail on old 9s Ultegra cassettes. (The new lockring is just stamped, not polished and etched like before.)
I think of Supergo just as a conduit to the goods, which seem pretty good so far. I have no love for gigantic, competition-crushing superstores/chains. I'm sure that makes me a big hypocrite for not supporting my LBS, where I buy everythig else, and have all my serious wrenching done. If I bought my nre ride there I'd have 1 choice and I would've paid more to get a 105/Tiagra bike.
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I bought a Specialized road bike from Bicycle Habitat in NYC last summer and at the time of purchase asked them to swap out the tires for All-condition Armadillos, the sales girl told me that they would charge me $10 labor for that. So I just spent $1,000 there and they want to charge me $10 labor to install different tires on the bike. So I told her I'll change it myself and she told me "Well you have to go outside on the sidewalk and do that", so I spent $1,000 there and she's kicking me out of the store to change my own tires.

I took the bike home and after riding it once the wheels went out of true, took it back, had them true the wheels and after another ride the wheels went out of true again. Anyway, I wrote an email to Charlie, the owner to complain about the bad service and he let me return the bike for a refund.

Some bike shops don't understand customer service until it's too late.





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I can't believe any retailer wouldn't spot you a new cassette, esp when it's under warranty. That deserves at least a C-!
FWIW, on my 660 it's an Ultegra 12-25, since there's no cheapo generics or 105s yet. But it looks like 105 or Tiagra quality, compared to the finish and attention to detail on old 9s Ultegra cassettes. (The new lockring is just stamped, not polished and etched like before.)
I think of Supergo just as a conduit to the goods, which seem pretty good so far. I have no love for gigantic, competition-crushing superstores/chains. I'm sure that makes me a big hypocrite for not supporting my LBS, where I buy everythig else, and have all my serious wrenching done. If I bought my nre ride there I'd have 1 choice and I would've paid more to get a 105/Tiagra bike.
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Originally Posted by revcph
Besides "Supergo"?

I just bought the new R-660, and it's great, even with the Truvativ crankset, everything else is real Ultegra. The wheels are, I think, actually Neuvations, which are sometimes stickered with other names, too.

I won't love it any less, but I'm sure there's no factory with a Supergo sign out front.

Leader?
Or, more likely, someone in Asia?


Just curious.
From what I understand your frame is made in Taiwan, which has become a bicycle parts manufacturing powerhouse. Just stating that a part is made there says nothing of the quality, as the quality can range from abysmal to excellent, sometimes within the same manufacturer. To complicate issues further, most of the manufacturers names are not what we see on the parts; many of the companies are OEM suppliers whose products are sold under many names. You may recognize Giant, which has made a name for itself, but you are less likely to know the likes of the framebuilders Merida (aka Specialized), Martec, Kinesis, etc. etc.

It seems that some US (or maybe they are based elsewhere) company specializes in buying up the US rights to defunct but formerly well known brands (e.g. Motobecane, Mercier, Dawes) and has some very well priced bikes made in Taiwan (or possibly China). The only thing that bugs me about this is the fact that they are able to ride on the reputation built up by someone else in the past while selling products totally unrelated to the original.

Maybe a Supergo insider would know who makes the Scattante?

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Originally Posted by Boomer
Pacesetter,

I agree. I am not frustrated at Scattante per se. I'm not even made a Shimano. My frustration is with Supergo. When I spend >$1K on a bike, I expect them to make sure the bike functions properly. In general, my experience with Supergo is a C-.

Oh ok that makes sense. try a differant Supergo, theres a jackass working at that one.
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The Scattante CFR is the same as the EPX 303, not sure if EPX actually makes them? Doesn't help with the aluminum frames either...

I had a Scattante 550 and no real complaints. The rear derailleur hanger came bent, which is a common problem. But for the price, you can't beat it. The frame is *very* stiff, not too much fun for longer rides but a blast on hills.
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I have the EPX 303 which I purchased back in 2002, EPX claims to have "over 25 years experience working with carbon fiber technology". They also specialize in parts for aerospace and automotive technology.

I purchased mine from Supergo as well. I ordered online, as I live on the East Coast and most of their stores seem to be located on the West Coast). I usually support my local bike shop, but the most I could afford there is aluminum frame with Shimano Sora at that price. (My lbs guy gets most of my business).

The only other EPX I have seen on the road was a Tera Shark TT bike which was actually purchased in Austrailia. It did not request special shipping bucause of my $$ limit. (I got the cf with 105 components for $950). It came via UPS ground and either the box was dropped in shipping or something heavy was stacked on it, because a portion of the box was re-taped. I looked at everything inside, an all looked fine except for a scrape on the rear deraileur. (deraileur is working fine).

I took it to my lbs for assembly and paid for a fitting. Turns out they coulld not adjust my rear brakes because the rear wheel (Mavic Cosomos) was damaged in shipping. Obviously something heavy enough to "pinch" the bead on my rear tire was stacked or dropped on it.

I contacted Supergo and they sent me an RMA # and another wheel promptly. Problem was they sent me a Mavic CXP-22 with Tiagra hub. (iagra is not even close in quality to the sealed Cosmos hub. I called them and complained. They said they no longer stocked the Cosmos (common problem with Supergo. They short-stock inventory). I decided to keep the CXP as beater wheel and had my lbs rebuild the Cosoms hub with a new rim. i(I later found a used matching front wheel with 105 hub in a lbs for $50) No problems since. Both wheels are fine. That's the story with Supergo. They seem to stock up on items with limited availabilty and sell at a great price. You get a good price, but if you have a problem, or need a replacement, chances are, it is out of stock.

I don't know if EPX makes Scatate frames or not. If Scitate's are made in Taiwan, they are not made by EPX, who manufactures all their frames in Austrailia (See epxbike.com). I have seen people look suspiciously at "non-branded" carbon frames, but have not seem many complaints about Scatante. Granted there are always complaints, but no frame is ideal for everyone. Mine is ideal for me. That's all that matters.

I recall one year doing the NYC 5 Boro Bike Ride. That year Bianchi released a line of more affordable bikes. That year, it seems lilke "everybody and his baby brother" had a Celeste Green Bianchi. In a world where everyone rides a Trek or a Giant, it is refreshing to have something different that I can afford. I could never afford a Colnago, Serotta, or SoftRide, so this is "As good as it gets" for me.

BTW SRF. I have riden two multi-day events on my EPX 303 frame. I was very comfortable. Generally carbon frames are very comfortable. They absorb road shock and perform well. Maybe you should check the bike fit. Or maybe you just prefer a different type of frame.

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I purchased a 2004 CFR from SuperGo about a year ago. I have been very happy with it, but since it is a mail order bike, the fit is not perfect. I had to purchase another stem to shorten my reach. The bike was shipped from their NC warehouse via FedEx Ground. The Shimano label on the front rim was scratched, because it was rubbing againist the crank during shipping. Aside from the label, there's not a single dent or scratch. On the shipping box, there is a Pacific Cycle (www.pacific-cycle.com) shipping label on the box, it even have the Taiwan address on the label, so I know it is made by Pacific Cycle.

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They also do some of their mountain stuff.
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SCATTANTE bike anyone know how much mine is worth approx. Used I want to sell

Hi there,

I want to sell this as it was given to me but have no clue how much it's worth. I think the bike is about 2 years old maybe 3.

Here is a link to some photos of the bike
http://gallery.me.com/gregh1111/100010
SCATTANTE ROAD BIKE 57cm XLR Frame Aluminum

Any help would be appreciated. I was putting it up for 550 on craigslist. Anyone know the worth?
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A sub contracting company on Taiwan , there are big factorys filling build contracts for many brands ,
imported and distributed to what ever country contracted the work out..

really a bike is a frame and a bunch of parts installed on it .. each at various parts price points.

Order enough units and your name can be painted on the lot.

trying hard to not make Scatological Humour.

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