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Felt bad for distrusting someone (re: bike theft) at mup today. What would you do?

Old 06-03-14, 05:50 PM
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Felt bad for distrusting someone (re: bike theft) at mup today. What would you do?

I drove to big park along a river with 20+ miles of paved mup and fishing at lunch today, bike in trunk, front wheel off. I parked way off in the "back" of a lot, farthest from the park but like 10 feet from a main road where I think my car is safest. There was a tundra 30 feet away not occupied. I get my bike out front wheel on, brakes connected and a guy comes up from nowhere, points at the tundra and says hey I left my lights on could you give me a jump real quick before you ride? I said sure but then my thoughts went bad real quick.

I hadn't seen anyone at the tundra while I was gathering stuff in my car to take with me and putting my wheel on. (but he could have been walking around looking for someone to give him a jump) I wonder if this is some sort of con to get me to lay the bike down while I move the car, he grabs it throws it in truck and leaves. Or its not even his truck, he's just pointing at it, he jumps on bike and rides off.

Or he's a completely good guy and someone else could grab the bike, ride off while I'm distracted.

I put the bike back in trunk front wheel on and hanging out so at least it was in the vehicle I was in control of and just felt the whole time like I'm a something's rear-end and he's thinking while he's popping the hood and getting cables out "ahh he thinks I look like a thief".

This is only a $200 bike, I wonder how paranoid I'll get when I have a $600 one a few weeks from now.

Although...he did wait a suspiciously short time to try and start the truck up after the cables were connected. Like 10 seconds. And it fired right up.
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Old 06-03-14, 06:49 PM
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as you describe it, i wouldn't feel too bad, it was worth being cautious and he probably didn't even notice you putting the bike back in the trunk. was probably just happy to get a jump. i know i would be...
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Old 06-03-14, 06:53 PM
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Sometimes with a jump it can be a struggle to get the dead car started. Other times you barely have to connect the terminals and it'll go.
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Crime affects more than actual victims of crimes.... crime alters the way we all think and act.

I have no idea how many people have reminded me about the dangers of the MUPs. Beatings, robberies, and ****s are regularly rumored and reported on local bicycle paths. I am an old retired guy and even my aged mother... from time-to-time.. reminds me of the dangers on the bicycle paths.

Hey... you gave a stranger a hand.. and GOOD for you! He had probably been shooed away by everyone else in the park before he saw you. Don't feel bad... you did good.

I rarely let my bicycle out of my sight. And when I do... I use a cheapie little cable lock to discourage the opportunist. The more time you spend in these "new places" the more comfortable you will feel with what to expect.
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From my years of experience. 99% of the time there will be no problem. But the minute you drop your guard you can be a victim. Yesterday. A 50 mile round trip ride down into Fairmont Park in Philadelphia. A stop at Lloyd hall for the rest rooms and then a light lunch at a small lunch room on the side of the building. I went to the rest room first. Leaving my 73 year old wife watching our two bikes parked under a tree with benches. When I came out of the rest room she had a death grip on both bikes. About 10 feet from her was a guy about 6 foot tall with a short beefy girl friend siting 3 benches away. When I first went into the rest room the woman got on her cell phone. I thought nothing of it. While I was in the rest room the guy showed up and stood about 5 feet from my wife. Looking at her. Then the bikes. Then swiveling his head around looking around the surrounding area. Wife went into panic mode. Both our bikes have racks and big bags for shopping. Look like long haul tourist bikes. My wife figured it would be a grab and run thing. We had been targeted before at the same place a few years back. When I came out of the rest room the guy walked away from my wife and over to the girl. Both did not take their eyes off us or the bikes. And Lloyd Hall is noted for bike thefts. I pulled up the bottom of my cycling jersey and tucked it behind the holstered Colt on my hip. Suddenly they figured they would go elsewhere. I live in the "inner city" part of my home time. I know the script on how the grab and run deals work. Usually I lock the two bikes together if we are not both going to be with them. But the ride down into Philly was so pleasant I let my guard down yesterday.
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No need to feel guilty. It pays to cover yourself, even when helping someone. That IMO has always been the case.
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Felt bad for distrusting someone (re: bike theft) at mup today. What would you do?

You helped a stranger, and took good care of your bike. It's all good!
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You helped a stranger, and took good care of your bike. It's all good!
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Originally Posted by John Redcorn View Post
I drove to big park along a river with 20+ miles of paved mup and fishing at lunch today, bike in trunk, front wheel off. I parked way off in the "back" of a lot, farthest from the park but like 10 feet from a main road where I think my car is safest. There was a tundra 30 feet away not occupied. I get my bike out front wheel on, brakes connected and a guy comes up from nowhere, points at the tundra and says hey I left my lights on could you give me a jump real quick before you ride? I said sure but then my thoughts went bad real quick.

I hadn't seen anyone at the tundra while I was gathering stuff in my car to take with me and putting my wheel on. (but he could have been walking around looking for someone to give him a jump) I wonder if this is some sort of con to get me to lay the bike down while I move the car, he grabs it throws it in truck and leaves. Or its not even his truck, he's just pointing at it, he jumps on bike and rides off.

Or he's a completely good guy and someone else could grab the bike, ride off while I'm distracted.

I put the bike back in trunk front wheel on and hanging out so at least it was in the vehicle I was in control of and just felt the whole time like I'm a something's rear-end and he's thinking while he's popping the hood and getting cables out "ahh he thinks I look like a thief".

This is only a $200 bike, I wonder how paranoid I'll get when I have a $600 one a few weeks from now.

Although...he did wait a suspiciously short time to try and start the truck up after the cables were connected. Like 10 seconds. And it fired right up.
Trust your gut. Sometimes, it can be the only thing that can keep you out of harm's way when there really is a problem with someone. I have no problems whatsoever to be suspicious of every person that comes up to me out of the blue. I carry mace on every ride. My brother gave me a taser for my birthday. It was the best gift ever. I can't afford to let my guard down just to be polite. Like it or not, we're living in a world where bad things happen to good people.

Good for you to help the guy, but good for you to think of yourself as well.

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Old 06-04-14, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by John Redcorn View Post
I put the bike back in trunk front wheel on and hanging out so at least it was in the vehicle I was in control of and just felt the whole time like I'm a something's rear-end and he's thinking while he's popping the hood and getting cables out "ahh he thinks I look like a thief".
I'm not sure why this concerns you. He was not in any position to be picky.

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Although...he did wait a suspiciously short time to try and start the truck up after the cables were connected. Like 10 seconds. And it fired right up.
You don't often have to really wait at all. You aren't charging his battery; he's using yours to start.
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Old 06-04-14, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by njkayaker View Post
You don't often have to really wait at all. You aren't charging his battery; he's using yours to start.
It depends. When using some rather skinny jumper cables I've had the car fail to start when first connected. But waiting a minute let enough charge flow into the dead battery to get it to start. With a good set of cables it shouldn't be necessary.
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Old 06-04-14, 08:55 AM
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It depends. When using some rather skinny jumper cables I've had the car fail to start when first connected. But waiting a minute let enough charge flow into the dead battery to get it to start. With a good set of cables it shouldn't be necessary.
"Depends" is a reasonable answer. What I'm getting at is that what the person did wasn't unusual or suspicious.
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What I don't get is why something so trivial is troubling you and dominating your thoughts.
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