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Old 06-13-14, 06:37 AM
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Tubular tyres: training or racing

Hi all,

I've been riding tubular rims for about two years now on various vintage builds. I've had a variety of tyres including gators, continental giro, vittoria rally, vittoria evo...

Could someone tell me what the difference is between a training tyre and a race tyre? Are training tyres more puncture resistant? And for me, average cyclist, few long rides etc. which is a better option? I expect to pay about no more than 40 for a tyre.

Thanks!
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Training Tubs are cheaper .. you have to read the specs as to whether they include a Kevlar belt in the tread..

Common, back in the day, was to buy the cheap tires by the dozen, then once down to the last couple ,

spend a day opening the casing, patching tubes and stitching them back together .


If I were you , I'd save the Tubs , get nice ones, for racing, and train on a set of clincher wheels
for their easier puncture mending , on the road.

after Inflation and VAT, over there, by now, I expect the cheap tubs are 40 each.

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Originally Posted by Chromeracer View Post
Hi all,

I've been riding tubular rims for about two years now on various vintage builds. I've had a variety of tyres including gators, continental giro, vittoria rally, vittoria evo...

Could someone tell me what the difference is between a training tyre and a race tyre? Are training tyres more puncture resistant? And for me, average cyclist, few long rides etc. which is a better option? I expect to pay about no more than 40 for a tyre.

Thanks!
For road, racing tubulars typically weigh maybe 230 grams each plus/minus maybe 15% - the numbers are approximate because this is not a matter of national standards. Training tubulars are heavier due to thicker rubber and possibly thicker casings - 250 to 300 grams? Training tubulars are supposed to last longer than race tires. I'm not sure flat resistance was part of the original strategy. But in modern times a Kevlar layer can be had on nearly any tire with a minimal weight penalty, and a flat tire is a major inconvenience (at least) in a race, in training, or riding errands. Race tires will feel more tubularly, giving more of that unique feel that tubulars have.
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Old 06-14-14, 06:26 PM
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Clinchers have replaced tubulars in all but special applications.

There is no need for tubulars when very good quality clinchers are commonly available.
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There may be no need for tubular but I ride vintage bikes. The same could be said about them but I would never have a modern frame. Thanks to everyone for the info.
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Thanks, this is exactly what I was after!
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